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Post by jno on Feb 27, 2015 10:39:44 GMT
Link to episode on minder.org: www.minder.org/episodeguide/S09E02_NoWayToTreatADaley.htm
Arthur is kidnapped in this one by Warren (played by Richard Ridings) and taken to Tilbury Power Station. It is down to Ray to come to his rescue but Arthur has his own plans to get out of trouble. I like it! There is a minor time blooper in this one - Ray and Gloria are supposed to meet at 8 PM. When Ray fails to appear they eventually go back to the petrol station and it is still daytime? (Big thanks to Matt from Australia for this info.) |
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Post by nixonuk on Jul 23, 2015 4:37:18 GMT
Love how Arthur gets out of schtuk but something about the episode doesn't ring right for me.
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Post by jno on Jul 23, 2015 5:29:28 GMT
Love how Arthur gets out of schtuk but something about the episode doesn't ring right for me. I agree and this is probably down to Tony Pike - the much played up psycho villain who promises so much but delivers so little. Throughout the whole thing we're led to believe he is a kneecap breaker but in fact Ray has him over in a few seconds. Clearly the sort of person he's been taking for a night on the marshes is the sort that can't or don't want to put up a fight. Credit to Ray here though, he does all he can to track down Arthur and this is all about 'family'. Despite Pike falling at the first, Ray is very much playing detective at the expense of a harmonious relationship with the much put upon but delightful Gloria. |
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Post by hmx on Oct 16, 2015 21:20:50 GMT
I looked up Richard Ridings on Wikipedia after watching this episode on ITV4 a few weeks ago; I was interested to find that he is/was the voice of "Daddy Pig" from Peppa Pig! (Trying to picture Daddy Pig saying "you have trodden on the forbidden lawn!!")
I really liked the sequences at the power station where Arthur is listening and talking to Warren about his history, his father and how he came to work with Tony Pike. I thought it showed a more thoughtful and compassionate side of Arthur, which, possibly we all like to think he has but is rarely shown to the viewer. Warren himself turned out to be somewhat contemplative and quite insightful at times and seemingly sharing an appreciation for quotes and phrases.
It was haunting hearing Ray screaming "Arthur!" when he's on the marshes at dawn, thinking he was too late but happily a feel-good ending seeing Arthur safe and Warren liberated!
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Post by pr1 on Nov 7, 2016 0:54:25 GMT
I liked this one. Lots of fine moments through out the episode. The highlight for me were the scenes with Arthur and Warren. Tony Pike is presented as a ruthless villain but turns out to be what many bullies are when push comes to shove, a blustering coward. I don't think Pike's reputation survives after his encounter with Ray.
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Post by glazbury on May 29, 2017 15:20:34 GMT
I remember watching this episode when it was originally broadcast - I really wanted Ray to give Tony Pike a good hiding!
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Post by alf on Jul 5, 2017 22:52:12 GMT
You have trodden on the forbidden lawns!
Some nice dialogue and Mr. Cole always delivers
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Post by rog73 on May 9, 2018 7:03:16 GMT
Memorable one this.
The scenes at the old power station are very atmospheric, and Warren is a good character.
My only complaint would be that we don’t see Arthur actually convince Warren to let him go. One minute he’s saying you won’t soften me, then next minute he’s getting out of his van back in London.
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Post by thewoodster on May 14, 2018 10:51:11 GMT
Memorable one this. The scenes at the old power station are very atmospheric, and Warren is a good character. My only complaint would be that we don’t see Arthur actually convince Warren to let him go. One minute he’s saying you won’t soften me, then next minute he’s getting out of his van back in London. Rog73 I agree,always felt like there was a missing scene to explain this. |
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Post by leaveitoutjohn on May 8, 2019 18:59:10 GMT
I think I've spotted Paul Broughton (Eddie Banks off Brookside) uncredited as a boxer
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Post by jno on May 9, 2019 2:37:46 GMT
Memorable one this. The scenes at the old power station are very atmospheric, and Warren is a good character. My only complaint would be that we don’t see Arthur actually convince Warren to let him go. One minute he’s saying you won’t soften me, then next minute he’s getting out of his van back in London. Rog73 I agree,always felt like there was a missing scene to explain this. I understand this, but I like the fact they leave it up to the viewer. I think the idea is you are concerned for Ray right up to the last and we learn that when desperate times call for desperate measures, Arthur uses what he can i.e. his patter, to talk himself out of danger by manipulating Warren to save his skin. How he did is a trade secret of course, but we know he can. |
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Post by McCann on Jun 7, 2020 16:47:05 GMT
Really liked this one on viewing it for about the third time. It's good, but just not enough to warrant the score of excellent. Desmond McNamara's 2nd appearance in Minder, ten years after he flogged those fruity mags to Arthur in 'Another Bride, Another Groom' Nice cameo by a young Andrew Marr, driving his 928 Porker and all  . |
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Post by Toecutter on Sept 23, 2020 21:10:27 GMT
Apart from the Arthur/Warren scenes,this is just awful.
Watching this again...Goes from 'anyone seen Arthur' to 'Arthurs been kidnapped' in about 15 seconds.
The guy who hadn't a clue where he was taken,takes Ray straight to it.Worst tv villain by a neck to Denny(just call it a grand)Willis(?)
This ep sums up the main problems with the Ray years...Just far too much plot implausibility.
Maybe just trying too hard to make it different to the Terry years,or reintroducing the violent edge of the early original episodes anyways.
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