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Post by jno on Feb 17, 2015 16:11:24 GMT
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Post by jno on Feb 18, 2015 4:45:51 GMT
Undoubtedly my favourite Minder episode ever - I have seen it many times and the dialogue still tickles me everytime!
The dialogue and characters in this one are superb from start to finish - Rycott and Jones on top form throughout, Arthur down on his luck and desperate not to get nicked, Terry shafted by everyone for being the nice guy. Justin playing the wide boy to perfection. Self Inflicted Sid - undoubtedly the best other character to grace a Minder episode.
There are so many funny lines in this one but my favourite has to be 'Strong smell of petrol around here?' from Jones - knowing he was inebriated on set and this line is a rerecording makes this sound even funnier than it is. Other top lines: "It's on top! It's on top!", "put my boat on offer", "I'm one of your own" - truly great and hilarious from start to finish.
Rycott is superb in this one and for me this episode is proof that he is any match for Chisholm.
If Tony Hoare based this on a true story somewhere there must be some pretty silly criminals out there! In this one it is clear that the ridicule of old bill is very high on his agenda!
Overall 10/10 - Love it!
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Post by Kevin Dean on Jun 22, 2015 18:14:13 GMT
Dave calls Terry Charlie??!! In the Winchester Terry has a pop at Arthur and Dave pulls Terry back and says 'Steady on Charlie, he's not getting any younger'. Charlie is the character played by Roy Kinnear, who is also in the scene. Surley I am not the first to notice this?
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Post by jno on Jun 23, 2015 8:53:14 GMT
Dave calls Terry Charlie??!! In the Winchester Terry has a pop at Arthur and Dave pulls Terry back and says 'Steady on Charlie, he's not getting any younger'. Charlie is the character played by Roy Kinnear, who is also in the scene. Surley I am not the first to notice this? Have another listen, I think he says "Steady on Tel".
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Post by Kevin Dean on Jun 24, 2015 23:06:33 GMT
Yep, having a return visit to that scene you are right. Having said that if you expect 'Charlie' it does sound like that! But then again if you expect 'Tel' you hear that too. Odd! Bit like seeing two different faces in one of those picture things.
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Post by backhander on Jul 29, 2015 12:27:12 GMT
It's the first time I've seen Tel get blown out by a lady in this episode, he crashed & burned in the launderette!
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Post by mike73 on Aug 9, 2015 10:34:14 GMT
It's a great ep but it feels strange because Self Inflicted Sid also plays a character in Waiting For Goddard. When shown on ITV4 it's the next ep but originaly there would of been a years difference between episodes. God bless George I love him like my own dad.
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Post by I used to think I was a parrot on Mar 4, 2016 18:07:43 GMT
I love the bit where they think of burning the truck and wonder who they could get to do it. Cut to the next scene with Arthur with a big grin approaching Sid in the Winchester "Sidney........!"
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Post by yoyopickles on Mar 5, 2016 10:13:00 GMT
I remember when this was shown originally, I was just turned 13 and was allowed to stay up to watch all of it, as I was the school Christmas holidays. My mum and step dad had just had a terrible argument and the atmosphere indoors was a bot tense to say the least, when Rycott fell, I wet myself laughing and they just glared at me!
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Post by VAT on Aug 19, 2016 13:30:25 GMT
Looks like Arthur wasn't the first! The Sweeney boys got there first...(having poor old Roy flat on his back in the motor)!
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Post by pr1 on Aug 22, 2016 2:22:58 GMT
Absolutely wonderful episode that gets Series Seven off to a great start. I did think the climax was a bit weak because the people looking at the accident seem more like they are watching the filming of an episode of Minder rather than the the result of a traffic accident. Justin's plan is clever though.
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Post by mybodyguard on Aug 29, 2016 22:40:52 GMT
Is there any particular reason why Arthur buys Terry a drink in the beginning scene at the Winchester? It's almost like he owed Terry for something.
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Post by jno on Aug 30, 2016 2:56:30 GMT
Is there any particular reason why Arthur buys Terry a drink in the beginning scene at the Winchester? It's almost like he owed Terry for something. I believe this is inferred poverty across the board i.e. if Arthur is down on his luck, Terry's got nothing on either, but however desperate things have become, the boss always has a little more disposable wedge in his pocket. So what do all good bosses have to do? Keep their employees sweet by offering them an incentive and in Terry's case that's in the form of an emergency Light Ale.
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Post by mybodyguard on Aug 30, 2016 9:44:11 GMT
Times must have been rough, as Arthur is driving that dodgy Ford Granada! Oh, and he later tells Terry he's fired!
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Post by syrupapplesnpears on Nov 6, 2016 19:07:37 GMT
"Summink's not right". "Right". "What's not right?" Self-Inflicted, Jones with an 80s haircut, "He looks like a BUPA salesman's worst nightmare", Arfur's hard-times Granada, "Titter and mock, titter and mock...". Oh no, I've reached the final series! Remember the TV Times cover - "They're back!" - and thinking they should have copied the Radio Times Morecambe & Wise cover and photographed them from behind.
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Post by jno on Nov 9, 2016 4:22:59 GMT
"Summink's not right". "Right". "What's not right?" Self-Inflicted, Jones with an 80s haircut, "He looks like a BUPA salesman's worst nightmare", Arfur's hard-times Granada, "Titter and mock, titter and mock...". Oh no, I've reached the final series! Remember the TV Times cover - "They're back!" - and thinking they should have copied the Radio Times Morecambe & Wise cover and photographed them from behind. Still good though, innit?
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Post by syrupapplesnpears on Nov 12, 2016 18:34:07 GMT
It's ALL good
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Post by daytona355 on Nov 13, 2016 8:52:53 GMT
Arthur's cowardice in this episode makes the humour, such a laugh having him on the one hand, playing the old villians codes with self inflicted, we look after our own etc like he's reggie Kray, the next he's on the floor, under a sack shouting 'it's come on top, it's come on top' and demanding every man for himself so he can escape! Awesome writing!
Rycott lighting the petrol himself was brilliant too, and jones, you just feel he knew, and being mischievous and an Arthur fanboy at heart, let him do it anyway
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Post by syrupapplesnpears on Nov 19, 2016 21:56:38 GMT
One of the things about the series I like - Jones' little complicit glances and looks of sympathy as if he's almost apologetic for Charlie's ("Albert!") behaviour. I always felt sorry for 'Taff', not just because he was lumbered with Chisholm - and all the Welsh jokes - but his 'nose' and style of policing always seemed more instinctive and successful than Chisholm's. "Jones.........."
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Post by Zimbo on Aug 17, 2017 21:59:45 GMT
Great episode. Ronald Fraser was brilliant as Self Inflicted Sid. The Jones Rycott rivalry is good here, though the jury's out whether Jones' (quick) promotion was the correct thing to do. His new DC was very unmemorable though. Rycott's fall was brilliantly done. Justin(e) was also in fine form here. Great guest cast here, Roy Kinnear looked very large. Ken Farrington had a 20 year on-off role in Coronation Street as Billy Walker.
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Post by pr1 on Sept 4, 2018 0:39:33 GMT
Is there any particular reason why Arthur buys Terry a drink in the beginning scene at the Winchester? It's almost like he owed Terry for something. It seems to me that by this point in the series, Arthur owes Terry quite a few drinks for various reasons.
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Post by pr1 on Sept 9, 2018 16:48:06 GMT
I thought I enjoyed this episode the first time. I just watched it again and enjoyed it even more this time! A wonderful episode from start to finish. I like the parts with Arthur and Justin. My only, minor, quibble is still the crowd that gathers at the end is obviously watching a TV show being filmed.
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Post by westldner on Dec 10, 2018 9:47:18 GMT
The episode had a slow start in my opinion, I mean the first 30 minutes but I think that was simply getting all the characters out of the way considering Chisholm isn't in this. The final 20 minutes were great and really picks up and how the fire towards the episode got started made me laugh.
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Post by thewoodster on Jan 7, 2019 0:23:39 GMT
As westlnder states a slow starter, but as it progresses it becomes a worthy watch.
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Post by denzel on Jul 28, 2019 22:10:06 GMT
Undoubtedly my favourite Minder episode ever - I have seen it many times and the dialogue still tickles me everytime! If Tony Hoare based this on a true story somewhere there must be some pretty silly criminals out there! Wow, gotta say that's interesting, hearing your praise, there. It's always been a great one for me, though I don't know how far above my other favorites I'd put it, even within this seventh series. Some points I noted watching this time round: - I wouldn't say it started terribly slow (this is no Second Time Round..), though it did feel as if they were almost trying to find a way to ease their way into the new series. Especially with what they were trying to do with Jones, who is the first shown to have met Sid.
- Tel's gags in the ninth minute...can't be easy to adjust, as a senior citizen...keep it up..bet that's something else you're having trouble with..
and then when Arthur claims the new DC won't learn much about the criminal classes here...not many All great lines, and in plenty, as jno said. - On paper, I'd think having a Terry McCann vs. Phil Mitchell punchup should have been great..as it was, Mcfadden's character merely punches Tel in the back when he's distracted..so..it was what it was
- Self Inflicted, seems to me to be a bit more of a sympathetic character than, say, Incapable. Still, if he was indeed based on a real case..the things some people would do.
- What can one say about Roy Kinnear...he's always been such a joy to watch..he was really great, as fat Charlie here.
- During the entire scene in the Winch, with Tel's liberty being discussed, a chap called Harry is present..and even ends up driving the van..must be one of their own, to be sure.
- The presence of the two pair of cops reminded me of Around The Corner, with only Cheerful Charlie Chisholm (whose name is Albert) missing.
- The DC MacDonald character is not just forgettable..this time round, I thought he came off as being a bit too, like, sanctamonius.
- and lastly, would say that the young mother, Claire Toeman I believe, wasn't half bad. Wondered how well Justin knew her.
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Post by Twin2 on Dec 6, 2019 7:03:02 GMT
Watched this yesterday on ITV4 as it is one of my favourites and never fails to make me laugh out loud several times.
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Post by jjmolloy on Dec 6, 2019 16:06:15 GMT
One of the very very best episodes, it really is a tribute to the writers and cast that 10 years down the line they could produce such high quality, no treading water here at all.
It's played as comic but it's a poignant scene in the launderette where Terry realises he's not the same bird bandit as in the old days, with younger ladies anyway. Terry's reaction at the very end of the scene where he goes to say something then stops is where Terry realises this too.
It's a mark of DW's quality as an actor here I think. He really is seriously underrated (not by us though) I'm sure he could have been Sir Dennis if he had taken a different path, but then we wouldn't have had all those years of Minder probably.
11/10 (mine goes up to 11)
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Post by Twin2 on Dec 6, 2019 19:01:36 GMT
One of the very very best episodes, it really is a tribute to the writers and cast that 10 years down the line they could produce such high quality, no treading water here at all. It's played as comic but it's a poignant scene in the launderette where Terry realises he's not the same bird bandit as in the old days, with younger ladies anyway. Terry's reaction at the very end of the scene where he goes to say something then stops is where Terry realises this too.It's a mark of DW's quality as an actor here I think. He really is seriously underrated (not by us though) I'm sure he could have been Sir Dennis if he had taken a different path, but then we wouldn't have had all those years of Minder probably. 11/10 (mine goes up to 11) Agree 100%, we the viewer could see the exact moment when Terry realised this and I felt quite sorry for him.
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Post by baz171075 on Dec 7, 2019 18:16:13 GMT
A great episode, amazing how after 10 years the show was still as strong, but in a different way,it is a pity Dennis finished up, because I would have loved to see the show go down the more comedic route, as the writing and acting was such top notch that they could have pulled it off.......
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Post by jno on Dec 9, 2019 15:53:20 GMT
Justin saying "You make sure you give that cab a good dousing" Self-Inflicted saying "Don't worry about my bottle Tel, you can rely on my, I'm one of your own in'I?" There are so many great lines in this episode, pretty much every one is a classic.
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