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Post by coyote on Apr 11, 2020 23:47:20 GMT
Meanwhile back ON topic in the Minder section ...  I notice one of the UK DVD releases from Clearvision has a 'Famous Faces' quiz contained on the DVD. Not entirely sure if this was a very poor attempt to get people to invest or not. Has anyone played this Clearvision 'extra'? Yes, I have it on my DVD and it's rubbish. If I had any technical skills I'd upload it somewhere but I don't so I can't  but trust me you're missing nothing |
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Post by coyote on Apr 12, 2020 0:00:15 GMT
I remember the TV Times cover - notwithstanding that Tel looks more like 'Crocodile' Dundee than Dennis Waterman  . This is in the days when the Radio Times only had BBC TV and radio and the TV Times had ITV and Channel 4, so you had to buy both if you wanted to know what was on (and you didn't have Ceefax/Teletext, which we didn't). I was very excited about MOTOE being on and probably videoed it as well as watching it - at Christmas my dad used to borrow a video recorder from work so we had 2 in case there were multiple programmes we wanted to record. No idea where all those tapes went, probably the same way as my last VCR when it died a few years ago. Shame as I remember watching some of the tapes years later and the adverts of the day were a real blast from the past. |
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Post by wayne2467 on Apr 12, 2020 13:27:22 GMT
I remember the TV Times cover - notwithstanding that Tel looks more like 'Crocodile' Dundee than Dennis Waterman . This is in the days when the Radio Times only had BBC TV and radio and the TV Times had ITV and Channel 4, so you had to buy both if you wanted to know what was on (and you didn't have Ceefax/Teletext, which we didn't). I was very excited about MOTOE being on and probably videoed it as well as watching it - at Christmas my dad used to borrow a VHS from work so we had 2 in case there were multiple programmes we wanted to record. No idea where all those tapes went, probably the same way as my last VCR when it died a few years ago. Shame as I remember watching some of the tapes years later and the adverts of the day were a real blast from the past. jno posted most the ads from the original broadcast on YT some years back |
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Post by jno on Apr 12, 2020 13:37:17 GMT
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Post by westldner on May 8, 2020 20:40:37 GMT
It's maybe worth noting that they take the Arlberg version of the Orient-Express route and not the original route that starts in Paris and into Munich. The route that starts from London into Paris but goes into Zurich and other countries and not to the original Orient-Express route that heads into Istanbul via Munich. Either way, seeing where Arthur and Terry get off at the end, shows maybe they weren't going to feature the later trips. They've cleverly cut the later trips. It must have been the joke to begin with, to see who knew about the original Orient Express routes to begin with, as Minder is a comedy after-all. Reference: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orient_Express#Routes |
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Post by barrythebook on May 11, 2020 9:04:47 GMT
It's maybe worth noting that they take the Arlberg version of the Orient-Express route and not the original route that starts in Paris and into Munich. The route that starts from London into Paris but goes into Zurich and other countries and not to the original Orient-Express route that heads into Istanbul via Munich. Either way, seeing where Arthur and Terry get off at the end, shows maybe they weren't going to feature the later trips. They've cleverly cut the later trips. It must have been the joke to begin with, to see who knew about the original Orient Express routes to begin with, as Minder is a comedy after-all. Reference: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orient_Express#RoutesAlso worth noting that Arthur and Terry took the Cornwall version of the Orient Express too westy . You make interesting points though, good information  |
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Post by westldner on May 19, 2020 3:02:24 GMT
It's maybe worth noting that they take the Arlberg version of the Orient-Express route and not the original route that starts in Paris and into Munich. The route that starts from London into Paris but goes into Zurich and other countries and not to the original Orient-Express route that heads into Istanbul via Munich. Either way, seeing where Arthur and Terry get off at the end, shows maybe they weren't going to feature the later trips. They've cleverly cut the later trips. It must have been the joke to begin with, to see who knew about the original Orient Express routes to begin with, as Minder is a comedy after-all. Reference: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orient_Express#RoutesAlso worth noting that Arthur and Terry took the Cornwall version of the Orient Express too westy . You make interesting points though, good information I think it was meant to be like a crooked route, for a joke, to poke at any fans of the actual route, to make them feel like they knew better. I mean the other villain like characters were meant to be forgotten about, so what better way then to put them on an extreme fictional version of the express. Also with this, with what jno posted, with it being signed, to sign something that isn't part of the actual world it's in, to make whoever signed it, not to care so much about the express service itself. It was clearly for fun from their end. Interesting at least: Meanwhile over on propmasters.net this seems to have sold - I swear I didn't buy it... signed by 28 different members of the cast and crew it seems to be the same one they use on the train. |
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Post by jjmooney on May 19, 2020 15:23:44 GMT
Note lack of Christmas ads on the breaks, not like now where we have to suffer endless schmaltzy ads from October onwards, Christmas was a lot more bearable back then.. |
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Post by coyote on May 19, 2020 16:37:18 GMT
Ref the menu - is anyone else disappointed there's no "potage"?  - in fact there's actual loop the loop on there! |
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Post by mrstanford on May 28, 2020 14:03:31 GMT
Thanks, jno. I remember that poster being on the underground. There was also a feature on "What British Films Are Being Made This Year" (or similar) showing Terry and Arthur filming in Primrose Hill in one of the papers earlier in the year. These two things made me sure that the episode was meant for theatrical release.
Just watched the episode on dvd, and was looking for the poster on Google without success. Glad to see I didn't dream it.
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Post by nationalpelmet on Jun 6, 2020 21:23:19 GMT
Just fantastic. What a special should be, nothing too clever almost like a double episode but off the Manor. Bit like when Only Fools did Jolly Boys and To Hull and Back. Love Arthur when Claude asks if the Gordon’s and tonic is straight up, “don’t be so bloody cheeky” 😂
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Post by logie on Jun 14, 2020 16:54:27 GMT
Watching this tonight. For some reason, even though it’s not amongst my favourite episodes as I remember (i’m expecting a solid 4) - i’ve been looking forward to this one more than any other... Perhaps because of the ‘special’ nature of the episode.
I shall report back tomorrow...
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Post by logie on Jun 15, 2020 13:55:02 GMT
Thoroughly enjoyed this last night. OK, the storyline takes a few liberties at times and there are too many 'coincidences' that litter the piece, and are far far removed from the early days of Minder but, what the hell, this is just a fun romp from start to finish so ignore all that - pour yourself a small large one, light up a big fat cigar (if that's your thing) and enjoy.
Is this Chisholm's finest hour? I think so, sad to see him separated from Jones but Ralph Bates as Francois (or Francis as Chisholm insists on calling him) makes a worthy one-off replacement. Some gems from both of them in this :
"Expecting trouble with the wine-waiter are we?"
"You have an expense account, no?"
"Oh. More than adequate" (lies!)
Good to see him wading in when the firearms are being wielded too; our Chisholm may be many things, but he is certainly not a coward.
I had trouble finding this on DVD, most copies going for £30, £40+; good as this is, money is not to be thrown around when you're indefinitely furloughed - I finally found a strange double-bill for under a tenner, with another production on it called 'Bernard & the Genie'; quite why these were together I've no idea - but it was a new (sealed) DVD so well worth the wedge, but the packaging wasn't very nice so I trimmed down my original sleeve from the VHS copy (the original release with art-deco style) and slipped that into the new box to make a lovely presentation copy. Very pleased with that!
(One major downside for me : could have done without the incidental music in this one, it did grate at times and would have been nice to hear the original and classic theme, even an instrumental version would have sufficed)
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Post by jno on Jun 18, 2020 2:32:55 GMT
Thoroughly enjoyed this last night. OK, the storyline takes a few liberties at times and there are too many 'coincidences' that litter the piece, and are far far removed from the early days of Minder but, what the hell, this is just a fun romp from start to finish so ignore all that - pour yourself a small large one, light up a big fat cigar (if that's your thing) and enjoy. If you ever find yourself in Calais logie, take the very short trip to Caffiers station where the motorcyclists take the necklace and when Dennis Waterman punches Adam Faith. Trust me, on that platform you will get the full feeling of Minder fandom and time travel to the 1980s for a few seconds, it's a very strange experience being there for me. |
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Post by plasticpenguin on Jun 18, 2020 8:35:34 GMT
I've seen this film once or twice yet I can only remember the lines:
Terry: "I've got tickets for the Orient Express"
And I think Arthur replies, "tickets for a takeaway"
Or is age setting in?
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Post by logie on Jun 18, 2020 14:22:22 GMT
Its funny, I've not watched this special very much over the years, but I enjoyed giving it an airing last night as part of my trawl through the Terry years. Is it just me though or is the incidental music dreadful? I agree. It belongs in a 'Carry On' film, not a production as fine as this. Just think of the music, and then think of the early episodes of Minder; they would go together like chalk and cheese. I understand Minder evolved into a very different beast from it's early days, but not to the extent of having a soundtrack this low-rent. The other problem is the amount of airings it get throughout the course of the piece, until it really grated on me by the end. It is such a fine outing, that you can just about get past it but it possibly does detract from the episode slightly (I scored a 4; perhaps with a better soundtrack it might have hit the magic 5) |
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Post by milo on Jun 18, 2020 18:24:24 GMT
I remember this being on TV on Christmas Day 1985 opposite the Only Fools and Horses special, To Hull and Back. Unfortunately, it's not included on the Network DVD release 'The Dennis Waterman Years', so I'll have to purchase it separately.
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Post by heredia1 on Jul 10, 2020 16:46:05 GMT
Very enjoyable, apart from the music. So many memorable scenes but Chisholms awkwardness and out of place look had me in the stitches.
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Post by VAT on Jul 12, 2020 16:38:41 GMT
Love it when they're getting on the ferry...Arthur - I always get nervous abroad.....sawn off Bogs and Iffy Water!"
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Post by jjmooney on Jul 12, 2020 20:38:43 GMT
Love it when they're getting on the ferry...Arthur - I always get nervous abroad.....sawn off Bogs and Iffy Water!" Great shows that never were.. The Travel Show With Arthur Daley (You Don't Want To Go There!)  |
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Post by logie on Jul 13, 2020 17:25:03 GMT
Love it when they're getting on the ferry...Arthur - I always get nervous abroad.....sawn off Bogs and Iffy Water!" Great shows that never were.. The Travel Show With Arthur Daley (You Don't Want To Go There!) Well,we had ‘Root into Europe’; that was close enough! |
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Post by westminster on Jul 19, 2020 20:53:53 GMT
I watched Minder on the Orient Express with my dad last night. Brilliant film, really enjoyable with some great Arthur Daley one liners. Proper feelgood stuff with numerous laugh out load moments for the pair of us (dad's 85 as well, btw). Not watched it in ages but I'm glad we did, the whole film's a riot.
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Post by pr1 on Jul 19, 2020 21:05:32 GMT
My dad would be 85 if he were still living and I have no doubt he would have gotten a big kick out of Arthur’s antics. |
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Post by pr1 on Jul 19, 2020 21:11:01 GMT
Those Ad breaks make interesting viewing. The commercials seem low key compared to what we have to endure over here. Even in 1985.
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Post by coyote on Jul 19, 2020 21:28:22 GMT
Love it when they're getting on the ferry...Arthur - I always get nervous abroad.....sawn off Bogs and Iffy Water!" And don't forget plod with guns  |
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Post by pr1 on Jul 19, 2020 22:15:03 GMT
‘Interplod’ is one of my favorite Arthur lines in all of Minder.
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Post by westminster on Jul 20, 2020 10:27:15 GMT
George Cole was brilliant in Minder on the Orient Express, no doubt about it. But there are some great supporting performances as well.
Patrick Malahide, put in a great shift, as people have said, as did Honour Blackman (and what an attractive woman she was too. Maybe not as classically beautiful as some but, man, she just had 'it', didn't she). Good to see Adam Faith getting an outing as well.
Sadly, one thing that did strike me is that so many of those who appeared in the film have now passed away, which is obviously a great pity.
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Post by McCann on Jul 20, 2020 13:21:33 GMT
Those Ad breaks make interesting viewing. The commercials seem low key compared to what we have to endure over here. Even in 1985. Having been in the states a lot back in the early 90s, the hard sell was such a new experience to us. Advertising here was so innocent in comparison. Now though we have almost become more American than the Americans themselves you could say, and cheap credit, endless sales, and the hard sell are everywhere. You probably could hardly tell the difference between an American ad break and a British or Irish one now. Apart from the pharma ads in the States which can be at another level again. |
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Post by daz on Jan 10, 2021 19:30:57 GMT
Watched this afternoon for the second time ever and whilst it has a lot going for it I for one feel it could have been a case of less is more as so much pointless elements in the episode for me.
The descent into farcical for the characters of Chisholm and Rycott is too evident for me here, just not believable and would be a real common feature in Minder from this point forward and wasn't a fan of.
A lot of good bits to be found throughout the episode and I like the overall story but just too farcical for me in the execution to go above a score of average.
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Post by jno on Jan 10, 2021 21:46:32 GMT
Interestingly I also watched this today daz! I have to disagree, I really like this one. Yes, there's a few holes in it - Arthur at the train window, how do they get home etc. but this is Christmas classic and Chisholm is top in this. Having watched Murder On The Express the other night, mrs jno watched this Minder episode for the first time this evening. The result was she enjoyed it too but few laugh out loud moments and she said the ending was rubbish. Nevertheless, I watched this Christmas 1985 and it holds a special place for me. The drama is out in this one and this a light hearted Christmas jolly with two guys you want to win, but you just know they won't as they're both losers. A great 80s British TV film, broadcast when Minder was at its peak. It probably got away with a little more back in the day I concede, due to the show being at the height of its popularity when it went out. |
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. This is in the days when the Radio Times only had BBC TV and radio and the TV Times had ITV and Channel 4, so you had to buy both if you wanted to know what was on (and you didn't have Ceefax/Teletext, which we didn't).
- in fact there's actual loop the loop on there!
