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Post by jno on Feb 14, 2016 6:40:26 GMT
Suggested by: wayne2467Two sites where no doubt many of have purchased a few items, but which do you prefer and why? You may wish to consider ... which has the better range of products, customer service or which would you rather (if any) contribute to the profits of? Note to KarinB and Arch Stanton: not a single music nor female of the week connotation on offer here, so please update tracking statistics.
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Post by Arch Stanton on Feb 14, 2016 10:39:10 GMT
Note to KarinB and Arch Stanton: not a single music nor female of the week connotation on offer here, so please update tracking statistics. Hmmm... This is a tricky one. I buy all my Nik Kershaw records off Amazon and all my signed glamour model pics from ebay! Actually I rarely use Ebay. Whereas I have about 1500 items in my Amazon wishlist!! I buy off them all the time and never seem to put a dent in it. As for Amazon's shady profits/tax avoidance I think it's a bit w**kerish of them but I still keep buying cheap stuff off them. Actually I rarely buy anything off Amazon themselves, it's usually just private sellers.
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Post by Terry on Feb 14, 2016 10:41:53 GMT
Definitely depends on the product. Normally I prefer Amazon anytime, no question, because they offer great service. But when a product is more expensive there I also turn to ebay, but this is always only Plan B.
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Post by ace5150 on Feb 14, 2016 11:21:42 GMT
I sell a lot of signed glamour model pics on eBay, but not on Amazon. Hmmmm, tricky one. I have made a good few quid off mug punters on eBay, so I won't knock it, I have also sourced some uber rare punk stuff from eBay as well. EBay DOES offer protection for scam artists as well. Overall, it's EBay for me, BUT I do use Amazon a lot. I used to use Play.com a lot, not been there in 18+ months
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Post by jno on Feb 14, 2016 15:52:35 GMT
I chose ebay as they sell stuff I want which is simply not available on Amazon. That said, price wise compared to the high street, Amazon do have competitive prices and a very nice search facility. Although ebay has been hacked, I think Amazon's security is probably not as good with their click thorugh make it too easy to buy something when it really isn't you. That said, it hasn't happened to me yet, but I voted ebay.
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Post by daytona355 on Feb 14, 2016 17:48:26 GMT
Difficult, but I hear karinB only sells her photos through official sources like Amazon!
eBay is funny though, you can sell any old tat, and it goes for big bucks. When you try to sell something sensible and think it's worth some money, you get muppets trying to buy it for 99p!
Bought some shoes once in a sale for £10 at Ciro citterio in the mall, and a few months later, and couple of wears, decided to sell them, expecting to get £2 or so. They were bid up to £65, and the guy paid extra to post to New Zealand (£17 I think it was).
Did t think much of it, but then a few months later get a message through from him, thanking me for the shoes and especially as he could still smell my feet in them! I was sooooooooo violated and sickened! Still, £65!
When er indoors sells any clothing on there, I take a pic of her wearring it, never fails! Mini skirt 99p, pervos buying cos of the pic, £20! Every time!
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Post by mrschisholm on Feb 14, 2016 17:48:38 GMT
Ebay for me. I sell there a lot, although I buy from both at times. Ebay has the more niche stuff which is great. My best profit ever was a 50cent bakelite bangle that I sold for over $900 to a lady at a Park Avenue address -- that was ages ago though.
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Post by ace5150 on Feb 14, 2016 19:19:46 GMT
When er indoors sells any clothing on there, I take a pic of her wearring it, never fails! Mini skirt 99p, pervos buying cos of the pic, £20! Every time! Ker-ching! Fair play sir! I thought it was just me who could sniff out mug punters!
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Post by Arch Stanton on Feb 14, 2016 19:51:20 GMT
Did t think much of it, but then a few months later get a message through from him, thanking me for the shoes and especially as he could still smell my feet in them! I was sooooooooo violated and sickened! Still, £65! Sounds like a shoo-in re: profit making... I'd have sold him my entire sock drawer if he'd of wanted it! Buy some new pairs of socks with the profits
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Post by daytona355 on Feb 14, 2016 22:59:08 GMT
It was tempting!
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Post by jno on Feb 15, 2016 4:55:17 GMT
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Post by daytona355 on Feb 15, 2016 8:06:13 GMT
Hahahaha, I must try that!
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Post by daytona355 on Feb 15, 2016 19:18:45 GMT
eBay, the glamour photos nabbed it!
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Post by ace5150 on Feb 15, 2016 19:28:54 GMT
eBay, the glamour photos nabbed it! My next lot go up Thursday for a 3 day sale!
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Post by daytona355 on Feb 15, 2016 19:49:38 GMT
Awesome....... Any previews? jno won't mind.
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Post by ace5150 on Feb 15, 2016 20:11:05 GMT
I will pm you both. Mias might actually reply!
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Post by jno on Feb 15, 2016 21:09:37 GMT
Awesome....... Any previews? jno won't mind.
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Post by daytona355 on Feb 15, 2016 22:55:39 GMT
I will pm you both. Mias might actually reply! I always reply to PMs, even if they aren't about glamour pics!
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Post by daytona355 on Feb 15, 2016 22:56:26 GMT
I will pm you both. Mias might actually reply! I always reply to PMs, even if they aren't about glamour pics! Look at jno being all coy! Hehehehe,
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Post by jno on Feb 16, 2016 4:21:30 GMT
This topic has veered very much down the 'off' path, so please could we steer it back towards 'on'.
What about Amazon Prime? Hit or miss? Personally I can't see me EVER subscribing to pay Jeremy Clarkson's wages or paying for ultimate 'online shopping loyalty' to just one site. Like Netflix, their online visual content doesn't whet my appetite enough to hand over readies on a monthly basis.
As too many 'new' series are complete tosh I'm not really that interested and just too tight to want to part with folding for such like. Personally I get more enjoyment discovering old film & TV far more than new vampire related nonsense which is what always seems to be used to flog new series. I'd rather try an old ex-rental VHS film from the early 80s than subscribe monthly to new content. With the DVD mountain I have here surely it makes sense to watch what I have decided I like already rather than pay for a load of stuff I won't watch. If I don't have it, am I really going to miss it?
Example - I have 'Sky Atlantic' where I am. Sky sell this as blockbuster US content. I don't think I've watched a single show on there. The channel that gets the biggest thumbsup from me is 'Talking Pictures' - essentially old films that 'speak for themselves' in terms of quality. I would also trust the trusted review team brethren on here: mias, ace5150, barrythebook, Sir Stanton, felixdeburgh and of course dscarter1975 more than Amazon or Netflix marketing to tell me what is and what isn't worth a watch in an evening.
As for eBay - I really LOVED it when they had a 10% off day.
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Post by daytona355 on Feb 16, 2016 7:28:37 GMT
I have Amazon prime, I don't know how or why, or where I paid for it, but I have it, and it is good as it seems everything is extra quick, and I get DVDs the day BEFORE they are on general sale it seems. As for the tv, I agree completely, none of the online streaming stuff has any appeal at all, I did trial Netflix for a couple days a few years ago, and there was nothing worth watching on it. However, I will get a fire stick to watch clarkson and co go racist on Amazon in the autumn, can't help myself!
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Post by wayne2467 on Feb 16, 2016 15:15:21 GMT
I buy quite a lot of stuff of Amazon and less on eBay. The things I buy tend to be cheaper on Amazon than eBay. Maybe eBAy sellers have become greedy? Also I like reading through the reviews on Amazon regarding the products. Great customer service from Amazon regarding g returns and money back as well. It's more difficult on eBay to send things back and arguments can then take place.
I did get fleeced once on eBay, nothing major (about £25) and they were pretty prompt paying me back. I did recently buy some items on eBay though but overall it's Amazon for me.
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Post by jno on Feb 16, 2016 16:34:58 GMT
eBay is nasty for sellers. Their fees are top dollar these days compared to what they used to be. There are of course other alternatives to ebay - what's everyone top recommendation here?
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Post by jno on Feb 16, 2016 21:16:55 GMT
What about ebid? I've used them once or twice but they seem to think I am international cyber criminal just because I try to buy something in the UK while sitting on a PC in Austria. Here the locals have willhaben.at - it's free and more local than ebay which is why ebay isn't as popular with the locals imho. As for a 'sitting on the fence' option, sorry mias it's not possible to add this once the vote has started. All I can do is remove and restart - that's the way it is unfortunately.
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Post by plasticpenguin on Feb 17, 2016 1:37:02 GMT
Neither. Have purchased from Fleabay (occasional CD, DVD or book). Avoid Amazon: Lot of the stuff offered can be purchased as cheap elsewhere.
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Post by KarinB on Feb 17, 2016 2:49:21 GMT
I buy quite a lot of stuff of Amazon and less on eBay. The things I buy tend to be cheaper on Amazon than eBay. Maybe eBAy sellers have become greedy? Also I like reading through the reviews on Amazon regarding the products. Great customer service from Amazon regarding g returns and money back as well. It's more difficult on eBay to send things back and arguments can then take place. I did get fleeced once on eBay, nothing major (about £25) and they were pretty prompt paying me back. I did recently buy some items on eBay though but overall it's Amazon for me. Your avatar pic moved and gave me quite a surprise wayne2467. I was reading your post, then out of the corner of my eye saw 'Terry' move ! Anyway looking at my buying history I buy more on ebay than Amazon. The postage seems to be cheaper on ebay for me, as ebay Aust. is available. I also like second hand books online but I use book sites for those and buy too many. It is quite true that the way you present an item for sale will determine who buys it as mentioned earlier. The shoe story was gross but good money made ! Despite the fact that I love old cars and retro music I really don't like buying other people's clothes off ebay, even if they say they are new. Unlike some 'dodgy' buyers if I see someone's legs in a skirt for sale I don't want to buy it. This thread makes me wonder if people here buy 'real' books still or use kindles... maybe a question for another day. I certainly wouldn't want to lead the thread off topic. (I just put this question on the reading thread)
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Post by jno on Feb 17, 2016 4:46:11 GMT
Yep wayne's avatar is from the episode 'Looking For Micky' where Terry goes up against Freddie Baker - "I'll claim that Baker" says Terry - definitely one you should check out Karin, it's superb. I agree with you on old clothes, I don't think I'd go there either. Which reminds me, swap your old clothes for goldfish like in Minder too... www.minder.org/episodeguide/S02E13_CaughtInTheActFact.htm
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Post by daytona355 on Feb 17, 2016 7:39:49 GMT
Hi karin, I'm definitely in the 'real books' thread, just can't get into reading books on an iPad or kindle, much rather have a book and turn pages myself, and enjoy looking through a collection that I've built up over the years and pick out favourites occasionally
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Post by mybodyguard on Feb 17, 2016 16:06:34 GMT
I can't vote because I am 50/50 on this one. I agree. This is a tough choice. I have extensive history with both. I've been ordering from Amazon probably since the late 90's, and I began using ebay in 1997, about a year after they started as ebay online auctions in '96. I remember when you could leave feedback for anyone, even those you never had deals with. Lots of feedback abuse in those early days! I remember telling everyone who was anyone that ebay was here to stay and that if they ever sold stock, to buy up. I remember I was going to put a substantial amount of money down on ebay stock when it was announced they were going public. I was also saving for a house with my wife, so she wasn't so keen on giving up our house down payment, so I canceled my appointment with the stock broker literally at the last minute. That was a mistake, as the stock went through the roof and split within it's first few months. I would have tripled my money! Ebay has done well, especially after partnering with paypal. Their one major blunder was when they had a sister site called half.com. It was a set price site for used music, books, and movies. Out of nowhere, they announced that half.com was only going to sell textbooks for students, and no longer carrying music or movies. The site tanked after that, and I believe they tried to go back to movies and CDs, but it was too late. The site that was once well known and gaining popularity soon after inception, is now unknown to most. This indirectly flooded the Amazon.com used market for cds and DVDs. Prior to half.com changing what they sell, the used sellers on amazon were primarily normal people selling off their unwanted items. After the half.com change, thousands of business sellers who specialized in music and dvds flooded amazon.com's 3rd party seller listings. It quickly became 95% business sellers and you really have to hunt to find the real people just selling off their barely played DVD or CD. This drove the used CD and DVD prices down to the ground, where you'd have several items sold for .01 and the only way sellers actually made money was the small profit over of what they paid to ship the item, as opposed to what Amazon automatically charged for the flat shipping rate. Amazon used to be easier to sell our odds and ends we didn't want any more, but then they enforced providing your social security number for tax purposes, even if you didn't have that many transactions per year (they say you had to hit a certain number, but still ask you for your tax information). AmazonPros: -excellent customer service -many different shipping options, including my favorite, the free super saver shipping (have to buy $35 worth of stuff) -nearly everything is found on this site (food, electronics, household supplies, contractor supplies, etc, etc) in new or used condition. -easy return policy Cons: -flooded 3rd party market (new and used) -you have to be careful of third party sellers; lots of them and many with horrible feedback; I advise to only buy if it says "fulfilled through amazon", this way you are backed by Amazon for returns and issues, otherwise, you have to deal directly with the 3rd party seller. -after many, many years and experience of shipping millions of items out to customers, they still have the utmost worst packing ability. High end electronic items come unprotected in boxes too big for the items, and many more things I've received were just atrociously protected and packaged. I don't buy any electronic or fragile items from amazon due to this reason. -Not easy for the normal person to just sell a used thing or two on the site; caters mostly to large business store sellers now EbayPros: -Easy to sell anything you want on there, whether you have a big ebay store, or you're just someone who sells one or two things here and there. -Easy to find nearly anything in existence here. -Good gauge to check what antiques, collectibles, etc are commanding in price (by checking last 60 days of what an item sells for). -You can find both auctions (where you can get things for a steal if no one else bids) and set price listings. -Lots of sellers offer free shipping now. - Easy to find items not found in your home country. Cons: -Nearly all issues with transactions favor the buyer. (This is a con if you're a seller, pro if you're a buyer) -New sellers cannot get their money instantly until they've become established. -Feedback can only be left by buyer for seller, but not vice versa; buyers can use this as a bargaining chip to get what they want. -Be careful of sellers with bad feedback and/or drop sellers (they don't actually have any product but list 50,000 items and may actually drop ship through Amazon).
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Post by Portland Road on Feb 19, 2016 10:21:19 GMT
I use both, but have tended to prefer Amazon. I usually check prices of comparable products on both, then make my decision. Not just on price, but on whether the seller seems a trustworthy source, has good feedback etc. I use 'Free Super Saver' delivery on Amazon when possible, because most items are non-urgent. As I write, an independent courier has just delivered a new door handle from Amazon. A few years ago the relevant one was plentifully stocked in local DIY shops, but this seems not to be the case now. I hope it fits....
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