raymond
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Post by raymond on Dec 22, 2022 17:23:16 GMT
An enjoyable start to Ray Daley years. I was a bit worried as people seem to avoid show once Terry left. I don't like the "tension" music they employ, it's not off-putting but unnecessary. Ray looks so young while Terry had by end of Series 7 looked older but still the bad guys knew Terry wasn't around so he was still feared on the manor.
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Post by azza200 on Dec 23, 2022 23:56:36 GMT
An enjoyable start to Ray Daley years. I was a bit worried as people seem to avoid show once Terry left. I don't like the "tension" music they employ, it's not off-putting but unnecessary. Ray looks so young while Terry had by end of Series 7 looked older but still the bad guys knew Terry wasn't around so he was still feared on the manor. That runs thru every episode of the Rays as it was the thing for 90's dramas back then Though its not as bad the constant music on loop on Great British Menu where the music is even more predictable for when they are going to say something negative about the dish lol
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manta
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Post by manta on Apr 6, 2023 8:44:59 GMT
It's a good start to the Ray years. It gets a Good from me. Arthur is on form, the new plod are OK but not quite yet up to the standard we have come to expect - but it's early days. Ray is settling in - not surprising as he some enormous shoes to fill. Dave seems a bit nonplussed at times - or is that just me? The story line is good, the wedding, as others has pointed out, is a lovely nod to The Godfather with Arthur holding court with the menfolk in awe and the ladies complaining about the dresses he's sold them! We then progress to Terry's departure which I agree with folks here was well handled. And the story is couple of plots nicely intertwined. People complain that the "we're family" is a bit overdone but you can imagine Arthur using whatever line works for him, so I'm afraid we have to live with that. The music in some of the scenes is a bit naff but that's what they did at the time. Overall it's a bit rough around the edges but let's cut them some slack as half of the duo has gone. But Arthur is still Arthur.
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Post by AlanH on Jan 17, 2024 22:39:20 GMT
Finally reached the Ray Daley years on my viewing of the series care of the Via Vision / Umbrella Entertainment Australian DVDs and have to say, first impressions are very positive. I like the fact that the Arthur / Ray relationship is not a clone of the Arthur / Terry one. The series does feel like it's received a freshen-up, not that I couldn't have taken many more Arthur / Terry episodes.
Some great lines and quips and Gary Webster acquits himself very well. Glynn Edwards seems to have aged more than the two-ish years since Series 7 and George Cole is as magnetic a presence as ever.
However, the big negative is the music. The atrocious reperformance of the theme sans lyrics seems to have the drums and the leadline fighting each other and has dated far more badly than the original, and the sudden introduction of dramatic incidental 'stings' is plain weird and doesn't feel at all appropriate for Minder.
But all in all an excellent start for the 'new' (aka 33 year old) era.
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Post by metro1962 on Jan 17, 2024 23:35:54 GMT
the big negative is the music. The atrocious reperformance of the theme sans lyrics seems to have the drums and the leadline fighting each other and has dated far more badly than the original, and the sudden introduction of dramatic incidental 'stings' is plain weird and doesn't feel at all appropriate for Minder. But all in all an excellent start for the 'new' (aka 33 year old) era. On first viewing & later viewings that still grates with me too. I take it there would be a problem reusing the Original theme? or maybe a new series meant new music. I have never watched the reboot series so I take it they used different music too?
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Post by AlanH on Jan 18, 2024 0:22:05 GMT
I guess they wanted a clean break from the Dennis Waterman era - and to relaunch the series with a fresh musical identity. I see from the end credits that this 1991 version was credited to Kenny. Did they actually perform it (I can't imagine they would do it so badly!)?
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Post by swainy on Jan 18, 2024 5:01:22 GMT
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Post by AlanH on Jan 18, 2024 8:48:10 GMT
But I presume not the theme, as IMDb credits him as composer / conductor: incidental music. I guess I'll get more used to the change in flavour musically, but I don't think I'll change my mind about the theme arrangement...
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Post by swainy on Jan 18, 2024 10:38:18 GMT
But I presume not the theme, as IMDb credits him as composer / conductor: incidental music. I guess I'll get more used to the change in flavour musically, but I don't think I'll change my mind about the theme arrangement... I’m pretty sure that he done the re-worked theme tune too.
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Post by AlanH on Jan 18, 2024 10:51:11 GMT
I'm rather partial to some of his other stuff, particularly his score for Jupiter Moon, so I'm kinda hoping that the theme isn't a Parker arrangement!
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Post by Portland Road on Jan 23, 2024 7:36:43 GMT
The 'Kenny' on the credits must refer to the theme songwriter Gerard Kenny?
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Post by jno on Jan 23, 2024 9:35:00 GMT
The 'Kenny' on the credits must refer to the theme songwriter Gerard Kenny? Yes.
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Post by metro1962 on Jan 23, 2024 11:05:09 GMT
The 'Kenny' on the credits must refer to the theme songwriter Gerard Kenny? Indeed. Known for New York,New York (so good they named it twice) and D D Dancing and of course the Widows tv theme.👍 There was a teeny bop band in the 70s called Kenny that had hits The Bump & Baby I love you O.K. and many thought that was the band playing the theme music.
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Post by AlanH on Jan 23, 2024 12:46:27 GMT
"Many" including me, it seems!
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Post by Portland Road on Jan 29, 2024 7:06:19 GMT
It is feasible that, with his association with session musician pop music, Alan Parker could have played on Kenny's (i.e. the glam rock group) records.
I don't think this happened, though e.g., some Kenny tracks had input from Alan's colleagues Roger Cook & Roger Greenaway.
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