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Post by barrythebook on Jul 31, 2020 20:51:06 GMT
Talking Pictures TV has been repeating the offbeat 80s detective serial 'Bognor' in the small hours (not about the seaside resort but a slightly contrived set-up involving an investigator for the DTI). I've seem this on the listings but know nothing about it. Is it worth a watch ned?
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Post by ned on Jul 31, 2020 22:27:46 GMT
I think it was a bit of a flop and I can see why: a terrible title, overbearing music straight from an 80s electronic game and a curious choice of uncharismatic lead actor. But it's quirky, has some of the standard cast you'd expect from the era and is a bit different. The first story, about murders in a priory, sags in the middle and I think the second - which has echoes of Lytton's Diary being set on a gossip column - is stronger. I've found it a interesting little curio worth spending half an hour with.
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Post by Toecutter on Dec 10, 2020 20:10:25 GMT
Watching this again for the umpteenth time,just wondering what 'have a word' with Kevin meant,considering the treatment doled out to poor old Dafydd.Great episode ,plot holes you could drive a bus through notwithstanding.GC makes the episode for me.
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Post by barrythebook on Dec 10, 2020 22:08:18 GMT
just wondering what 'have a word' with Kevin meant,considering the treatment doled out to poor old Dafydd. Good point. Hopefully for Kevin it was a warning to pack up his arrows and leave but it could also have meant being taken out the back and being given a good kicking I suppose. Although, if Kevin was that good at the game, he may have had a backer there with him so could have had some company like Dafydd had Terry.
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Post by ned on Dec 11, 2020 23:11:29 GMT
Just read a news story about someone who woke up to find his Mercedes had been stripped down overnight, and my thoughts turned straight to this episode.
"In America, they call this a dude's car." "In England, they call it a bleedin' write-off."
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Post by gra966 on Dec 23, 2020 19:10:51 GMT
Watched this one , on You Tube last night , so here we go !
- I think I would have preferred the episode , to feature more of the dodgy deal with the Corvette & less of the darts . Most of the funniest scenes involved Arthur & this motor .
- I found it a bit difficult to take seriously , that several young kids managed to remove all four wheels , of a car that size , without even jacking it up . They most certainly qualified for the Quick Fit apprentice ship scheme !!
- Arthur explains to Wally , that the gold MK2 Granada was his second car & he crashed it while " under the influence " , but appears to have got away with it . Surely Chisholm or Rycott , would have loved an opportunity to nick him for drink driving .
- Arthur hires a car to travel to the darts tournament in London , which we only see briefly in the dark . It looks like a white Vauxhall Royale or Senator . I find it hard to believe Arthur would drive something , that bore such a striking resemblance to a police car !!
- Ted was a great character , played brilliantly by Edward Peel , who we are more used to seeing in " senior boss " roles , in shows like Juliet Bravo & London s Burning . Another one that would have been good as a re occur ing character .
On the motors front , the Corvette has to be star of the show . When Ted & Terry turn up to rescue it , they use a huge Chevy tow truck , rather than Des s old Bedford . We eventually get to see Arthur s gold Granada , after it has been repaired , it has the reg MLP2V , a genuine London issue from June 1980 , so approx a year old at the time of filming . The thugs arrive at the darts tournament , in a 7 series Beemer .
Will still give the episode 8/10 , although by part3 , I was beginning to find the darts a bit tedious . Shame Jim Bowen couldn t have made a guest appearance , to liven things up !
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Post by rik42 on Feb 12, 2021 15:01:01 GMT
Man at bar: Watch the bookie, they call him the juggler Arthur: They used to call me the wizard of odds
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Post by ltd on Feb 14, 2021 21:12:20 GMT
- Arthur explains to Wally , that the gold MK2 Granada was his second car & he crashed it while " under the influence " , but appears to have got away with it . Surely Chisholm or Rycott , would have loved an opportunity to nick him for drink driving . He might have done a runner. I can think of two people of my acquaintance who pulled this particular stroke and got away with it. One of them even had the front to call the police and report his motor stolen after he'd ploughed into a lamp post. They knew he was was bullsh*tting them but couldn't prove it. Obviously there's nothing big or clever about doing this kind of thing but it does happen.
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Post by simonlotion on Apr 25, 2021 10:19:26 GMT
About 20 mins in as they enter the club for the first tournament a man in a blue jacket collects his empty pint pot and heads to the bar. Does anyone know if this is a cameo by someone famous from the time as he looks very familiar? I thought he might be a sports presenter or maybes a comedian. Possibly I'm completely wrong, as 'er indoors keeps telling me.
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Post by c79 on May 11, 2021 10:37:43 GMT
Just saw this for the first time since 1982. I agree there are some very dodgy darts actions, darts editing, and south London accents but some golden dialogue from GC: "If Bob Hope can do it for golf.." "You don't go round giving people money!" "Somebody up there likes me!" If DW's reply "Good job, cause no-one down here does!" is a genuine ad-lib, it's inspired.
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Post by 615 on Oct 11, 2021 18:59:16 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks that when Arthur turns the radio on in the Stingray, the music that plays sounds similar to the music played on 'Bullseye' when the contestants play the knockout rounds. Bullseye would have just about started when the episode was shown so would it be an in joke?
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Post by barrythebook on Oct 16, 2021 22:42:34 GMT
Am I the only one who thinks that when Arthur turns the radio on in the Stingray, the music that plays sounds similar to the music played on 'Bullseye' when the contestants play the knockout rounds. Bullseye would have just about started when the episode was shown so would it be an in joke? Now you mention it, i see the similarity yes - good spot
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Post by ned on Feb 13, 2022 11:27:28 GMT
It's really interesting to see the split in opinion on this episode. I'm not sure there's another one that is so 'Marmite' in its reaction. Personally, it's one of my absolute favourites. There are so many lovely little bits of dialogue and reaction in it.
"I'll get a maintenance check done on it" "Terry?" "What's wrong with Terry?" "All Terry does is give it a right-hander"
About the only thing it lacks is a bit of legover for Terry. Even Arthur's doing better in that respect than Tel in this one!
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Post by poppet2k22 on Aug 2, 2022 16:52:20 GMT
On tv now, does anyone know the two actors who played the two villains in the boozer as they both look familiar but IMDb doesn't seem to have them listed or at least I can't recognise them.
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Post by jno on Aug 3, 2022 5:03:47 GMT
On tv now, does anyone know the two actors who played the two villains in the boozer as they both look familiar but IMDb doesn't seem to have them listed or at least I can't recognise them. Do you mean the boozer south of the river or the two at the start in the boozer (Derek and Len) played by Gary Olsen and Jonathan Kydd?
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Post by poppet2k22 on Aug 3, 2022 13:14:42 GMT
I think there are three but the main bolshy one (brown suit) always seemed to have the same expression in whatever I saw him in and the one who does Dafydd's hand I recognise them but can't place them.
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Post by 615 on May 30, 2023 17:52:48 GMT
I seem to remember in an earlier episode with Des, he is talked about as being from Manchester (Arthur jibes at him about 'your lot have to get Jocks to score your goals'- probably a reference to a lot of Man Utd players being Scottish),yet Ted, introduced as his mate, is from Bradford. Could this be an in joke, bearing in mind George Layton hails from there in real life?
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Post by nationalpelmet on Jun 7, 2023 19:25:44 GMT
Stumbled on this episode on ITV4 recently. Only saw ten minutes when they go south for the darts. Certainly a bit of a tasty rumpus after the glove incident. Great episode 👍
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Post by metro1962 on Jun 7, 2023 20:02:13 GMT
The broken glass attached to the glove scene still makes me cringe everytime in this episode.🙈
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Post by geoffc on Aug 23, 2023 11:18:11 GMT
I think the episode works well - Yes there are some plot weaknesses, the kids couldn't have nicked the wheels without a jack but this can be overlooked. Sherry's flat on a sink estate looked horribly believable. Arthur dealing in a flash Yankee muscle car - anything for an earner, driving a beaten-up Ford Granada and down to his last grand yet still trying get money out of Sherry for "investments" aren't out of place. You would expect Arthur to be down on his luck from time to time. I assume his regular business is the car dealership - the rest of his income is highly irregular and opportunistic - so likely to go Pete Tong every now and then. Quintessential Arthur - juggling several plates at once - the purchase and sale of the Corvette, repairing the Granada on tick, dealing with the videos stuck in Holland and promoting his darts - conning all and sundry, welching on his debts and poncing cash from his friends. Terry had the perfect quip in summary - "Nobody likes you down here" .The Dafydd character was quiet, reticent and unassuming - hard to play in the company of larger than life regulars. I agree it was a bit implausible for someone like that to be found playing darts in a tough London boozer but that didn't spoil the plot. The get-out-of-jail bet against Dafydd was £250 at 15/2 so enough to cover the event. Perhaps the script missed a trick by not having Arthur put Dafydd off "accidentally" during the competition - knock his arm or call his name at an inopportune moment - the reason becoming clear at the end. Terry caught Arthur smiling as Dafydd lost - and quickly changing his expression once noticed. Great closing scene - as Arthur begins waxing lyrical about the life of the risk taking entrepreneur, Terry and Dafydd slope off. And satisfyingly the truly nasty piece of work got a good spanking . I'll go 4/5.
Who was the actress who played the part of the car parts shop assistant ? - on screen right at the start of part 2. She had a line of dialogue which normally gets you a cast credit - but she's not listed anywhere that I can see. Terry must be wishing he hadn't been interrupted by Wally.
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Post by pr1 on Jan 22, 2024 1:32:56 GMT
Watched this again tonight. Still highly enjoyable.
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