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Post by jno on Feb 17, 2015 9:33:31 GMT
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Post by garytomo on Aug 16, 2015 18:52:55 GMT
Brilliant episode this. In my top five.
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Post by daz on Oct 22, 2015 8:52:54 GMT
Another quality episode with Arthur at his dodgy best.
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Post by Celvin on Dec 13, 2015 21:36:24 GMT
Enjoyable episode but Arthur being 'skint' is a little hard to swallow. Daffyd's darts action is horrible too!
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Post by barrythebook on Dec 13, 2015 22:06:18 GMT
Enjoyable episode but Arthur being 'skint' is a little hard to swallow. Daffyd's darts action is horrible too! I didn't like seeing Arthur with money troubles either - didn't suit the concept of the programme at all.
I always found the ending a little baffling too. I can't remember the exact figures off the top of my head but I know that every time I watch this one, I work out how much Arthur won on the darts tournament, how much he already owed and by the time he'd settled up with everyone he wouldn't have very much left over,however Arthur acts like a man who's escaped the hangmans noose and all his money troubles are over.
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Post by VAT on Jan 11, 2016 18:47:06 GMT
Enjoyable episode but Arthur being 'skint' is a little hard to swallow. Daffyd's darts action is horrible too! I didn't like seeing Arthur with money troubles either - didn't suit the concept of the programme at all. Fully agree BTB, I also don't like seeing Arthur on his uppers, as in some of the later Terry eps. Much prefer to see him with a few quid in his pocket, a full lock up, Terry employed on one of his scams and Arthur developing new ones
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Post by daytona355 on Jan 11, 2016 20:06:59 GMT
I thought this one was fun, but every time it's shown on tv, they have less of the scene with Terry teaching the 'Richardson clones' from sarf of the river a lesson. Seeing Arthur skint is a nawse, but then, we get to see just how creative he can get to turn a shilling.
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Post by pr1 on Apr 17, 2016 16:22:37 GMT
Arthur Daley being skint puts him in full throttle scam master mode! I founds this episode highly enjoyable! It was fun seeing Arthur trying to run so many dodgy deals at the same time.
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Post by daz on Apr 17, 2016 19:41:25 GMT
Couldn't agree more PR1. When Arthur is short of a few bob, you know someone is going to suffer at the hands of a classic Daley scam!
it wouldn't have been the same if we didn't see him on his uppers from time to time.
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Post by pr1 on Apr 17, 2016 19:59:49 GMT
Couldn't agree more PR1. When Arthur is short of a few bob, you know someone is going to suffer at the hands of a classic Daley scam! it wouldn't have been the same if we didn't see him on his uppers from time to time. I thought it fit the character. With all his shady dealings they can't always pay off big.
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Post by camandbert on Jun 23, 2016 22:40:23 GMT
Jonathan Kydd, who plays one of the two men in the pub at the start of this episode, is the son of the actor Sam Kydd who, in one of his last roles played Sid, a car dealer friend of Rose Mellors, in Diamonds Are a Girl's Worst Enemy in Series 2. Sam will be well known to fans of British films, particularly of the 50’s and 60’s, indeed it almost seemed as if it were a legal requirement that such films featured him in some minor role! Are there any other parent/child connections in terms of people who have appeared in the series?
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Post by gustav on Jun 24, 2016 0:04:43 GMT
Sam Kydd was in everything for decades. I didn't know he had a son who was an actor.
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Post by jno on Jun 24, 2016 1:27:13 GMT
Are there any other parent/child connections in terms of people who have appeared in the series? Two that I can think of - Patrick & Michael Troughton, Tony & Susannah & Doyle.
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 26, 2016 19:42:40 GMT
Jonathan Kydd, who plays one of the two men in the pub at the start of this episode, is the son of the actor Sam Kydd who, in one of his last roles played Sid, a car dealer friend of Rose Mellors, in Diamonds Are a Girl's Worst Enemy in Series 2. Sam will be well known to fans of British films, particularly of the 50’s and 60’s, indeed it almost seemed as if it were a legal requirement that such films featured him in some minor role! Are there any other parent/child connections in terms of people who have appeared in the series? Interesting anecdote c and d. I watch the TalkingPictures channel quite a lot and Sam Kydd, as you say, was on many, many films through the 50s and 60s. Did his son have much of an acting career? He did have a small role in a Professionals episode iirc.
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Post by jno on Jun 27, 2016 6:45:47 GMT
Did his son have much of an acting career? www.jonathankydd.com/He seems quite active doing all sorts of stuff. Good on him.
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 28, 2016 19:09:26 GMT
Blimey - he has been busy.
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Post by jno on Aug 14, 2016 17:59:39 GMT
Blimey - he has been busy. Slightly OT but a little bit on Sam Kydd and Jonathan Kydd from TV TIMES May 1978:
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Post by Zimbo on Jan 12, 2017 0:20:54 GMT
This is a really good episode with some good humour. Dave's face when Arthur is explaining the "Dartagnan" meaning is a picture. Michael Graham Cox (the Ron Atkinson lookalike) played the corrupt inspector in the final series of The Gentle Touch.
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Post by gustav on Jan 14, 2017 13:11:16 GMT
I've just noticed that Sam was being a bit economical with the truth with the TV Times regarding his age. Since he was born in 1915 he was 63 not 56 in May 1978.
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Post by pr1 on Sept 24, 2017 21:28:49 GMT
As an American it's a bit amusing to see Darts treated as a big deal. Just a difference between two countries. This episode is jam packed with greatness even by the high standards of Minder. I like how Arthur is in full scam mode, trying to keep juggling several shady deals at the same time. I laughed out loud when Arthur refers to the Inland Revenue as "Her majesty's mafia." Another great episode in a great year of a great show.
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Post by jno on Sept 25, 2017 1:17:48 GMT
As an American it's a bit amusing to see Darts treated as a big deal. Just a difference between two countries. This episode is jam packed with greatness even by the high standards of Minder. I like how Arthur is in full scam mode, trying to keep juggling several shady deals at the same time. I laughed out loud when Arthur refers to the Inland Revenue as "Her majesty's mafia." Another great episode in a great year of a great show. I think it's fair to say darts on TV was really taking off at the time when this was first broadcast, with it all over the BBC in an era when there were only four channels. Small number of channels = maximum exposure. Snooker was the same - arguably two big 'sports' that took off on UK 80s TV via two big sport shows: 'Grandstand' and 'World of Sport'. Darts has gone on to be massive these days. There are so many superb turns of phrase in Minder week in week out that half of 'em you forget about.
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Post by pr1 on Sept 25, 2017 2:22:12 GMT
As an American it's a bit amusing to see Darts treated as a big deal. Just a difference between two countries. This episode is jam packed with greatness even by the high standards of Minder. I like how Arthur is in full scam mode, trying to keep juggling several shady deals at the same time. I laughed out loud when Arthur refers to the Inland Revenue as "Her majesty's mafia." Another great episode in a great year of a great show. I think it's fair to say darts on TV was really taking off at the time when this was first broadcast, with it all over the BBC in an era when there were only four channels. Small number of channels = maximum exposure. Snooker was the same - arguably two big 'sports' that took off on UK 80s TV via two big sport shows: 'Grandstand' and 'World of Sport'. Darts has gone on to be massive these days. There are so many superb turns of phrase in Minder week in week out that half of 'em you forget about. I can understand how Darts and Snooker, or Pool, would work well on tv.
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Post by chuckles123 on Nov 10, 2017 21:23:43 GMT
The bit I liked on this episode was when Terry was having a punch up in pub Arthur opens door see it then closes door his face expression in it was magic
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Post by ltd on Nov 12, 2017 18:11:09 GMT
Michael Graham Cox (the Ron Atkinson lookalike) played the corrupt inspector in the final series of The Gentle Touch. He was also the voice of warrior-stoic rabbit Bigwig in the film of Watership Down. Plus voiced the similar character Boromir in Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings Film - discussed elsewhere on this forum.
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Post by thewoodster on Jan 30, 2018 10:20:54 GMT
Just watching this episode on ITV4, mornings don't get any better than this, especially when it's one of the finest episodes.
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Post by westldner on Apr 21, 2018 13:45:29 GMT
I know this seem opposite to what's been said around here but as much as I really loved the episode and what it's trying to explain, I actually thought the idea of the car being the cause of Daley's misfortune was beyond my belief. Daley is mature enough to understand that he was taking a flash vehicle like the Stingray and leaving it anywhere would attract loads of attention. Now a days, people react to people having flash vehicles when it's not locked away in some garage, even a few years ago, someone dented one of those really flash exotic supercars and it was caught on hidden car, so I find it really hard to believe Daley would leave it around. Maybe that's the joke and why it is funny considering Terry noticed why Daley went on the de-tour in the first place. It was extremely silly in my opinion considering that back then, even a block of flash shiny gold brick around laying around, it would have been stolen. I think even the character knew better. That's why I found it so hard to believe. Not saying that it could happen. Maybe Daley had too much to drink and didn't think it would happen to him but still... something as big as that. Really hard to believe in my opinion.
... but having said that... especially considering that George Cole did say that he never liked the character in his autobiography and I'm pointing that out also in this case for this episode about my reaction to his character. That's make me wonder why the writers and production crew went to such lengths to create, in my opinion such a ridiculous scene and the idea behind it and back to the original street pub feel that Minder is known for which really placed Daley out of his comfort zone. At one point, he even says "I've never been a grand down in my life!". I was rather shocked about that also!
I did laugh and get relieved with the ending but I was more relieved but that scared me! I'm not being sarcastic but I don't want to ever be in Arthur Daley's shoes if that happened! Thankfully all the other episodes don't have that one scene like that. Really makes me wonder!
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Post by gustav on Jul 16, 2018 13:14:00 GMT
Watched this on ITV4 and thought it was excellent. I don't think I had ever properly appreciated it before. Arthur is truly dodgy in this .
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Post by thewoodster on Jul 18, 2018 8:48:25 GMT
Watched this on ITV4 and thought it was excellent. I don't think I had ever properly appreciated it before. Arthur is truly dodgy in this . Dodgy at its best gustav..lol
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Post by ace5150 on Sept 17, 2018 17:30:56 GMT
Watched today. George Cole made this episode with his mannerisms. The Welsh actor was poor, he looked like a fish out of water and his dart throwing action was dire. I liked Ted, the teddy boy, made a change from Des who gets on my nerves at times. Terry shouting "up the Celts!" and "Go on, my son!" gets tedious.......as were the crowd singing "Big Brian will do it!" 6/10 from me.
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Post by barrythebook on Sept 17, 2018 22:23:56 GMT
The Welsh actor was poor, he looked like a fish out of water and his dart throwing action was dire. ....and the editing to show the darts landing in the Bullseye were even worse.
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