yorkie
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Post by yorkie on Jan 17, 2006 15:35:39 GMT
I was watching the The Great Trilby last night and I don't know how other Minder fans feel but when Arthur & Ray were in Australia I think a great twist to the story would have been meeting Terry and him helping them get away from the Aussie gangsters and back to the U.K, but with Arthur trying to wrap Terry around his little finger like he used to.
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Post by Mournful on Jan 17, 2006 22:12:45 GMT
Good point Yorkie (named after one of my favourite Minder characters, the wonderful and sadly missed Brian Glover), must admit that I had never made the connection between Terry leaving and going to Australia and then Arthur and Ray going to Aus, never seen this connection made anywhere either.
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Post by jno on Jan 20, 2006 6:06:16 GMT
I remember swainy telling me I think they missed out on a great opportunity with the Australia episodes and that I'm sure that Arthur would have looked up Terry. Even if Dennis Waterman didn't want to appear, they should have at least mentioned Terry in one of those episodes.
I agree with this, I think in reality there is no doubt that Arthur would have looked Terry up. I think in the new Ray Daley series though, all mention of Dennis Waterman was being left out intentionally after the first episode to give the Ray Daley a fair crack of the whip. I quite like those Australia episodes and it's certainly fitting they went there to film, particularly as Minder is so popular down under!
Link to episode on minder.org: www.minder.org/episodeguide/S09E11_TheGreatTrilby.htm
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Post by steve99 on Jun 9, 2007 21:43:11 GMT
I've just watched the Australia-set Minder episodes and it never occurred to me either about Terry being out there. It would have been good to see Arthur and Terry back together, even if only briefly, but I doubt Dennis Waterman would have agreed to appear. It may also have been unfair to Gary Webster, as DW guesting might have had fans calling for the original pairing of Arfur and Tel.
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Post by jno on Jun 9, 2015 16:26:25 GMT
The sad thing about this first part of this trilogy is the unseen departure of Morley, Field and Gloria. George Cole is a little negative in his comments on the DVD commentaries about going down under. Personally I like this trilogy and think the idea that the only way to get Arthur off the manor is the thought of a major cash windfall. It looks to me as if they possibly started filming this series in Australia before returning to London to shoot the rest. Emma Cunningham looks particularly lovely in this one too.
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Post by newishminderfan on Oct 10, 2015 22:19:01 GMT
This was a great episode, particularly liked the 'seen it all' private detective from Australia come over to help Arthur. Initially, I thought that Arthur was going to lose his claim to the inheritance after it seemed as though Morley had him bang to rights, but good old Fields.
Also, wasn't Dennis Waterman performing in Australia when they were shooting there?
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Post by thewinchester on Oct 15, 2015 23:20:33 GMT
I never thought of this, it would have been great to see Terry back on our screens but no so for Garry. Even if they'd just gone to look Tel up. I still can't believe I never made the connection of Terry in Australia, right I'm off to boil my head.
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larchlapriley
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Post by larchlapriley on Oct 22, 2015 9:38:10 GMT
I caught this episode on ITV4 the other day and was intrigued about the break in at Gloria's flat. Gloria phoned Arthur at the lock up looking for Ray and obviously Arthur forgot to pass the message on. Eventually he did tell Ray and said that 'plod' were dealing with it. Is it my imagination or did they cut out a bit where Gloria had a go at Ray about his lack of response? Or did I possibly commit the cardinal sin of nodding off during an episode of Minder?
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Post by swainy on Oct 22, 2015 15:02:00 GMT
It must of been cut. There is a scene where Ray walks in on Gloria who is having a drink with Field where she does moan at him.
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larchlapriley
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Post by larchlapriley on Oct 22, 2015 15:38:13 GMT
Thanks Swainy. I didn't think I was going mad. It'll give me a good excuse to rewatch it on DVD tonight (Australian release).
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Post by jno on Apr 4, 2016 13:28:38 GMT
From the Radio Times 13-19 March 1993 - this appeared the same week that 'The Great Trilby' was first broadcast.
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Post by daz on May 26, 2016 11:07:31 GMT
I remember not liking this episode much upon first transmission, but I did enjoy it more this turn around.
I liked the way Bill McCabe was following Arthur around until he caught up with him at the Winchester, where upon initial enquiries Arthur tries to avoid him, but on hearing of a potential legacy, appears from behind the post. Also Arthur trying to track down his family tree and then berating the lady for only getting mixed results. I think the actress who played this character may have appeared in another Minder episode, or maybe some other series. The farewell party at the Winchester was a nice touch also.
Looking forward to the second part now...
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Post by pr1 on Dec 5, 2016 0:37:39 GMT
When Arthur wants Ray to get his car back, Ray says it will 'cost him an arm'. If my American ears heard if correctly. Is Ray's comment just a short version of it costing him an arm and a leg or is it part of rhyming slang I haven't heard before?
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Post by swainy on Dec 5, 2016 4:02:36 GMT
Just short for an arm and a leg.
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Post by pr1 on Dec 5, 2016 18:25:44 GMT
I enjoyed this and thought it established the storyline of Arthur inheriting money in Australia very well. I still have to watch the other two parts of this three parter.
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Post by yoyopickles on Dec 7, 2016 19:04:01 GMT
We get to see Ethel the Winchester clubs cleaner in this episode, who Arthur and Ray later talk to on the phone from Sydney.........
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Post by yoyopickles on Jan 11, 2017 22:02:37 GMT
I actually remember reading this back in the day! It must have been in the next issue where they had the article on the Aussie episodes
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Post by bensonrad on Jan 25, 2017 22:38:38 GMT
Is it iced water or a large V.A.T he's got there though!
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Post by jno on Jan 26, 2017 4:07:34 GMT
Is it iced water or a large V.A.T he's got there though! Good question, this was Gary's "lord it up" period so arguably the latter one might think!
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alf
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Post by alf on Jun 19, 2017 12:52:23 GMT
Talking of cuts when a traffic warden finds the fake tickets seems a bit abrupt.Arthur just looks down and then it cuts.There were no adbreaks in my copy is it a longer scene?
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Post by I used to think I was a parrot on Sept 14, 2017 20:03:57 GMT
I think this is Gloria's last appearance. She must have found out about Ray's numerous other women!
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Post by jno on Sept 29, 2017 2:16:42 GMT
I think this is Gloria's last appearance. She must have found out about Ray's numerous other women! I think it was more down to change/money.
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Post by yoyopickles on Sept 30, 2017 8:50:13 GMT
Another nice little touch is when Arthur slightly tipsy after the party, and consulting his breif after being nicked by morely, and points to his tie and says "look its got kangeroos on it!"
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 8, 2018 10:07:40 GMT
I like this episode a lot. As noticed by all there is a few departures of cast after this, however it's the start of the possibly the best story line of the Gary Webster years.
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Post by thewoodster on Mar 21, 2018 0:29:07 GMT
This was obviously done at the height of his stint on minder. Reading this article he was riding high and would never have had a clue it wouldn’t be that long before his Ray days would be over.
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Post by jno on Nov 29, 2019 14:55:37 GMT
Two different scenes in this and who appears in the background? A guy with a yellow shirt and shades on. Clearly an extra who walks on when he's told.
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blanco
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Post by blanco on Jun 18, 2020 7:18:58 GMT
This was obviously done at the height of his stint on minder. Reading this article he was riding high and would never have had a clue it wouldn’t be that long before his Ray days would be over. Yes, and sounds like he was a raver too staying up all night dancing in clubs like the Ministry!
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ned
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Post by ned on Jun 18, 2020 22:23:41 GMT
It must of been cut. There is a scene where Ray walks in on Gloria who is having a drink with Field where she does moan at him. My Ray DVDs are at the back of the cupboard so I hadn't seen this episode in full for some time. When I'd seen it on ITV4 before, this scene had been cut. So we saw Field join Gloria for a glass of wine, then later on, the scene where he feels he owes Ray a favour. The edit gives the impression that something has gone on between Field and Gloria - or maybe that's just my dirty mind! - which in my view is a better plot device than the actual scene (which has been reinstated!)
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Post by jno on Jun 19, 2020 6:57:34 GMT
Certainly when Ray shows up at Gloria's flat he does show signs of jealousy, which is a bit rich as he puts it about with quite a few others when Gloria is not about.
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Post by McCann on Jul 7, 2020 22:58:29 GMT
Liked this one so scored it excellent.
It gives us the sight of Arthur Daley on a tube! I always thought that the tube and tube stations seem such an integral part of London it's a bit surprising they didn't feature in the Sweeney, Pros or Minder more often. But here is Arthur on one, and then coming across as most un London like when he blocks the barrier for several minutes because he has lost his ticket.
Also, it is inferred that Dave forces Arthur into paying cash for his VAT. No more slate. Must be a new found assertiveness from Dave after seeing Arthur paying cash for the round in '9.9 Last orders at the Winchester' a few episodes back.
Also linking this episode to 'Last orders at the Winchester', it is a bit surprising that Field had no idea that Gloria's fella was one Ray Daley. Indeed he seemed to hardly know or recognise Gloria even though she was at Ray's side during the auction at the end of Last orders at the Winchester. These continuity issues suggest that 'Last orders....' was filmed/written after 'The Great Trilby'.
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