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Post by jno on Apr 4, 2022 2:21:15 GMT
So much disdain for this type of music, particularly in our own TOTP threads, so what's the worst? Here are 20 of the worst soppy ballads from rock/metal BANDS only, pick your worst FIVE. Bon Jovi - Always Bon Jovi - Bed of Roses Bon Jovi - I’ll Be There For You Chicago - anything! Def Leppard - Love Bites Def Leppard - When Love & Hate Collide Extreme - More Than Words Europe - Carrie Foreigner - I Want To Know What Love Is Guns'n'Roses - Patience Journey - Don't Stop Believin Metallica - Nothing Else Matters Motley Crüe - Without You Mr. Big - To Be With You Poison - Every Rose Has It's Thorn REO Speedwagon - I can't Fight This Feeling REO Speedwagon - Keep On Loving You Scorpions - Wind of Change Thunder - Love Walked In Whitesnake - Is This Love? Whitesnake - The Deeper The Love Rock on! Solo artists may follow later.  |
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Post by pr1 on Apr 4, 2022 3:58:38 GMT
I think they all stink! 😀
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Post by Terry on Apr 4, 2022 5:39:39 GMT
Metallica easily beats anything.
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Post by Arch Stanton on Apr 4, 2022 8:25:15 GMT
Where’s Bryan Adams? This poll is fixed.  |
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Post by fordcapri on Apr 4, 2022 8:34:01 GMT
I had to vote for all the Bon Jovi songs, naturally. Plus the excruciating Scorps song. And finally The Deeper the Love, by the Snake. This is bad mainly 'cos it's a blatant rip off of Is This Love and nothing else. Actually, Is This Love ain't a bad song and was originally written with Tina Turner in mind. However... it should have been a one off and every album since has had an Is This Love rip-off. I can see WHY... but no. Just stop!
P.S. Not sure how I managed to stop myself from voting for some/most of the others. Not enough votes allowed! The Leppard songs are bad too. But everything they've done since Hysteria has been bad. Mostly.
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Post by AlanH on Apr 4, 2022 8:56:10 GMT
Have no love for heavy rock/metal and I can honestly say I haven't heard any of these or if I have they have gone into the 'all this cr*p sounds the same so ignore it' part of my memory... No vote!
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Post by ontheslate on Apr 4, 2022 8:56:59 GMT
They are all pretty bad can’t pick just five
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Post by kelotoph on Apr 4, 2022 12:42:35 GMT
Other - "Somewhere over the Rainbow" by Matchbox (if they count as rock/metal).
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Post by coyote on Apr 4, 2022 13:12:57 GMT
Where’s Bryan Adams? This poll is fixed.  I was wondering where's Meatloaf doing anything for love (but he won't do that) but they're both notionally solo artists with backing bands rather than groups... |
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Post by jno on Apr 4, 2022 18:18:44 GMT
Where’s Bryan Adams? This poll is fixed. Technically, he's not really a band so he's orf the list. |
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Post by jno on Apr 4, 2022 18:26:46 GMT
Although it's really hard to hate Paul Gilbert the guitarist on the track, I genuinely feel nauseous when I hear Mr Big's To Be With You.
Europe - when this came out, even though it has a killer guitar solo, this song was utter pants.
I also voted for Extreme and Bon Jovi's Always, both right up there in the pukeworthy top spot with Mr Big for me.
I quite like Def Leppard even though I appreciate its nauseous for many, they are nowhere near as bad as the others here.
Sorry fc, but I could never vote for Whitesnake, they are too big as rock gods for me. 'Now You're Gone' is another Snake slop song not on this list but still good.
I've played Bon Jovi's 'I'll Be There For You' in a band and God it was awful, though the youngsters I played it with all thought it was the sh1t. I really can't stick Bon Jovi.
3 possibles for this list have to be Guns'n'Posers 'November Rain', which is complete cack, Soul Asylum's 'Runaway Train' and Queensryche's 'Silent Lucidity'.
I also have a soft spot for REO Speedwagon, why? I don't know why though.
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Post by ltd on Apr 4, 2022 18:34:42 GMT
Winds of Change - an absolute dirge, and financed by the CIA (allegedly) as part of their Psy-Ops programme.
In the "Other" category, much as I love Black Sabbath, always reckoned Changes a dreadful dirge as well.
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Post by coyote on Apr 5, 2022 14:55:33 GMT
The Leppard songs are bad too. But everything they've done since Hysteria has been bad. Mostly. 'Love Bites' is on Hysteria, but yes I agree everything since has been a dog. Especially the cringeworthy lyrics from 'Let's Get Rocked' like "Let's get the rock out of here" and "I suppose a rock's out of the question". Another Lep ballad that could have been on there is 'Two Steps Behind' although I quite like this one. It was written some years previously and appeared on a film soundtrack rather than one of their studio albums. |
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Post by coyote on Apr 5, 2022 15:13:01 GMT
3 possibles for this list have to be Guns'n'Posers 'November Rain', which is complete cack, Soul Asylum's 'Runaway Train' and Queensryche's 'Silent Lucidity'. I was surprised 'November Rain' wasn't on the list, it polarises people but I really like it, especially Slash's guitar solo at the end which is extremely inventive melodically IMO. Not sure you'd class 'Runaway Train' as a ballad as it's mid-tempo pop-rock, much like 'Don't Stop Believin'' and the REO and Whitesnake songs. And since when were Chicago a rock/metal band?! Mrs Coyote really likes 'Carrie' and gets annoyed when I sing "Gary" to it if she plays it  . And she's trying to learn 'Nothing Else Matters' on the guitar, not that you'd know it from the sounds coming out. It gives the term "YTS version" a new meaning. Come to think of it she likes a lot of these songs as well as proper German hard rock and metal, maybe these types of songs were meant to appeal to women or maybe just for the erection section at the end of Rock City c 1992...  |
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Post by fordcapri on Apr 5, 2022 16:19:37 GMT
...Yeah, when I said 'everything since Hysteria' I was really including that album in my net. It's all overproduced and girly. I admit that I used to think it was OK... then I came to my senses. They wimped out big time from Hysteria onward. I liked the Retroactive album, but that was mostly old stuff.
I'll admit to liking Silent Lucidity. I saw G 'N' R on their Use Your Illusion tour, so I have a sort of soft spot for November Rain... it wasn't November... but it was raining! John Sykes made those Whitesnake ballads bearable (and there's more than one on 1987), but Vai and Vandenberg just couldn't.
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Post by jno on Apr 5, 2022 19:29:36 GMT
Bon Jovi's Always and Extreme's More Than Words out in front.
Extreme, why oh why do dislike this band so much? Even as a rock fan, I find them dreadful. That said, guitar playing is out of this world but even that can't save them for me.
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Post by chrisclark1977 on Apr 5, 2022 23:00:18 GMT
On the Oz/NZ version of AC/DC's 'High Voltage' there is a ballad called "Love Song" which fortunately something they never did again. This was their first album where they were still very much glam rather than hard rock.
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Post by jno on Apr 6, 2022 3:16:39 GMT
And since when were Chicago a rock/metal band?! This is a good question. Ok, they play guitars, bass and drums but are they pop? I don't know, so I went to their Wikipedia page, and there it is, ROCK band, though I concede, it's stretching it. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_(band) |
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Post by brinylonshirt on Apr 8, 2022 19:23:45 GMT
I love some 80s rock ballads/power ballads. So I am running in the opposite direction on this!
Sara by Starship and Amanda by Boston, both US no. 1 singles in 1986 are both fab.
Then there is the glory of Alone and These Dreams by Heart. I Want You So Bad is another great ballad from the same album as Alone.
Is This Love by Whitesnake is a total classic and Coverdale told Gary Kemp and Guy Pratt on their podcast that he wrote it for Tina Turner but was persuaded not to give it away. A much better Journey track than Don't Stop Believin’ is Who’s Crying Now - a beautiful song covered later by Randy Crawford. Read Em And Weep by Meatloaf is another great OTT ballad later cover by Barry Manilow!
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Post by jno on Apr 8, 2022 19:51:18 GMT
I love some 80s rock ballads/power ballads. So I am running in the opposite direction on this! Sara by Starship and Amanda by Boston, both US no. 1 singles in 1986 are both fab. Then there is the glory of Alone and These Dreams by Heart. I Want You So Bad is another great ballad from the same album as Alone. Is This Love by Whitesnake is a total classic and Coverdale told Gary Kemp and Guy Pratt on their podcast that he wrote it for Tina Turner but was persuaded not to give it away. A much better Journey track than Don't Stop Believin’ is Who’s Crying Now - a beautiful song covered later by Randy Crawford. Read Em And Weep by Meatloaf is another great OTT ballad later cover by Barry Manilow! I have Heart's greatest hits in my car, great album. I also like the track 'There's A Girl' from their 80s hair period. Their songs are way better than the soppy rubbish on this list. |
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Post by brinylonshirt on Apr 8, 2022 22:37:39 GMT
I have Heart's greatest hits in my car, great album. I also like the track 'There's A Girl' from their 80s hair period. Their songs are way better than the soppy rubbish on this list. I love mid 80s Heart, the two albums produced by Ron Nevison - Heart and Bad Animals. They had the songs from LA professional hit songwriters and Ann Wilsons voice is better than in the 70s. Nevison had produced Jefferson Starship earlier in the decade before they morphed into Starship. Jane which despite its name is an all out rocker is maybe Jefferson Starship/Starship’s greatest single. |
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Post by fordcapri on Apr 11, 2022 7:42:33 GMT
I don't know if it's a ballad or not, and I'll probably never find out!, but I notice that the forthcoming new album by Def Leppard contains a song called U Rok Mi. Just find it somewhat incredible that a bunch of guys in their late 50s/early 60s actually think that calling a song U Rok Mi makes them look cool and young and with it and happening.  |
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Post by jno on Apr 11, 2022 17:46:57 GMT
I don't know if it's a ballad or not, and I'll probably never find out!, but I notice that the forthcoming new album by Def Leppard contains a song called U Rok Mi. Just find it somewhat incredible that a bunch of guys in their late 50s/early 60s actually think that calling a song U Rok Mi makes them look cool and young and with it and happening. Yeah, you have to abbreviate your words to get down with the kids on the street fc. The world is doing, it is only us old giffers on here that expect good quality language on a rock album. |
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Post by coyote on Apr 11, 2022 17:54:18 GMT
I don't know if it's a ballad or not, and I'll probably never find out!, but I notice that the forthcoming new album by Def Leppard contains a song called U Rok Mi. Just find it somewhat incredible that a bunch of guys in their late 50s/early 60s actually think that calling a song U Rok Mi makes them look cool and young and with it and happening. Yeah, you have to abbreviate your words to get down with the kids on the street fc. The world is doing, it is only us old giffers on here that expect good quality language on a rock album. Slade did it, and they are even older giffers |
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Post by fordcapri on Apr 11, 2022 19:13:38 GMT
I was waiting for the Slade comment. Yeah, but that was like half a century ago and I think that all came about because Noddy didn't want a song called 'I love You'... have to admit that when you see it written down, that looks soppy, but 'Coz I Luv You' looks a bit cooler. They must have been fairly young then, in their 20s, and it became their 'thing'. In 2022, at aged 62 (Joe Elliott), it just looks a bit tragic...
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Post by azza200 on Apr 15, 2022 20:22:40 GMT
Bon Jovi is so smug and Bed of Roses makes me wanna throw up.
Honorable mention Journey that song has been overplayed to the death
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Post by Twin2 on Apr 28, 2022 14:07:15 GMT
Whoever said above that these songs were written for wimmin might have something there as *whispers* I absolutely love some of them! Bed of Roses included... When we got married we signed the register to Forever by Kiss and Meat Loaf was playing as the photos were being taken. Oh and... we had Love Walked In by Thunder playing as we, well, walked in  I'll get my coat  |
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Post by jno on Apr 29, 2022 3:01:59 GMT
Whoever said above that these songs were written for wimmin might have something there as *whispers* I absolutely love some of them! Bed of Roses included... When we got married we signed the register to Forever by Kiss and Meat Loaf was playing as the photos were being taken. Oh and... we had Love Walked In by Thunder playing as we, well, walked in I'll get my coat Love it. So, I guess you're not going to fess up as to what you voted for on here then Twin2?  |
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Post by steve99 on May 13, 2022 18:15:51 GMT
It may have to be I Want to Know What Love Is, I want you to show me. The dirty get, trying to get a lass into bed by warbling a dodgy ditty.
But wot, no Babe by Styx or Beth from Kiss? Some may venture that Styx barely make the rock genre but they surely fit into the AOR category along with Journey and Foreigner. For those teenage lads back in the day who played air guitar to live albums by bands such as Kiss (which certainly didn't include me), it lowered the adrenaline level somewhat when a thrashing rock number finished and Peter Criss began singing Beth. "Gerroutofit, I'm off for a slash and I'll let me bird listen to this one" or the local equivalent must have been said on more than one occasion at Kiss gigs during the Criss era.
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Post by Twin2 on May 31, 2022 18:15:56 GMT
Whoever said above that these songs were written for wimmin might have something there as *whispers* I absolutely love some of them! Bed of Roses included... When we got married we signed the register to Forever by Kiss and Meat Loaf was playing as the photos were being taken. Oh and... we had Love Walked In by Thunder playing as we, well, walked in I'll get my coat Love it. So, I guess you're not going to fess up as to what you voted for on here then Twin2?  Extreme - More Than Words |
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. And she's trying to learn 'Nothing Else Matters' on the guitar, not that you'd know it from the sounds coming out. It gives the term "YTS version" a new meaning. Come to think of it she likes a lot of these songs as well as proper German hard rock and metal, maybe these types of songs were meant to appeal to women or maybe just for the erection section at the end of Rock City c 1992... 
