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Post by ontheslate on Nov 14, 2022 9:07:14 GMT
Ah the old Mother's Pride bread wagon at the gypsy site. A real flashback. You used to see loads of that distinctive red and white colour scheme floating about. And the scrapyard behind Wally's car lot must have had a contract with Schweppes. Worked in a pub in West London in the mid 80s. Schweppes tonic for the VAT's (Athur's tipple) and Gin an' tonics, meant they were going a bomb at the time. Was too young to drink in the eighties but watching minder now I always wondered what people thought of Arthur’s choice of tipple as growing up all the men around MeV were strictly pint drinkers and vodka was only drank by the ladies, personally I don’t mind vodka now and then.
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Post by barrythebook on Nov 15, 2022 20:05:16 GMT
Worked in a pub in West London in the mid 80s. Schweppes tonic for the VAT's (Athur's tipple) and Gin an' tonics, meant they were going a bomb at the time. Was too young to drink in the eighties but watching minder now I always wondered what people thought of Arthur’s choice of tipple as growing up all the men around MeV were strictly pint drinkers and vodka was only drank by the ladies, personally I don’t mind vodka now and then. I think businessmen etc. would have viewed drinking shorts more Gentlemanlike than quaffing a pint of beer even though I'm sure they'd loved to have had one on occasion. I think certain folk saw it as an etiquette thing.
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Post by jno on Nov 17, 2022 5:18:01 GMT
Was too young to drink in the eighties but watching minder now I always wondered what people thought of Arthur’s choice of tipple as growing up all the men around MeV were strictly pint drinkers and vodka was only drank by the ladies, personally I don’t mind vodka now and then. I think businessmen etc. would have viewed drinking shorts more Gentlemanlike than quaffing a pint of beer even though I'm sure they'd loved to have had one on occasion. I think certain folk saw it as an etiquette thing. Agree barrythebook. I think back in the pre-alcopop days this was more widely drunk by men. In Fawlty Towers we all know a scotch and water from 'A Touch of Class'. I would hazard a guess that under 40 supped pints while over 40s were on the shorts. Shorts are classy, pints are for the commonman worker.
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Post by ontheslate on Nov 17, 2022 7:26:32 GMT
I knew some men would have shorts but it was normally whiskey or brandy I meant more the fact Arthur drank vodka tonic. I remember watching an episode of the fenn street gang where one the characters tells his dad he got drunk on vodka and the dad insinuating the son was possibly gay because of it obviously done in the 70s sitcom way.
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Post by jjmolloy on Jun 10, 2023 13:45:45 GMT
Great scene between June Whitfield and GC, two absolute legends.
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 10, 2023 18:44:26 GMT
Great scene between June Whitfield and GC, two absolute legends. Arthur's like a rabbit caught in headlights - scared stiff of JW's advances as he was in 'Dreamhouse' when Wanda Ventham made her intentions known.
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Post by euston1971 on Jun 20, 2023 19:47:59 GMT
Given Trevor Preston's long relationship with ABC Television/Thames and Euston Films, I never understood why he only did one 'Minder' script?
Preston was one of Dennis' two favourite writers on 'The Sweeney', so you would have thought he would have used his influence, especially as he was unhappy of how the scripts were as the series moved towards the end of his tenure.
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Post by 615 on Jun 21, 2023 12:08:30 GMT
Given Trevor Preston's long relationship with ABC Television/Thames and Euston Films, I never understood why he only did one 'Minder' script? Preston was one of Dennis' two favourite writers on 'The Sweeney', so you would have thought he would have used his influence, especially as he was unhappy of how the scripts were as the series moved towards the end of his tenure. According to Trevor's Guardian obit, after The Sweeney, in 1978, he did the series 'Out' with Tom Bell and in 1980 'Fox' with Peter Vaughan, (both recently reshown by the wonderful TPTV), so he would probably be busy in the early days of Minder. He appears to have suffered with Bipolar on and off, and the obit mentions that his ideas for programmes were getting knocked back by producers, so he may not have been in a frame of mind to write the later, less gritty episodes. He seemed to concentrate on single projects later on in his career.
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Post by euston1971 on Jun 23, 2023 17:35:52 GMT
Given Trevor Preston's long relationship with ABC Television/Thames and Euston Films, I never understood why he only did one 'Minder' script? Preston was one of Dennis' two favourite writers on 'The Sweeney', so you would have thought he would have used his influence, especially as he was unhappy of how the scripts were as the series moved towards the end of his tenure. According to Trevor's Guardian obit, after The Sweeney, in 1978, he did the series 'Out' with Tom Bell and in 1980 'Fox' with Peter Vaughan, (both recently reshown by the wonderful TPTV), so he would probably be busy in the early days of Minder. He appears to have suffered with Bipolar on and off, and the obit mentions that his ideas for programmes were getting knocked back by producers, so he may not have been in a frame of mind to write the later, less gritty episodes. He seemed to concentrate on single projects later on in his career. Out and Fox were excellent pieces of drama and a high point for Euston and ITV drama in general. Preston was never fashionable and born on the wrong side of the tracks, so I can certainly sympathise with his bitterness towards the industry that he gave so much. He was never a corporate man, but worked in a corporate industry so was always up against it and it is of no surprise that many of his scripts focussed on class with a little anger thrown in for good measure. I remember going through a box set of Callan and there was one episode that stood out like a sore thumb with lots of dialogue and lots of cynicism from the character. I checked the writer and it was one Trevor Preston...
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Post by Portland Road on Jun 26, 2023 5:36:00 GMT
'Minder' moved more towards being a comedy drama as the 80s progressed - maybe Trevor Preston's screenplays could not embrace the lighter-hearted aspect of this.
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Post by simon316 on Oct 12, 2023 17:27:47 GMT
I liked this episode a lot - a great chance to see an AWP actor in Jimmy Nail and a clever storyline and script. I know there is a lot of comment about Jimmy's accent but I thought he carried the role well.
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Post by spacecadet on Mar 25, 2024 15:26:19 GMT
TV Times photo for first showing.
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Post by john on Mar 25, 2024 20:52:51 GMT
I read somewhere that the actor who played Wally in this episode also played Ari, a Greek heavy, in the first series episode where Anthony Valentine wins big in a dodgy club. Is that true - they donlook a bit alike!
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Post by jno on Mar 25, 2024 21:20:08 GMT
I read somewhere that the actor who played Wally in this episode also played Ari, a Greek heavy, in the first series episode where Anthony Valentine wins big in a dodgy club. Is that true - they donlook a bit alike! I refer the honourable gentleman to the answer I gave some 8 years ago ... (see page 1 of this thread): minder.proboards.com/post/34524/thread
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Post by john on Mar 25, 2024 22:12:32 GMT
Thanks!
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