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Post by thewoodster on Aug 2, 2018 11:59:10 GMT
Good episode this. Love the line above "I don't think you've met my new Minder Ray Daley...." Classic. Also that Mark 2 Golf GTI is a nice motor. Classic episode and motor oufc.
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Post by pr1 on Oct 1, 2018 3:34:44 GMT
I watched this again today and still think it's a great start to the Ray Daley era.
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Post by Toecutter on Nov 7, 2018 19:37:56 GMT
Having just finished watching the last episode to feature Terry McCann, it's difficult not to measure it up against this first instalment to introduce our new minder Ray Daley, and it pains me to say how much I disliked 'The Loneliness of the Long Distance Entrepreneur'. When watching this it struck me what a shadow of its former self Minder had become by this point. With its tongue now firmly planted in its cheek, I find it a bit of a stretch to expect the audience to believe that the character of Arthur Daley is now the don of the manor, the fixer, revered by family members as he holds court at a wedding reception. Or that he is no longer a self-preserving coward who scarpers at the first sign of trouble, instead fearlessly fronting the three cartoon villains as he calmly strolls into the Winchester. As for Terry; he gets married and moves to Australia. Really? This just strikes me as out of character. And it's the little details like the sudden change of Dave's attire to the cheesy incidental music that all add up to a disappointing experience. On a positive note, top marks go to Gary Webster, who, in the unenviable position of having to fill Dennis's boots, brings a certain vulnerability and innocence to the character; managing to stamp his own mark on the series from the off. As a run-of-the-mill comedy-drama it scores an 'average', as a Minder episode it gets a 'poor' from me. Fair points taken there, but comparing back in the day, sitting down in the 90s and watching this then as opposed to a repeat festival was different. Almost three year gap, the world was arguably a simpler place and after an extended gap, it was great to have the show back on telly even without Dennis. This was 90s, Dennis was 80s, things had become slightly less shoulder pad and more mobile phone - for me this was an ideal transition from 80s to an updated 90s Minder - it could never be the same show, it moved with the times and incidental music was simply part of its 90s character. For me this didn't make the concept of what Arthur did any different, just switched the focus away from squabbling couple to uncle/nephew with an updated 90s feel. Watching this now and with the exception of the GW getting top marks (always thought he was poor,especially in the early episodes) couldn't agree more.Banging on about 'family' got really tedious for me over the coming episodes. Just noticed when Park and Morley find the stuff in the spare wheel,Park calls it cannabis,but Arthur who doesn't even do paracetateemol,adds the word resin.
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Post by newishminderfan on Dec 14, 2018 0:12:18 GMT
Anyone know the name of the second song played at the wedding?
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Post by jno on Dec 14, 2018 15:24:42 GMT
Anyone know the name of the second song played at the wedding? Thanks to flyingsquad... I believe it could be 'The Godfather' theme which coincides with the cloak room scenes.
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Post by newishminderfan on Dec 14, 2018 18:47:10 GMT
Thanks, jno, but I meant the second song performed by the singer I know the first is Yesterday by the Beatles, but can't really make out any of the lyrics from the second
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Post by jno on Dec 14, 2018 20:27:02 GMT
Thanks, jno, but I meant the second song performed by the singer I know the first is Yesterday by the Beatles, but can't really make out any of the lyrics from the second It is a cover of 'Tie a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree'
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Post by newishminderfan on Dec 14, 2018 21:47:22 GMT
Thanks, jno
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Post by jno on Dec 25, 2018 18:12:36 GMT
Press photo:
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Post by thewoodster on Jan 7, 2019 0:11:39 GMT
Great press photo
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Post by chopper on May 16, 2019 17:56:47 GMT
I remember settling down to watch this as a 20 year old , or might have recorded it, as I might have been rugby training?!?... anyway, thought I’d be open enough to give it a go, I can honestly say that I never watched another episode after this, although I do remember watching one with Gina McKee in it, I do catch parts of these ITV4 repeats, but just never got into them. I caught a bit of today’s episode, playing a football match on a rather run down football ground.
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Post by chopper on May 16, 2019 17:57:25 GMT
Good episode this. Love the line above "I don't think you've met my new Minder Ray Daley...." Classic. Also that Mark 2 Golf GTI is a nice motor. Classic episode and motor oufc. Mk 2 Golf GTI is my favourite car - ever.
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Post by jno on Jul 27, 2019 5:58:07 GMT
Another press photo:
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Post by jjmolloy on Sept 12, 2019 16:00:09 GMT
I always thought it was a pity that Terry didn't appear as a cameo in this episode,as he is referred to at the start.
Even a non speaking part where Arthur rushes off to the airport and they cross paths unknown to each other in traffic or at the airport.
I always imagine Arthur paging Terry at Heathrow and Terry makes his way to the meeting point only for Arthur to get buttonholed by someone who has a bone to pick with him!
Cue to a shot then of Arthur watching a Jumbo taking off..
It would just have been a nice touch.
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Post by rog73 on Dec 3, 2019 7:47:58 GMT
Great episode, but just noticed a weird continuity error. When Morley pulls up outside his house at 42 mins and finds his car back there it has its GTI badge on the front. Two seconds later when he gets out it’s missing. Thought it wasn’t there earlier in the episode!
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Post by swainy on Dec 18, 2019 16:56:39 GMT
Skip to 12:55 for the trailer of the new series of Minder coming soon!
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Post by gareth on May 15, 2020 9:29:10 GMT
Just watched this one..
A bit sad at the beginning when it’s “ Crystal Terry has left the building”
However the first Minder with Ray turns out be be a real classic..
1. Arthur’s tries to lure Terry back with 100 sovs and promptly reduces it to 40 sovs prior to dropping them through the box... 2. The look on Arthur’s face when Ray thinks he’s done him a good turn by offloading a few motors and Ray brings him some money in the form of a cheque - priceless.
Also there’s a few classic quotes like when he says to Ray “Atleast if you were a goldfish you’re parents could have flushed you down the toilet”
When he’s talking to DS Morley about cars and he says “ I’m not a greengrocer selling Lemons”,
But what I want to know is when it got decided Arthur would become a 25% shareholder in the Winchester club? As there’s no reference through series 7...Baffling?
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Post by jno on May 15, 2020 11:43:45 GMT
Stick with it Gareth, as I've mentioned elsewhere on this forum, I think series 8 is the worst of the three Gary Webster series, 9 is an improvement but 10 is a classic.
This episode, 'The Coach That Came In From The Cold', 'Too Many Crooks' and 'The Odds Couple' are the highlights of series 8.
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Post by gareth on May 15, 2020 15:34:41 GMT
Thanks jno
I’ll keep an eye out for those three episodes over the next couple of weeks as ITV4 are repeating series 8 at present.
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Post by barrythebook on May 15, 2020 18:13:51 GMT
When Ginger and his heavies were in the Winchester putting the arm on Dave, I was surprised to see all the drinkers disappear, they couldn't get out fast enough.
They all would have been regulars what with it being a members club and the members of the Winchester were all of a certain fraternity that I thought would have shown a bit of loyalty toward Dave and stood by him.
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Post by winchesterclub on May 15, 2020 18:50:30 GMT
Yes that is a bit strange , there were some big old bruisers in the crowd scene perhaps it made Ray look more the part ?
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Post by yoyopickles on Jun 2, 2020 22:53:53 GMT
It may just prove how threatening ginger was, probably well known on the manor his unorthodox methods of getting money out of people.
Terry was looking a bit past it in his last series, so how would he have looked 2 and a half years later, in this first Ray episode? In all seriousness, I doubt Arthur saying "Terry's on the way" would have been enough to scare them off, even if he had been!
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Post by jno on May 10, 2021 4:37:12 GMT
One from the wedding album.
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Post by newishminderfan on May 10, 2021 17:06:48 GMT
One from the wedding album. So much for it being an original design.
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Post by myinspiration on Jun 24, 2021 20:44:48 GMT
Does this follow The Long Goodbye in real time? Did two years pass in Minder world?
Can't believe Terry would have carried on with Arthur that long! The job offer for the car showroom, doing another period in jail, having a serious falling out with Arthur over his role.
Also, although lots of characters are new to us, I assume Terry would have known them and interacted with them? e.g. Morley and Park.
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Post by myinspiration on Jun 24, 2021 20:51:35 GMT
I always thought it was a pity that Terry didn't appear as a cameo in this episode,as he is referred to at the start. Even a non speaking part where Arthur rushes off to the airport and they cross paths unknown to each other in traffic or at the airport. I always imagine Arthur paging Terry at Heathrow and Terry makes his way to the meeting point only for Arthur to get buttonholed by someone who has a bone to pick with him! Cue to a shot then of Arthur watching a Jumbo taking off.. It would just have been a nice touch. As the great writer Kieran Prendeville said about his show Ballykissangel, the more you refer to a past character, the more distracting it is for the current audience! I think they could have clarified a bit more about how Terry left. His mother-in-law says he 'wrote' to Arthur, which seems a bit strange after maybe 20 years together. But perhaps it was a very long, heartfelt, letter that looked back on their time together and wished Arthur well for the future - we can only speculate. Your idea for a scene would have been absolutely great, but writers seldom deal in nostalgia!
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Post by myinspiration on Jun 24, 2021 20:53:35 GMT
One from the wedding album. So much for it being an original design. In the episode, it almost seems like the lady with the black hair is 'Er Indoors, the way Doreen refers to her. But then we hear she went straight to be kitchen on arrival - so I guess it wasn't her. (But we do only see her from behind, so I did wonder.....)
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Post by myinspiration on Jun 24, 2021 21:00:41 GMT
It seems Arthur has a sister?
In the opening wedding scene, ''Yesterday'' is being sung and Doreen asks Bert why? Bert stutteringly indicates it was a request. Doreen replies ''I bet it was from that sister of yours?'' Logic would dictate that Bert's sister must also be Arthur's sister(or half sister at least). We get a fleeting glance of her as she loads up at the buffet. I don't recall her being mentioned in any other episode, nor do we find out her name. I certainly can't imagine Arthur calling her Sis. I think that this was to indicate that all the Daley's were there, hence the fact it was an important Daley family wedding. Arthurs family (apart from er indoors and Arthurs kids ) had never been mentioned before (we never get to know who the relations we see at the wedding in Another Bride, Another Groomwere) aprt from Arthurs niece Trina, who's surname is NOT Daley....... There had never been a mention of Arthur having a brother before, or a sister The fanboy in me would like to imagine that it was the wedding of Archie and Deliah daley.... There's an episode in Series 6(?) where we meet Arthur's nephew Nigel, a Nazi skinhead! Seeing as Bert seems to be Arthur's only brother, and Ray his only son, does this mean that they changed the continuity? Or could Nigel be Ray's brother?? Or would it work if 'Er Indoors had a nephew??
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Post by yoyopickles on Jun 24, 2021 21:09:57 GMT
I think that this was to indicate that all the Daley's were there, hence the fact it was an important Daley family wedding. Arthurs family (apart from er indoors and Arthurs kids ) had never been mentioned before (we never get to know who the relations we see at the wedding in Another Bride, Another Groomwere) aprt from Arthurs niece Trina, who's surname is NOT Daley....... There had never been a mention of Arthur having a brother before, or a sister The fanboy in me would like to imagine that it was the wedding of Archie and Deliah daley.... There's an episode in Series 6(?) where we meet Arthur's nephew Nigel, a Nazi skinhead! Seeing as Bert seems to be Arthur's only brother, and Ray his only son, does this mean that they changed the continuity? Or could Nigel be Ray's brother?? Or would it work if 'Er Indoors had a nephew?? Nigel is the son of er indoors sister so is er indoors blood relation,not arthurs
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Post by myinspiration on Jun 24, 2021 21:58:27 GMT
There's an episode in Series 6(?) where we meet Arthur's nephew Nigel, a Nazi skinhead! Seeing as Bert seems to be Arthur's only brother, and Ray his only son, does this mean that they changed the continuity? Or could Nigel be Ray's brother?? Or would it work if 'Er Indoors had a nephew?? Nigel is the son of er indoors sister so is er indoors blood relation,not arthurs Thank you!
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