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Post by jno on Jun 10, 2015 6:22:22 GMT
Link to episode on minder.org: www.minder.org/episodeguide/S08E06_TheLastTemptationOfDaley.htm
I watched this one again recently and I although I think both Arthur & Ray do their best to make something out of the script, I have always found the story in this one tends drags out a little too much. Although GC is on top form, there are large gaps where very little happens and sadly this is not one of my favourites as Arthur is a little bit on the silly side throughout as he has temporarily given up booze and cigars.
I am still not sure what the doctor's receptionist says to Arthur at the start of this one as he enters the surgery - it sounds like "Dr Hardman's been buzzing" which Arthur replies "I haven't been feeling too good myself". Benny McLeish is clearly a bit of a nutter in this one and the fight scene at the end probably could have been a bit more brutal than it turned out.
Some familiar faces - the pub landlord is Arthur Whybrow, who was Bozz Boswell in 'Minder On The Orient Express'. I recognise the girl at the bar at the end but cannot place her. One of the heavies who works for McLeish seen in the van at the end is Terry 'Terence' Plummer, who appeared in lots of earlier episodes of Minder.
The man in the café who Arthur throws his coffee over was also a bouncer at the casino in 'You Lose Some, You Win Some' back in series 2.
According to the locations list for this episode, the wine merchant that Arthur goes to at the end is The Nest, Hanwell at 106 Uxbridge Rd. There is also an entry for external shot of a garage listed as Brent Wheel & Tyre, 154 Church Rd, NW10 - this doesn't feature in the episode so I can only assume this wasn't filmed or cut out later on. Ray does refer to getting the car fixed after Arthur hits the kerb.
As for clues as to when it was filmed - the man in the café is reading a Daily Mirror with a partially viewable headline but nothing much else to go except Cadbury's Cream Eggs on the shop counter only available 6 weeks prior to Easter - unlikely a prop as apparently shop was in use then so this must be one of the last to be filmed. Morley's hair is a little bit longer too.
Very few funny moments in this one unfortunately but this one line was quite witty:
Doctor: Smoke?
Arthur: No thank you, I just put one out.
Overall, a pretty mediocre affair this one which only shows that Ray will do anything for Arthur to help him out. Only a few familiar faces and half a decent fight sequence at the end do much in this one for me. 5/10
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Post by daz on Jan 4, 2016 12:02:04 GMT
A middle of the road episode if ever there was one. I'm not sure a "headcase" jock builder being sold some dodgy paint and seeking revenge on Arthur makes a decent 50+ minute episode, but try they did. Helped along by the other plot of Arthur laying off the cigars and VAT helped somewhat to make this episode more watchable.
Six episodes in and if I have one major criticism of the series, I would say Morley has taken over from Chisholm in that Daley appears to be the bane of his life and at all costs he is out to get him, just seems a bit unlikely and also feel he over acts at times.
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Post by jno on Jan 4, 2016 15:47:19 GMT
See where you're coming from there daz. I think series 8 gets better towards the end. Overall I think it's the weakest Ray series.
The pub at the end of this one - I think I must have spent months on maps hunting this down. The clue was the dodgy green interior. I noticed the same dodgy interior fittings in 'Gone With The Winchester' and got it from that.
It is the 90s 'midweek pub vibe' I like about this episide. The empty pub at the ends reminds me of midweek nights during that time - nobody in except hardcore regulars which made it ideal for a game of pool as no one was in. The pub really only existed for Friday and Saturday nights where they made enough wedge to carry them through the rest of the week.
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Post by daz on Jan 4, 2016 19:17:43 GMT
I have enjoyed series 8 in the 6 episodes, but I suppose watching them so close after watching so much of the Terry years recently has made me over critical. I just think if the writers and production crew just thought certain scenes through a little bit more they could have made some of the episodes better.
One thing I am sure of is that the acting of George Cole does help keep the episodes more interesting.
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Post by pr1 on Oct 9, 2016 20:29:08 GMT
George Cole is as brilliant as ever but Arthur's withdrawal from alcohol and cigars does get silly if not ridiculous. I did laugh when Arthur panics that Edward Fox has entered the Winchester with a gun in his crutch! Not too many shows make references to The Day of the Jackel.
I am enjoying Series Eight for the most part but the quality shifts greatly from episode to episode. This one wasn't too bad but suffers from about twenty minutes worth of plot stretched to fifty.
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Post by jno on Oct 9, 2016 20:56:58 GMT
George Cole is as brilliant as ever but Arthur's withdrawal from alcohol and cigars does get silly if not ridiculous. I did laugh when Arthur panics that Edward Fox has entered the Winchester with a gun in his crutch! Not too many shows make references to The Day of the Jackel. I am enjoying Series Eight for the most part but the quality shifts greatly from episode to episode. This one wasn't too bad but suffers from about twenty minutes worth of plot stretched to fifty. Stick with it pr1, as I've said elsewhere on here, there is a dip in the middle of series 8, but it does get better.  |
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Post by pr1 on Oct 9, 2016 21:02:16 GMT
George Cole is as brilliant as ever but Arthur's withdrawal from alcohol and cigars does get silly if not ridiculous. I did laugh when Arthur panics that Edward Fox has entered the Winchester with a gun in his crutch! Not too many shows make references to The Day of the Jackel. I am enjoying Series Eight for the most part but the quality shifts greatly from episode to episode. This one wasn't too bad but suffers from about twenty minutes worth of plot stretched to fifty. Stick with it pr1, as I've said elsewhere on here, there is a dip in the middle of series 8, but it does get better. Don't worry. I have no intention of stopping. |
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Post by daz on Aug 26, 2017 21:06:10 GMT
I watched this today on ITV4. Still a daft storyline, but a few decent Arthur one liners.
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Post by westldner on Nov 13, 2017 9:10:24 GMT
It's a decent episode. Just more way to build character really.
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Post by thewoodster on Mar 5, 2018 21:27:55 GMT
The pub scene at the tail end of this was a good watch. Bit of a stupid storyline over a few pots of paint. Nevertheless worth watching.
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Post by oufc on Aug 7, 2018 10:26:58 GMT
Watched this episode last night. Any episode of Minder is worth watching, however I agree with the posts above, this is one of the weaker Ray Daley episodes in my opinion. Was also quite amusing scene in The Winchester where it transpired that Arthur that tried every single soft drink that Dave had available and in the end had to get a glass of tap water. |
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Post by jno on Oct 7, 2018 4:24:00 GMT
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Post by pr1 on Oct 21, 2018 20:30:15 GMT
I watched this again this afternoon. It has some good moments but the episode drags and gets a bit silly at times. The music during the confrontation outside the pub is fine but seems overly dramatic to accompany what is happening on screen.
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Post by winchesterclub on Mar 27, 2020 16:50:18 GMT
Re watched today , enjoyable for me and actually some quality writing as said probably drags a bit but classic lines like
'English royal Blue paint , you got Spanish royal Blue king Carlos slaps it all over the palace "
and when Arthur see's the bowl of cereal on the table instead of a fried breakfast " you wouldn"t give that to Bugs Bunny"
keeps it above average for me
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Post by blanco on May 21, 2020 14:56:15 GMT
...in answer to what the receptionist says it's 'he's beside himself'
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Post by McCann on May 23, 2020 18:31:10 GMT
One or two good lines from Arthur, but overall very average.
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Post by jno on May 23, 2020 18:41:19 GMT
One or two good lines from Arthur, but overall very average. Does the 90s mid-week pub vibe not get it better than that? I must confess, I voted average for this one too.  For those watching these for the first time, stick with 'em, they get better than this. |
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Post by pr1 on Feb 15, 2021 3:42:13 GMT
There are some good moments throughout but this episode is more uneven than I remember it being. It is also one of the Series Eight episodes plagued with unusual music.
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