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Post by jno on Feb 25, 2015 7:31:17 GMT
Link to episode on minder.org: www.minder.org/episodeguide/S07E02_DaysOfFinesAndClosures.htm
Confirmed filming dates for this one are 25th July 1988 - 5th August 1988.
A nice little anecdote from when I asked actor Tony Selby (who plays 'Muldoon') about this episode:
'First rehearsal of a scene on set I spoke to George with a Scots accent - he looked me in the face and said "Come On Selby, you can't do that, we had Billy Connolly here a couple of weeks ago!" - we all fell about laughing'.
I really like this one but can't help but feel Cooper (played by George Baker) is so much like the character Bobby Altman from series 1's "You Gotta Have Friends" there was a real missed opportunity to recycle and bring back an old enemy/gangster type from the past. One of the rare times we see Terry throw a punch in series 7 too. Great story and nice to see Rycott versus Jones round 2 as Jones sympathises with the plight of The Winchester Club without Dave - mentioning keeping the criminal fraternity all in one club is "all very neat".
Overall: 8/10 - love it!
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Post by jno on Jun 10, 2015 20:15:53 GMT
Here is a review of this episode the following day it was first broadcast from the Daily Express.
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Post by daz on Jan 8, 2016 20:01:34 GMT
Nice little review of the episode above. Love the part which mentions George Cole being a clever actor, which I wholly concur with. If there is one thing I have been reminded of whilst immersing myself in the Minder boxset these past few months, is is how good an actor he was. It's his mov ement and expressions which stand out for me, skills that must have been honed whilst treading the boards of many a theatre as a young man.
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Post by I used to think I was a parrot on Feb 4, 2016 23:10:24 GMT
I love the bit where Arthur and Terry are doing the stakeout and Terry is eating a boiled egg.
Terry is doing a posh shop here with avocado, steak, caviar, pineapple, red wine...! when he met Jan Francis in the supermarket before he was buying a ready made lasagne.
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Post by daytona355 on Feb 7, 2016 16:28:14 GMT
Great episode, Arthur getting his 'new titfer' knocked off by Daves Mrs, she hates Arthur, and Terry having to actually mind him from a woman! Hilarious
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Post by daytona355 on Feb 7, 2016 23:39:56 GMT
Watching this episode right now, Arthur so cheeky, cancelling the auction to prevent bidders against him, class!
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Post by jno on Feb 8, 2016 2:45:03 GMT
Watching this episode right now, Arthur so cheeky, cancelling the auction to prevent bidders against him, class! Agreed, it's great. I remember seeing this on original broadcast and distinctly remember it for one thing i.e. the one that Dave goes missing in. It is arguably Dave's most famous episode for me even though he's not in it that much. This one has a much newer feel to it and I will always be fond of series 7 as this is probably the one I watched first time all the way through, and knew it was coming having seen the 1988 Christmas special. I have fond memories of this time in 1989 and Minder back on TV is very much part of that.
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Post by chopper on Feb 8, 2016 10:01:42 GMT
10 years on & the show still had class,admittedly - a couple of episodes were lacking a bit,but was still a great TV programme. I was much older by this series (about 18) Barry The Book & I enjoyed watching these a lot!
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Post by chopper on Feb 8, 2016 10:55:27 GMT
I don't remember the Xmas special,for some reason?!?
Think my fave from this series was "Fiddler On The Hoof" just ahead of "Sorry Lorry Morrie"
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Post by ltd on Feb 21, 2016 16:50:21 GMT
Nice little review of the episode above. Love the part which mentions George Cole being a clever actor, which I wholly concur with. If there is one thing I have been reminded of whilst immersing myself in the Minder boxset these past few months, is is how good an actor he was. It's his mov ement and expressions which stand out for me, skills that must have been honed whilst treading the boards of many a theatre as a young man. I love the scene where he's cross examining Rycott in the witness box. He's better at it than most professional advocates would be - hence him being the toast of the robing room no doubt. I never saw anyone that good down the magistrates' court back in my days as a solicitor's clerk. Brilliant performance by George Cole.
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Post by pr1 on Aug 22, 2016 1:26:15 GMT
I love the way Arthur refers to World War One as Kitchner wanting to play an away match in France. The long break in production doesn't seem to have done the show any harm. Arthur in court is a series highlight and further proof, if any more was needed, that George Cole is brilliant in the role.
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Post by jno on Oct 20, 2016 11:42:58 GMT
First ever repeat of this episode was on Thursday 17th January 1991. A great TV Times listing split up by a certain Ted Roach (Tony Scannell) in 'The Bill'.
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Post by syrupapplesnpears on Nov 27, 2016 12:03:35 GMT
Yes, some great work from George in this one.
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Post by billyfarmer on Jan 31, 2017 18:29:14 GMT
Definitely another one of my favourite episodes, I can remember recording Days of Fines and Closures, when the episode, was first shown in 1989.
Yet again, Arthur shows how devious and self-centered, he can be, putting up the cancelled sign, at the auction, and asking Justin (Mark Farmer), to get rid of his fellow bidder, at the auction, and when the auctioneer asks for Arthur's name, Arthur's reply - McCann, also when Arthur wants Terry to be the bouncer at the opening of Tony Benson's nightclub, and Terry would rather look after the Winchester Club.
I enjoyed seeing Jones (the Welsh Wizard), get the better of Rycott, when he helped Arthur and Terry, in making sure the Winchester Club's licence renewal, would be successful.
Also enjoyed the scenes, featuring Arthur's attempts, to brighten up the Winchester Club, and Dave's words at the end of the episode, when he saw what Arthur had done to the Winchester Club - Arthur Daley, you're barred.
Some good guest stars in this episode - George Baker, Thorley Walters, Tony Selby, Patricia Maynard and Tim Barrett.
The third Minder episode, to feature a supermarket scene.
Below is a screencap (from Days of Fines and Closures) of Patricia Maynard as Lucy Harris.
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Post by Arch Stanton on Jun 21, 2017 10:03:02 GMT
A voted this as an 'excellent' episode. Watched last night. I totally agree with jno on Baker's character/heavy handed gangster. He should have reprised his role from series one.. And one of my gripes with Minder is that it doesn't happen often enough, it being self referential about the community it creates.. There are countless opportunities for repeat characters and in-jokes that aren't used. Anyway, this episode had numerous highlights for me.. The way Arthur says Justin and it sounds a little too much like Justine, and then he goes onto say it's one of those 'either or names like Leslie or Billy' Another bit which made me chuckle was the line 'ones man's firewood is another man's porcupine whatsernames'. Justin squaring up to Baker's heavies, Arthur in the court room.. Scene after scene of amusing lines. Top episode.
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Post by Wynn Chester on Jun 21, 2017 10:30:06 GMT
Watched last night. I totally agree with jno on Baker's character/heavy handed gangster. He should have reprised his role from series one.. And one of my gripes with Minder is that it doesn't happen often enough, it being self referential about the community it creates.. There are countless opportunities for repeat characters and in-jokes that aren't used. Anyway, this episode had numerous highlights for me.. The way Arthur says Justin and it sounds a little too much like Justine, and then he goes onto say it's one of those 'either or names like Leslie or Billy' Another bit which made me chuckle was the line 'ones man's firewood is another man's porcupine whatsernames'. Justin squaring up to Baker's heavies, Arthur in the court room.. Scene after scene of amusing lines. Top episode. One of the best late Terry episodes... "Ohhh.... I've gone and burnt me wassaname!"
With regards continuity, I try and remember that if we'd been watching this episode in 1988, a full 9 years would have passed between George Baker appearing as a similar but different character in series 1, so I doubt we would have noticed then... but because we tend to eat/drink/sleep Minder, or in my case, watch series 1-7 in a matter of a couple of weeks, its far more noticeable. But Baker is a great villain nonetheless, under both names
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Post by Zimbo on Aug 24, 2017 18:06:03 GMT
A very good episode with a strong script. The scene with Justin(e) trying to act hard with Cooper, who thought he was a "gluesniffer with permanent brain damage" was classic. The Jones v Rycott rivalry works well here. Excellent guest cast. I know they must have been on good terms but I reckon Patricia Maynard probably enjoyed handbagging Dennis in a great scene at court.
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Post by I used to think I was a parrot on Sept 22, 2017 20:58:34 GMT
I've remembered that this has a classic bit in it. Rycott asks Terry where he got the inside police information from, and Terry says "a little bird told me". Rycott responds "yes - a great Welsh TIT!" (referring to Jones of course).
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 21, 2018 23:39:34 GMT
The courtroom scenes are fantastic. A combination yet again of great comedy writing and George Cole for his delivery.
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Post by pr1 on Sept 10, 2018 3:03:41 GMT
Absolutely wonderful episode. I had forgotten about Justin's encounter with Cooper and his goons. A great scene.
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Post by chopper on Oct 30, 2018 20:33:41 GMT
Watched it again on ITV4 this afternoon I’ll get around to having box sets one day. A great episode - far more comedy than some other episodes, just a little lacking in a couple of moments. Great script and cast though. Jones is on fine form - 4/5
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Post by westldner on Dec 11, 2018 17:47:34 GMT
I'm getting into series' 7 production quality. Really late 80s. the episode is funny, the bars being trashed and club being decorated at the end. It was too great. Jones at the supermarket was just too funny. Yes, this was a great episode.
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Post by denzel on Aug 5, 2019 21:24:24 GMT
can't help but feel Cooper (played by George Baker) is so much like the character Bobby Altman from series 1's "You Gotta Have Friends" there was a real missed opportunity to recycle and bring back an old enemy/gangster type from the past. You made what was to be the first of my points, jno. Was thinking that exact same thing, as others have said too, about Baker's villian here..only I feel the same about the Johnny Shannon character, Tony Benson as well. Far too similar in my mind, him in his bar on the blower to Arthur in this, and in his bar in Second Hand Pose doing likewise, as Roly Poly. Bit too deja vu, is all. - Written by David Yallop, who went on to pen the final Terry episode, the first Ray episode, and several more after that.
- An episode for Dave..sort of. Despite his not having much to do here, it'll be recalled as one of his finest hours, I guess.
- Justin says Nick down the Greek place "likes to chat, innit". Sort of the pot calling the kettle black, I'd have thought..nice touch.
- Great to see the inspired Jones helping the chaps..something Cheerful Charlie would loathe doing.
- Again, the DC MacDonald character is a waste of one, it seems.
- The courtroom scene is simply great Minder, as any scene is by default, not much else to say..Cole is great, and so is Peter Childs.
- A bit of random silliness at the market, before the end..I don't know, but I enjoyed seeing Arthur making that cheerful trader's day...different music, saab, he says..round and round and round...also, fresh.
- In that same market scene, we get, rather than a standard title drop, a drop of the title's origin here, chucked in by Mr. Yallop...Days Of Wine And Roses.
- Seeing the Winch like that at the end was certainly interesting..certainly seemed very late 80's indeed..and whether for that reason or not, this scene seemed perfectly suited to a later series of the show, when we can maybe appreciate the laughs more.
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Post by denzel on Aug 5, 2019 21:27:59 GMT
remember it for one thing i.e. the one that Dave goes missing in. It is arguably Dave's most famous episode for me even though he's not in it that much. Another thing I noticed is that, likewise, 'Er Indoors gets a similar episode, where she is missing, and, of course has very little to do, despite the episode centering on her...and it was also written by David Yallop. Regarding the issue of similar characters to past ones played by the same actor...moreover, why they don't just reprise the first character and be done with it...I don't suppose having different writers for each of the episodes may affect this? Would it particularly be a problem, with rights or whatever, to resuse an exact character name from someone else's episode? Just for the sake of an example or two..You Gotta Have Friends was written by Leon Griffiths, who'd come up with the name "Bobby Altman". Likewise Roly-Poly Peter, by Tony Hoare, in Second Hand Pose. I don't know, just a thought on what goes through the production's minds, when it comes to continuity. Can be a very different thing to our, the viewer/fan's thinking.
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Post by jno on Mar 1, 2020 5:05:45 GMT
Production paperwork snippets that indicate when this was filmed - end of July into August 1988.
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Post by denzel on Mar 2, 2020 1:36:55 GMT
Cool stuff....I know little to nothing myself about the paperwork side of things, jno.. but Minder VI... should that not be VII? As we are talking series 7 here?
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Post by jno on Mar 3, 2020 4:38:23 GMT
Cool stuff....I know little to nothing myself about the paperwork side of things, jno.. but Minder VI... should that not be VII? As we are talking series 7 here? Yes we are, but production series numbers got mixed up between series 4 and series 5. They filmed both at the same time as a single block i.e. late 1983 into spring 1984 but broadcast series 5 as a separate entity later. Thus 'Minder IV' (in production terms) is actually what the viewer considers to be series 4 and series 5. Series 4 (as we, the viewer, knows it) actually finished filming at Christmas 1983, with production (of 'Minder IV') resuming in January 1984. The episodes filmed from January 1984 onwards are what we viewers know as series 5. Subsequently, 'Minder V' is what we all consider to be series 6, and as can be seen here 'Minder VI' is in fact series 7. I hope that makes sense. The -1 thing also continued into the Gary Webster years too.
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Post by denzel on Mar 3, 2020 9:25:39 GMT
Cool stuff....I know little to nothing myself about the paperwork side of things, jno.. but Minder VI... should that not be VII? As we are talking series 7 here? Yes we are, but production series numbers got mixed up between series 4 and series 5. They filmed both at the same time as a single block i.e. late 1983 into spring 1984 but broadcast series 5 as a separate entity later. Thus 'Minder IV' (in production terms) is actually what the viewer considers to be series 4 and series 5. Series 4 (as we, the viewer, knows it) actually finished filming at Christmas 1983, with production (of 'Minder IV') resuming in January 1984. The episodes filmed from January 1984 onwards are what we viewers know as series 5. Subsequently, 'Minder V' is what we all consider to be series 6, and as can be seen here 'Minder VI' is in fact series 7. I hope that makes sense. The -1 thing also continued into the Gary Webster years too. Ah...never knew any of that at all...hard to think of series 4 and 5 having too much to do with each other.. but then again...I always felt some episodes like, say, Shamy, felt like the previous series. Also kind of explains Arnie's presence in series 4 (our series 4) as well as 5. Fascinating stuff, thanks for the info, jno
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Post by madaboutdeltics on May 8, 2020 10:44:26 GMT
Just watching this, this morning.
One of the funniest scenes ever when Mrs Harris (Dave from the Winchester’s wife) attacks Arthur in the court.
Really had me laughing.
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Post by gareth on May 8, 2020 11:02:19 GMT
Just watching this, this morning. One of the funniest scenes ever when Mrs Harris (Dave from the Winchester’s wife) attacks Arthur in the court. Really had me laughing. Also seeing Terry behind the bar in the Winchester cracked me up!
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