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Post by McCann on Feb 13, 2018 1:30:58 GMT
Have to chaulk this one down as average. Due to the shortcomings already mentionned. Also the morning scene in the Winchester with Dave, Morrie, Tel and Arthur has so many coincidences to wrap up the story it is scarcely believable. The heavies employed to put the frighteners on Arthur turn to jelly far too easily once Terry has given them a quick slap outside the Winchester. These few things are that bit over the top to knock this one back, in the middle of the strongest Minder series.
Good cast though.
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Post by barrythebook on Feb 13, 2018 20:00:51 GMT
I think Rowans' 'heavies' were meant to be unconvincing tbh.
They'd met Rowan in prison and were looking to make, what they thought would be, some easy money when they got out.
Fronting Arthur a couple of times and talking the talk was one thing but coming up against a seasoned fighter like Terry soon gave them a taste of reality.
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 13, 2018 20:36:09 GMT
It isn't one of the best made episodes barrythebook, but thankfully many better (a lot better) in this series.
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Post by jimreaper on Feb 26, 2018 16:19:26 GMT
Brilliant seeing the superb Chris Ellison in this episode. Everyone starts somewhere, it was a small part but welcome nevertheless.
On to become Burnside in The Bill and the main reason for me watching it. Still as menacing at 71 as he was but disappointed to read that he feels The Bill just about ended his career.
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 26, 2018 20:29:35 GMT
Yes Chris Ellison was good in Minder and as you stated jimreaper he went on to a have a prosperous career with ITV.
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Post by jimreaper on Feb 27, 2018 0:00:50 GMT
I am enthralled with Arthur's style of running, shown when Terry found he had an apparent heart issue!
I have seen that run many times with one leg seemingly going "low" in some steps and always with a straight back.
Perfection, and so natural. Genius without effort.
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Post by jimreaper on Feb 27, 2018 0:05:49 GMT
Yes Chris Ellison was good in Minder and as you stated jimreaper he went on to a have a prosperous career with ITV. Yes woodster and much more of a cockney accent in the Bill than in real life and I believe he did simple voiceovers which IMO was such a waste of his talents. |
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Post by jimreaper on Feb 27, 2018 0:13:54 GMT
Annabel Leventon was looking very nice as Mrs Standen. She had that certain something didnt she. Glad it wasnt just me that thought so  No, and me. She had something about her..... |
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Post by westldner on Apr 13, 2018 23:33:42 GMT
"You're 18 now, you can drink, watch porno and join the army and kill someone" then the following line after that, which makes the scene even more great.
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Post by jno on Jul 24, 2018 4:08:17 GMT
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Post by ace5150 on Sept 15, 2018 19:52:55 GMT
Watched this today, at first I thought it was George Carter when I saw Dennis in his raincoat Mac! This episode was bang average compared to others in series 3.
I laughed at Rowens heavies wanting to "pull his ears off" line when Arthur hadn't got the message regarding calling Terry off the job.
Terrys "handbags" altercation was poor considering John helped him by stamping his foot on one of the blokes was comical. Oh, and showing John the basics in boxing was a laugh being off balance with his stance.
No fault of the actor who played John, but it looked like the casting agent went on to cast adults in school uniforms in the later TV show In-Betweeners.
Once again, an anticipated punch up with some muscle, in this case Charlie, came to nothing once he'd recognised Terry from a prior boxing match. Disappointing.
Gareth Hunt saved this episode for me.
Overall, 6/10 and I think that's fair.
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Post by denzel on Jan 16, 2019 21:25:10 GMT
As has been pointed out, this falls in a very strong series of Minder, and may not be the best of them, but with some fine supporting roles joining George, Dennis and Glynn, it's a very memorable, and re-watchable episode. Loved Annabel Leventon in this, she certainly had something....spunk, maybe, if that scene where she confronts Ted is any indication  Bobbie Brown was fine, too... Don't believe it's been mentioned yet, but credit to the actor playing Rowan, Gary Waldhorn...did well, just as the others did. I liked how Alex offered to at least by a round of drinks in the end..and that classic, hilarious moment when Arthur says, "I'd just like to say, these few words", to which Terry adds, "the drinks are on me", earning himself an easy freebie, or two...awesome |
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Post by yoyopickles on Jan 28, 2019 18:06:17 GMT
Actually I think it was BBC2 that is went out on. Might be wrong. I think what your are referring to Swainy was on BBC2 and was presented by Shaw Taylor? I'm sure I taped this and may even still have this as Shoestring was on it. I remember C4 had a similar thing on Saturday night in the 90s also and I remember the Sweeney being on it, the one with the character Popeye in it. The early 1990s Channel 4 nostalgia show was called t.v heaven, which was presented by frank muir, it ran in Saturday nights in spring 1992 for 13 episodes. |
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Post by logie on Jan 29, 2020 7:42:40 GMT
I enjoyed this one last night; much better than i remembered it, with some crackling dialogue and Arthur E. Daley stealing the show as John's accountant. I also liked how the relationship between Terry & John developed, from annoyance on both their parts at the assigned job, blossoming into mutual respect and then friendship as Terry taught him the basics about looking after himself, and then their night out together in the Winchester ending with John utilising what he'd learnt to assist in seeing off the 2 (i hesitate to use the word) 'heavies'.
Nice ending too as everyone comes together to toast bringing down the very unpleasant (though superbly played) Ted Standen.
Very strong supporting cast in this one too with familiar faces Gareth Hunt, Annabel Leventon, Gary Waldhorn and Alfie Bass (& even a young Chris Ellison) all showing up well.
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Post by logie on Jan 29, 2020 7:47:57 GMT
Great episode this - has one of my all time fave Arthur lines...when he threatens to look into Ted's so called Trust Fund for his son..."all we'll find is a couple of old buttons and a dead rat" Love this line and use it myself to this day Also memorable when Standen claims "This is daylight robbery!" "Yes, well, you'd know a lot more about that than we would, Mr. Standen"  |
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Post by pr1 on Apr 27, 2020 20:14:38 GMT
Sov = £1 Jacks = £5 Cockle = £10 Score = £20 Pony = £25 Century = £100 Monkey = £500 Grand = £1000 There is no term for £50? |
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Post by barrythebook on Apr 27, 2020 21:36:07 GMT
Sov = £1 Jacks = £5 Cockle = £10 Score = £20 Pony = £25 Century = £100 Monkey = £500 Grand = £1000 There is no term for £50? Not that I'm aware of, which i find strange seeing that we have a £50 note. |
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Post by pr1 on Apr 27, 2020 22:19:52 GMT
With or without a £50 note it seems like an odd omission. I suppose Half a Century could work.
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Post by swainy on Apr 28, 2020 2:50:56 GMT
Bullseye is the term for £50 or a Nifty.
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Post by steve74 on Apr 28, 2020 19:07:11 GMT
Another great episode this. Love Arthur's warning to Terry - "I'm serious Terry, I'm using my serious voice". The last 15 minutes are pure joy as Arthur acts as John's financial adviser, managing to get the money owed from Standen and then all back to the Winchester for a few drinks - what could be better. 4 out of 5.
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Post by barrythebook on Apr 28, 2020 19:52:23 GMT
Another great episode this. all back to the Winchester for a few drinks What a great scene that is . I think you'd be hard pressed to find an actor that can do 'drunk' as well as George Cole could carry it off. The part where he splutters out his cigar smoke and changes his expression to one of innocent disbelief "WONT WORK!" Genius. |
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Post by steve74 on Apr 30, 2020 23:04:36 GMT
I think you'd be hard pressed to find an actor that can do 'drunk' as well as George Cole could carry it off. Totally agree with you. Just watched Senior Citizen Caine and Arthur leaving Jock's club is a masterclass in how to act drunk. |
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Post by barrythebook on May 1, 2020 18:40:49 GMT
I think you'd be hard pressed to find an actor that can do 'drunk' as well as George Cole could carry it off. Totally agree with you. Just watched Senior Citizen Caine and Arthur leaving Jock's club is a masterclass in how to act drunk. What a brilliant scene - I never tire of it  |
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Post by jno on May 2, 2020 8:11:14 GMT
Off topic of the episode, but I'm sure GC acquired, perfected and mastered this drunk acting skill from his films of the 50s and 60s - there you see him doing all of these 'Arthurisms' as different characters, albeit in small doses across different characters. I keep harping on about it, but the seldom seen 'Mr Potts Goes To Moscow' is the perfect example of this and definitely one early GC film that fans of Minder will enjoy. minder.proboards.com/thread/3947/george-cole-secret-potts-moscow |
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Post by McCann on Jun 15, 2020 0:24:38 GMT
This videotape shows the final frame of this episode, followed by a brief ad flogging the theme music as broadcast on 3/3/1982, and intro into News at Ten.
Midweek sport special featured the European football, this was the season Villa won the European Cup.
The channel is worth a browse, for rare early videotape recording of ad breaks and continuity (such as original broadcasts of the World at War in 1974).
It has a long interview with Verity Lambert that I haven't got around to listening to. May be of interest to the Dr. Who fans
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Post by BMW on Jun 22, 2020 13:26:54 GMT
Another great episode this. all back to the Winchester for a few drinks What a great scene that is . I think you'd be hard pressed to find an actor that can do 'drunk' as well as George Cole could carry it off. The part where he splutters out his cigar smoke and changes his expression to one of innocent disbelief "WONT WORK!" Genius. I love the bit where he’s exaggerating his confrontation with Standen, and describes him as a ‘n-nondescript squickpeep”. Also I think the concept of a Chippendale record player is up there with fire damaged woks and flood damaged umbrellas in the lock up of dodgy gear that Arthur has tried to shift over the years. They only work on Swedish electricty, apparently. |
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 23, 2020 21:15:48 GMT
What a great scene that is . I think you'd be hard pressed to find an actor that can do 'drunk' as well as George Cole could carry it off. The part where he splutters out his cigar smoke and changes his expression to one of innocent disbelief "WONT WORK!" Genius. I love the bit where he’s exaggerating his confrontation with Standen, and describes him as a ‘n-nondescript squickpeep”. Also I think the concept of a Chippendale record player is up there with fire damaged woks and flood damaged umbrellas in the lock up of dodgy gear that Arthur has tried to shift over the years. They only work on Swedish electricty, apparently. All absolute classics which script writers deserve an awful lot of credit for. George Cole was a wonderful actor who delivered Arthurs dialogue perfectly but I think we sometimes forget that the actors are given their lines and in the background there are writers who devise all of this and the plots/storylines. |
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Post by johnnybear on Jun 25, 2020 14:03:14 GMT
Bobbie Brown as the secretary...  JB |
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 25, 2020 20:37:17 GMT
Bobbie Brown as the secretary... JB Very nice. Stunning figure in that secretary skirt and blouse combo with high heels . |
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Post by johnnybear on Jun 27, 2020 8:49:27 GMT
She didn't do much which is a sad shame and soon disappeared over the years!  JB |
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