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Post by jno on Apr 13, 2015 9:05:45 GMT
Link to episode on minder.org: www.minder.org/episodeguide/S01E03_TheSmallerTheyAre.htm
The scenes at the Winchester at the start of this one are great - Terry & Arthur out on a Saturday afternoon enjoying a couple of jugs together. Interesting dialogue during these scenes Arthur seems just as much into a bid of 'birding' as Terry is. His "don't suppose you get up the White City?" comment to the TWA assistant is also evidence of this. Dave also has a male assistant in the club in this episode.
Up to Scotch Harry's drum, which looks well run down and Arthur's reaction to Terry opening up a can a SKOL is fantastic. The villains in this one are nasty and very cut throat and Phil McCall plays a drunk Scotch Harry very very well - "geeus one a they lagers". As has been mentioned elsewhere on the forum Phil McCall sadly hanged himself in 2002 ( link ) but I have to say I thought he was excellent in both his appearances in Minder.
This might also be the first time we hear the words Light Ale in Minder too. Sometimes I wonder if Minder was sponsored by ‘Light Ale’ - it gets a fair few mentions throughout the series! I am not sure what the cans are on the bedside table next to Harry r
Also the first time we see Rycott who is much different in this episode to the others as in this one he is portrayed as mildly bent. Having watched this many times, he is clearly not entirely ‘straight’ in this one but his actual involvement with the team is never actually given in too much detail and we only know he has handed Scotch Harry to them on a plate. There is some good humour in this one, like at the cheap hotel where Arthur tells them they are all incognito when in fact the hotel owner knows every one of them! A little dig at the Scottish football team too with Terry saying mentioning Scotch Harry could have gone to Spain and then adding "Mind you, he'll be the only Scot there!" It is hard to imagine that Scotch Harry would be able to remember the name of the hotel where Arthur & Terry had him and Stan hold up and I suppose he must have had a right kicking off of Eric to have spoken up. I can't help feel a bit of satisfaction after Terry gives Eric a pasting at the end.
Arthur is also very cut throat himself at the end of this one, dipping his hand in the suitcase to make sure he gets his share of the dodgy wedge, very funny to watch! This is a classic Minder story in my opinion, with it all coming to a natural useless conclusion at the end for Arthur as Dave says “that’s nine fivers Arthur”. Interesting that Terry also calculates in “fivers” in “Monday Night Fever” and maybe this was commonplace at the time to do so, I don’t know.
Some classic Arthur in this one including:
- At Scotch Harry's bedsit: "Obviously there'll be some disbursements involved."
- To Terry in the car: "We don't want to reveal out hand!"
Light Ale Mentions Counter: 2
10/10 for this one from me
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Post by swainy on Apr 13, 2015 13:21:05 GMT
I'm pretty sure that I remember reading that this is the episode that made Dennis Waterman realise what the gist of Minder was all about.
I've always loved this one too. Some excellent writing by Leon Griffiths & top performances from the cast.
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Post by barrythebook on Apr 13, 2015 20:55:19 GMT
I would agree that this is a 10/10 as well. Series 1 is my favourite and this episode is an excellent example.
An innocent Saturday afternoon drink turns into a classic early Minder story. Scotch Harrys bedsit is spot on. Gritty, rundown and realistic location filming at its very best.(Check out the tiny kitchen area in the background as the camera pans around) Arthur and Terry moving around 'the manor' putting a deal together whilst Rycott is moving in on them is also top stuff. It's also amusing that Arthur thinks he's in the same league as the criminals he's dealing with, however they're obviously neither impressed or intimidated by Arthur as we see by the offer of a derisory £500 to clear off.
I've always assumed Rycott's role to be one of using his position as a Police officer to keep his eyes and ears open around the criminal fraternity.In return, there'd be 'a nice little drink' from the money movers,for information that will see the briefcase back in their hands. He obviously put the word out that he wanted Scotch Harry hence that's why he got the phone call from the pub landlord.
The beer can on the bedside unit looks like it could be 'Long Life'.
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Post by arnie on Apr 21, 2015 16:50:11 GMT
Another classic episode for all of the above.
Scotch Harry is superb, acted brilliantly by Phil McCall. For me he actually surpasses this in Return of the Invicible Man a few years later.... now that was a great episode.
The regaular referral to Light Ale seems to be a London thing. I was a teenager in the early 80's and going for a Light Ale was what we did, even though we all drank lager!! Just a phrase, used by my old man before and still used by the boys I know today.
And the BTB is right - that is a can of Long Life.
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Post by jno on Apr 22, 2015 6:44:00 GMT
The regaular referral to Light Ale seems to be a London thing. I was a teenager in the early 80's and going for a Light Ale was what we did, even though we all drank lager!! Just a phrase, used by my old man before and still used by the boys I know today.
...and the original stuff was a right bargain - this is from a TESCO ad from The Sun in May 1982 when 4 cans of Light Ale cost a mere 99p! No wonder Scotch Harry and his fellow villainous brethren liked it so much.
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Post by Arch Stanton on Jun 29, 2015 14:58:02 GMT
The Smaller They Are.
During a quiet Saturday afternoon down the boozer, Arthur and Terry are approached by some dozy local who wants to know if Arthur has any ideas about foreign exchange; and if so, is there any chance he could swap a 100 dollar bill? Intrigued Arthur follows him back to his flat with Terry, whereupon they learn about an incident of airport lounge sneak thievery that could really make 'them' (Arthur!) some money. As it is, it turns out that the bag snatcher in question, is a little drunk with a big mouth, who goes by the name of 'Scotch Harry', who has stolen a briefcase containing half a million US dollars. With the only downside, seemingly being that he was spotted escaping the scene by a potentially bent copper named Rycott.
So, with Terry holding the fort and protecting their interests, Arthur goes about contacting the owners of the briefcase in order to see if he can set up some sort of 'cash reward' for return of the case. Unfortunately though it turns out that the bag's owners are in actual fact a nasty team of currency smugglers, who are prepared to stop at nothing to get their dirty money back...
Third episode made, this time directed by another ex-Hammer director, in Roy Ward Baker. Who I have to say, handles the pacing and action a little better than Sasdy did in the last two. This is a slightly darker, more balanced episode (in terms of character screen time), and I think that it benefits because of it. The support cast, as some have already mentioned in posts above, are uniformly very good, and I would certainly mirror any above comments praising Phil McCall's efforts as the drunken Scotch Harry. Although it was just as pleasing to see the likes of David Jackson (Mr Trubshaw from the sickopathic, Brit slashfest 'Killer's Moon' 1978).. And indeed Chris Jenkinson, playing the ex-SAS heavy, Eric, who incidentally went on to say the classic "And zis iz how ve zay goodbye in Germany, Doctor Jones.." in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade!
Personally I think this has been the best episode of the series so far, a well balanced and well told story, with plenty of good locations and a nice final punchline (and punch up!).
Other points of interest being that 'Terry 10 Jackets', again changes his coat more times in this episode than I have changed mine in the last decade; and that this is the first episode in which policeman Rycott appears, in total he would feature in 15.
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Post by jno on Jun 29, 2015 15:20:36 GMT
Other points of interest being that 'Terry 10 Jackets', again changes his coat more times in this episode than I have changed mine in the last decade; and that this is the first episode in which policeman Rycott appears, in total he would feature in 15. No coats Arch? Just anoraks I suppose. Nice review and I never realised Terry's jacket count per episode was so high but will keep an eye out from now on that's for sure! Scotch Harry of course returns for 1 episode in series 6, a great idea but although Chisholm does a grand job it is not Rycott, who I would have loved to see go up against Scotch Harry again.
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Post by daz on Aug 5, 2015 19:56:33 GMT
A really good episode, one of my favourites, and Scotch Harry was an inspired bit of casting. There were a lot of Harrys around about where I stayed as a kid and Phil McCall played him spot on.
I owned this episode on video and for some reason instead of the standard 2 episodes on the video it had 3, but not from the same series, it was a well fashioned fit up, but it was a great treat to watch the two episodes then to find another one after it had finished, not quite sure how they managed to do it, but I was very grateful.
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Post by glazbury on Aug 5, 2015 23:23:29 GMT
A very good episode. I always like the bit where Arthur & Terry are driving and Arthur mimics Scotch Harry: "Just get in there, in the words of Scotch Harry - Doo the bizzooo"!
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Post by Albert Wendell on Nov 28, 2015 2:11:38 GMT
I watched this the other day having last seen it nine years ago I wanted to watch it again as it has one of my favourite Minder moments in it (more on that later) plus I remember it being an excellent episode. When I bought Minder on video I didn’t purchase them in order and series 1 was the second to last series I viewed (series 6 being the final one). I always remember being surprised as to how gritty and seedy it seemed with the original Winchester Club and Scotch Harry’s flat. Alexei Sayle once said about the 1970’s that he always remembers that decade being like a Minder episode with everything being grey and run down I’m sure he was thinking of this episode when he said that. It has a Sweeney feel to it this one and could be anytime between 1975 and 1979. For me Scotch Harry makes this episode it’s not easy for an actor to portray a drunk person in a believable way but Phil McCall’s performance is outstanding. Something that the average viewer is likely to miss (I had on previous viewings) is what Scotch Harry is actually drinking, did you notice? On closer inspection you see him mix three drinks in a pint pot, red wine, drambuie and lemonade (no wonder Arthur refers to them as ‘hypnotic cocktails’) its very subtly done and gives a little extra to those who are paying attention.
From the then and now pictures on minder.org I was surprised to see Scotch Harry’s flat still standing and looking somewhat unchanged the downstairs windows look the same it appears to even have a green front door. The alleyway is also unchanged. There maybe another sighting of the orange VW Camper in this thats not listed on the dodgy motor photos on minder.org when Rycott parks his Marina outside the Market Bar to the left of the screen it looks to be parked by an orange Transit.
On to one of my favourite Minder moments it’s probably one that most members on here haven’t taken much notice of but for me I think it’s great and it’s Arthur sweet talking the airline receptionist I think it’s the way he seems impressed with himself at being able to charm her to give him what he wants he then thinks I could be in here before saying “don’t suppose you get up the White City of a Saturday night do you” he then realises he hasn’t got a chance and says (walking away) “no you don’t”. Hilary Ryan who plays the receptionist was also in a Professionals episode (Man Without A Past) and she looks absolutely stunning in that (looks good in Minder too). She hasn’t been in anything since 1988 according to imdb. I once did something similar to this in real life I was in Swansea with some friends we had hired a limo and were ready to go home all the booze we bought had been drunk and I fancied a drink for the journey home so I wandered into this pub/hotel went up to the bar and called the (very fit) barmaid over the conversation went something like "you couldn't do us a favour could you I've got a limo waiting outside and we've run out of booze you couldn't sell me a takeout could you" "well I could but you wouldn't get it past the bouncers" "don't you worry about the bouncers love i'll get past them" after abit more chat/gentle persuasion she gave me the bottle I put it in my inside jacket pocket and walked out past the bouncers and into the limo. I know its not quite the same but at the time it reminded me of that Minder scene possibly because it's chatting a stranger up to risk their job to help you out.
As with many series 1 and in some cases series 2 episodes Arthur is portrayed in a slightly different way, he’s a little posher (although not as much as in ‘Bury My Half At Waltham Green‘) he’s also not so tight with the money keen to cut Terry in on the deal (“something for me and Terry” and “we’ve gotta be earning on this”) he gives Big Stan (David Jackson played him perfectly) a choice on whether to choose ‘dollars or friendship’ and he’s quick to pay Dave back at the end of the episode. He also shows interest in women and is that bit braver and harder than the character would later become.
Being a series 1 Leon Griffiths episode its fair to say that this is how Leon envisaged Minder with gritty locations, rough people living close to the law (bent law), Terry and Arthur trying to make afew quid but with some very gentle humour added to sweeten the sour and somewhat bleak existence of the characters and story.
Another of my favourite episodes
5/5
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Post by jno on Nov 28, 2015 4:54:47 GMT
Superb post AW, love it!
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Post by Albert Wendell on Nov 28, 2015 15:58:06 GMT
Superb post AW, love it! Thank you glad you liked it. I forgot to add that a couple of years ago I met a man similar to Scotch Harry (well in voice and mannerisms) I was in my local and one of my oldest friends said "that Scottish bloke over there is funny whenever anyone asks him how he is he says 'brand new'" now this is what Scotch Harry says in 'The Return Of The Invincible Man' I told my mate who also likes Minder about Scotch Harry but he wasn't familiar with the character or episodes I asked him to introduce me to the guy (who was fairly drunk) and I said "how are you" he said "brand new!" I had a job keeping a straight face as he sounded just like Harry, I guess he came from the same part of Glasgow as Phil McCall.
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Post by pr1 on Feb 18, 2016 23:11:27 GMT
Lots of great little gems sprinkled throughout this episode. Arthur explaining how the rate of exchange works...the discussion of Yank airlines...hotel room service being across the street...Arthur's delusions of grandur about his status in life...and more.
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Post by gustav on May 10, 2016 12:06:38 GMT
As everyone observes this is a fantastic episode, good in every department. Lots of great lines but I really laughed when the four of them come limping out of the hotel and walk up to Rycott skulking outside and Arthur says to him "Who says you can never find one when you want one".
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Post by glazbury on Feb 1, 2017 16:07:25 GMT
They could have brought back Scotch Harry in series 2 or 3 rather than waiting until series 6. A great Minder character.
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Post by jno on Feb 24, 2017 8:47:54 GMT
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Post by ltd on Feb 25, 2017 18:13:29 GMT
I forgot to add that a couple of years ago I met a man similar to Scotch Harry (well in voice and mannerisms) My old boss was Northern Irish and he was a decent bloke but had a drink problem. When he'd had a few he'd exhibit a lot of Scotch Harry's mannerisms, especially the grandiosity and aggression. This would lead him getting into scraps with total strangers in pubs. He wasn't a big man, and he definitely wasn't in good shape so would often end up getting a kicking and would come into work on the Monday with bruises and worse on his face. For me Phil McCaul's performance definitively nails a certain type of alcoholic and shows what a good actor he was.
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Post by nixonuk on Mar 8, 2017 21:35:38 GMT
'I love the outdoors, I come fae Clydebank'
Watched this on the weekend with Er In Doors. She is American and loved it! (Always a good sign of a strong Minder.)
This is one of the Minder episodes I will always cherish. One of my favourite scenes is at the block of flats, when Arthur wrongfoots Eric. He is so pleased with himself.
Also love the bit where Rycott drives past the nick and Scotch Harry realises all is not well.
I think every actor in this one plays a blinder (ok maybe not the richard and the guy who had his case nicked) and that combined with excellent writing and gritty locations makes this a real Minder classic.
'I hate kebabs!' Laugh a minute this one.
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Post by pr1 on Jun 11, 2017 23:25:55 GMT
This is truly a great episode. I think I enjoyed it more the second time.
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Post by westldner on Sept 27, 2017 13:33:19 GMT
10/10? Agreed... I actually thought the episode was rather more adventurous towards the end compared to the first two episodes.
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Post by I used to think I was a parrot on Sept 27, 2017 22:31:23 GMT
I used to drink Light and Mild - which was light ale mixed with mild.
The villains are very good in this one - I like it when Arthur and the gang fight them at the end.
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Post by barison82 on Sept 28, 2017 18:36:17 GMT
Another one of my all-time favourites, a great early episode with all the classic Minder ingredients, just as Albert Wendell describes so well above, and my rating would be 5/5 as well. Just on the subject of Light Ale, I thought that this had disappeared but I was able to buy a few bottles of it from the White Cross in Richmond, a Young's pub. So this was a pleasant surprise. I have a few classic Beer Cans in my collection and Light Ale was also produced by Ind Coope. I also have a few Long Life cans, but the bigger ones, with the same design of which the smaller 275ml cans are seen in this episode with Scotch Harry: The 440ml Long Life can is from 1974, the Light Ale bottle is from last year, and the Light Ale can is 1979. Cheers!
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Post by jno on Sept 29, 2017 2:19:36 GMT
There are of course numerous 'Light Ale' references throughout Minder, but not even my anorak counter has kept track of 'em.
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Post by yoyopickles on Sept 30, 2017 8:46:01 GMT
I went to a wedding reception last month at a sports and social club, and was very happy to find that the bar stocked GREENE KING light ale in bottles, so I had a few of those. So at least 3 companiessl still brew it, COURAGE, SHEPHARD NEAME and GREENE KING.
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 25, 2018 22:27:11 GMT
Arthur to Terry in scotch accent..Do thi bizzoo..lol
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Post by bensonrad on May 28, 2018 22:41:54 GMT
Starting back with Series one and aiming to work my way through, I found this episode quite slow going first time I watched it, but this repeat watching on my Umbrella box set I found better going. Some good laugh out loud moments, I loved Arthur telling Terry he would be going in and he was back up outside. Funny seeing Rycott as a possibly semi bent copper here too, I am giving this one a good 8.5/10.
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Post by gustav on Aug 12, 2018 23:43:52 GMT
Just watched this episode again, really excellent. Scotch Harry and Stan are a great double act of feckless losers. Truly a top episode this one.
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Post by ltd on Nov 4, 2018 14:17:09 GMT
Hilary Ryan who plays the receptionist was also in a Professionals episode (Man Without A Past) and she looks absolutely stunning in that (looks good in Minder too). Agree with you on that Albert -I preferred her to ex-Bond girl Susan Vanner who played Kim. Shame she didn't have a bigger part really.
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Post by nixonuk on Jan 1, 2019 21:56:51 GMT
Hilary Ryan who plays the receptionist was also in a Professionals episode (Man Without A Past) and she looks absolutely stunning in that (looks good in Minder too). Agree with you on that Albert -I preferred her to ex-Bond girl Susan Vanner who played Kim. Shame she didn't have a bigger part really. And here is Susan Vanner, must have been hard to keep a straight face with Roger the Dodger in his yellow jump suit! 'I need you - So does England!l
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Post by I used to think I was a parrot on Jan 9, 2019 21:01:48 GMT
I find exchange rates confusing and am not very good at maths, but I did some (not very fascinating) research about the exchange rate bits in this episode. In 1979 the £1 was worth from $2-$2.30. Dave says the rate is more than £2 £1 is about £5 today. In this Arthur gives Stan 8 fivers - £40. Dave gives him £45 for his $100 note. So Arthur ripped Stan off for about £5 - £20 today.
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