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Post by jno on Aug 3, 2015 7:23:10 GMT
I was pretty sad to hear this yesterday - a stalwart of 80s and 90s TV and I remember watching Surprise Surprise with my mum as a kid where she would reunite family members that had lost contact for many years. I wasn't particularly fussed on Blind Date but she did seem a genuinely nice down to earth celeb.
RIP Cilla
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Post by felixdeburgh on Aug 3, 2015 9:26:12 GMT
An outstanding singer who unfortunately is remembered more for her TV appearances rather than her singing career.
RIP.
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Post by garytomo on Aug 3, 2015 9:59:31 GMT
Another 80s icon and someone who brings memories of good times back, gone. Really lined Cilla she will be missed. RIP Our Cilla!!
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Post by plasticpenguin on Aug 3, 2015 10:46:57 GMT
An outstanding singer who unfortunately is remembered more for her TV appearances rather than her singing career. RIP. Most of her singng career is lost on the younger generation. She started out under Epstein's guidance and was a part of the Cavern club crew. Many impersonators, only one Cilla. RIP Ms White. |
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Post by dscarter1975 on Aug 3, 2015 11:26:27 GMT
I remember the weekends back in the '80s when my mum and my sister would watch Blind Date and Surprise Surprise. My brother told me about the time Cilla cracked a joke about Liverpool being better than Man Utd when Alex Ferguson made a guest appearance.
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Post by ace5150 on Aug 3, 2015 14:59:10 GMT
Tax exile. Her mate Ken Dodd taught her how to avoid paying her way.
Her dad who was a leading light in the dockers strike would be shocked at her avoiding paying tax......noboy likes paying it but when they need the NHS or want the police to catch crims that has to be paid for by hardworking Joe Bloggs taxes whilst she ponces off to Spain.
She was one of them strange group of old women who choose to hang about with the gays (see Barbara Windsor and Nancy Dell'Olio amongst others) for years this puzzled me. Then one day I figured it out. It's because they are too unpleasant to have any female friends and are forced to hang about with Gentlemen light in the Loafer, because they tend to be just as obnoxious (see Dale Winton and Cliff Richard*, amongst others) oh, and catty as well.
She made her name doing second rate cover Versions of Bacharach and David Songs. Interesting fact, Dionne Warwick always called her 'That bloody Women' You're my World is a great Record to be fair. But it is the performance of Johnny Pearson and his Orchestra, along with the George Martin's Production that make it great. Frankly I could have performed the vocals.
Her Television work was perfectly suited to her utterly false and warm persona. Sugary, smaltzy Bo**ocks that made her look like a working class girl done good, who was still 'one of us' at heart. Utter bilge, but millions of people lapped it up. She must have kissed her own @rse. She was washed up as a singer by about 1967 and yet remained in the public Eye for nearly 50 more Years.
Finally, like they do every time some UK "showbiz celebrity" shuffles off, I see they wheeled out Brucie and Tarby to pay tribute with their anecdotes and reminiscences. I always wonder who will do the same for them when they finally turn their toes up - if they ever do.
*allegedly
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Post by dscarter1975 on Aug 3, 2015 17:12:50 GMT
You've got everything right off your chest there, ace5150. Personally, I wasn't a right big fan of hers but she was a TV superstar for the best part of the '80s and early '90s. She knew how to grab your attention, but at least she was no Jimmy Saville...
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Post by Arch Stanton on Aug 3, 2015 17:32:27 GMT
Tax exile. Her mate Ken Dodd taught her how to avoid paying her way. Her dad who was a leading light in the dockers strike would be shocked at her avoiding paying tax......noboy likes paying it but when they need the NHS or want the police to catch crims that has to be paid for by hardworking Joe Bloggs taxes whilst she ponces off to Spain. She was one of them strange group of old women who choose to hang about with the gays (see Barbara Windsor and Nancy Dell'Olio amongst others) for years this puzzled me. Then one day I figured it out. It's because they are too unpleasant to have any female friends and are forced to hang about with Gentlemen light in the Loafer, because they tend to be just as obnoxious (see Dale Winton and Cliff Richard*, amongst others) oh, and catty as well. She made her name doing second rate cover Versions of Bacharach and David Songs. Interesting fact, Dionne Warwick always called her 'That bloody Women' You're my World is a great Record to be fair. But it is the performance of Johnny Pearson and his Orchestra, along with the George Martin's Production that make it great. Frankly I could have performed the vocals. Her Television work was perfectly suited to her utterly false and warm persona. Sugary, smaltzy Bo**ocks that made her look like a working class girl done good, who was still 'one of us' at heart. Utter bilge, but millions of people lapped it up. She must have kissed her own @rse. She was washed up as a singer by about 1967 and yet remained in the public Eye for nearly 50 more Years. Finally, like they do every time some UK "showbiz celebrity" shuffles off, I see they wheeled out Brucie and Tarby to pay tribute with their anecdotes and reminiscences. I always wonder who will do the same for them when they finally turn their toes up - if they ever do. *allegedly Ace, are you really Katie Hopkins in disguise??  |
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Post by ace5150 on Aug 3, 2015 17:47:35 GMT
Not at all, just hate the false outpouring of grief over a has-been that had very little talent. My best friend is a scouser and attests she wasn't welcome in Liverpool since relocating to Buckingham years ago.
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Post by flyingsquad on Aug 3, 2015 18:00:27 GMT
Not at all, just hate the false outpouring of grief over a has-been that had very little talent. My best friend is a scouser and attests she wasn't welcome in Liverpool since relocating to Buckingham years ago. I have heard that a lot of Liverpool people didn't like her as she didn't go back to visit unlike other people from Liverpool who became successful and left Liverpool but would go back to visit. I wasn't a fan of hers but I do have sympathy for her family and friends. I don't know why Cheryl Fernandez-Versini or whatever she calls herself this week had to come out and show her grief publicly. Even worse was Piers Morgan giving a gushing tribute as if he was a close pal of Cilla. |
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Post by ace5150 on Aug 3, 2015 18:26:54 GMT
I think the ONLY genuine sympathy message was from another talentless z-lister, Amanda Holden, who was a contestant on Blind Date that got Les Dennis drooling. He got a date, she saw an opportunity to climb socially and to nab a two-bob career at the same time.
If not for Blind Date, she'd probably still be a dental nurse or cashier at Tesco or whatever she was doing prior to Blind Date.
Apparently her TV career was destroyed because she had been highly unpleasant to one of the runners on Blind Date. When this person reached a position of seniority he made sure that Cilla wasn't going to get any more TV work.
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Post by garytomo on Aug 3, 2015 19:33:51 GMT
In Liverpool right now the Town hall flag is at half-mast and a book of condolences has been opened. That shows what Liverpool thinks of her. Now really isn't the time to be slating her no matter what she has done she has died at a fairly early period of life these days and her and her family deserve respect.
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Post by dscarter1975 on Aug 3, 2015 20:06:10 GMT
Well said, Gary. It wasn't so long ago that her husband Bobby had passed away.
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Post by jno on Aug 3, 2015 20:34:30 GMT
In fairness I didn't know this stuff ace, but it seems she did have a 'lorra' folks who liked her and this is worthy of a bit of respect despite her not paying her way with the tax man and some in Liverpool that don't like her. I think the thing people liked about her was an on screen "warmth", she seemed pretty down to earth on screen but I must confess, I was not really into her singing at all.
I would rather watch her doing her thing on "Surprise Surprise" than anything with Alan Carr or Keith Lemon in it today - her singing might have been poor but she was streets ahead as a presenter over these two muppets. 'Surprise Surprise' had lots of nice bits in it, and Cilla was very good at pretending she knew nothing about till the end of the show. When she started singing the feem toon though, well, that was bad even back in the day.
I would agree with your comments on Piers Morgan and Amanda Holden though - ok, they might have liked watching Cilla as much as anyone who liked Surprise Surprise but they are both pretty talentless individuals who would be best off keeping quiet.
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Post by flyingsquad on Aug 3, 2015 20:36:40 GMT
I agree with what you said jno.
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Post by Portland Road on Aug 8, 2015 6:58:37 GMT
I didn't watch 'Surprise Surprise' or 'Blind Date'. IIRC it was quite something for her to get these shows at the time (mid 80s). Because, at this stage, she was a 60s singer whose previous TV career had ended nearly a decade before.
It was in her period presenting BBC light entertainment shows (1970s) that I first knew her in childhood.
I got to know her singing career retrospectively. Like Lulu, it could be here & there.
Personally, being a fan of the powerful 60s MOR sound, I liked quite a lot of the songs. Though whether this was down to the production, rather than Cilla, I wouldn't like to say. E.g. could Sandie Shaw have sang 'Conversations'? Very probably 
Interesting points, Ace. A bit sharp but I think there are some truths in what you said. Perhaps I wouldn't have put it so succinctly.
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Post by gustav on Aug 14, 2015 22:07:38 GMT
Some harsh things said about Cilla on this thread which I don't think she deserves. I didn't like Surprise Surprise or Blind Date but Cilla was a big star with her own show on the BBC in the 70s. More importantly she was a great singer in the 60s, part of the whole Merseybeat thing, she would deserve to be remembered for that if nothing else. The series with Sheridan Smith in was an excellent and deserved presentation of her early career. The fact that the media latches on to endless crowds of rent a quote luvvies at such times is not the fault of the deceased!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2015 9:43:44 GMT
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Post by garytomo on Aug 15, 2015 11:56:49 GMT
See scum have tried to break into her house knowing the family aren't there. Despicable!! Shame they didn't get in and there were two big Rottweillers waiting in ambush which instead of barking said 'surprise surprise!!'
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Post by ace5150 on Aug 15, 2015 12:19:55 GMT
Happens a lot now. Funeral notices in local papers means chancers KNOW the place will be empty. Despicable |
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Post by plasticpenguin on Aug 16, 2015 21:04:11 GMT
Rather like this.
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Post by Portland Road on Aug 18, 2015 7:02:01 GMT
I liked that as well. It was shown on a BBC4 tribute 9pm Sunday 16 Aug.
Well worth a watch. Shows how on 60s & 70s TV the act performed their songs un-cluttered.
Giving space for the viewer to make their own judgement whether it was good or not. |
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Post by gustav on Aug 21, 2015 23:06:56 GMT
Great clip. Thanks.
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Post by plasticpenguin on Aug 21, 2015 23:13:01 GMT
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 23, 2018 0:42:49 GMT
The young girl from Scottie road Liverpool,who ended up highest paid female on television
Friends with the Beatles,Gerry and the pacemakers and all the Mersey beat scene.
And what a voice in her younger days
Rip cilla.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2018 18:55:27 GMT
I remember where I was when I heard Cilla had died, by our pool at our villa in Cyprus and the temperature was 42 degrees C.  |
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 23, 2018 23:11:59 GMT
On form again mias,your on fire this week..lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 9:44:31 GMT
On form again mias,your on fire this week..lol I was on fire mate! That Cypriot sun was cooking! |
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Post by westldner on Feb 28, 2018 5:36:18 GMT
RIP to cilla indeed. I saw her on that dating show Surprise Surprise when I was growing up since my mother used to tune it to watch that. I never knew her as a singer in the 60s. RIP, surely he had a great life.
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