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Post by jno on Feb 17, 2015 16:35:30 GMT
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Post by daz on Jan 4, 2016 11:29:16 GMT
Watched this last night and I thought it was a very good episode. You know if you are going to rip off Arthur you have to get up very early in the morning, these guys didn't set their alarms early enough.
Loved the scene when they discovered the dog might be homosexual, great to see David Jackson appear in Minder again, playing a rather more upmarket character this time, rather than the down on his luck characters he played twice previously.
A very enjoyable episode showing Ray to be picking up the ropes nicely.
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Post by pr1 on Oct 2, 2016 21:36:29 GMT
I liked the plot and enjoyed this episode. Ray has obviously learned a thing or two from working for Arthur.
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Post by jno on Oct 3, 2016 4:00:26 GMT
One of very few shows to feature a Trabant! I like this one, the early 90s vibe is turned up to the max. Compared to other Ray episodes I think there are probably better plots than this but it's always enjoyable to watch. This episode is clearly showing that Ray still has a lot to learn and others out there take pleasure scamming Arthur.
I might be wrong but I don't think at any other point (apart from with Terry in series 1 maybe) do we see Arthur playing cards, or do we?
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Post by pr1 on Oct 3, 2016 4:07:52 GMT
I thought it odd to see Arthur playing cards for money. At the point in his life when the series starts, Arthur seems to love money too much to risk loosing any by gambling. I'm sure in his younger days Arhur played Poker and probley engaged in other forms of gambling.
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Post by thefactory on Jun 18, 2017 6:03:51 GMT
Watched this one again only last night. Some cracking dialogue all the way through this one. The scene where Arthur and Ray take Bertie to the lake is classic. "That'd be just my luck wouldn't it? A bent greyhound with failing eyesight!" "Your crazed animal just assaulted my prize bitch! And she wasn't even in season!!" Also the scenes at the stud farm are pretty funny too... "We simply tie the bitch up, then offer it to the dog..." "It don't give the bitch much chance, do It?" "We try not to leave a great deal to chance, Mr Daley!" Allie Byrne (or Allie Esiri as she is now) is also quite lovely as Ray's love interest Lucy in this episode. "Now that you've got your clothes on young lady, I recognise you!" Pity she was only in two episodes. Still a fine looking lady today:  |
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Post by thewoodster on Nov 12, 2018 23:33:51 GMT
Really enjoyable episode for me this one.
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Post by jno on Dec 25, 2018 18:32:44 GMT
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Post by thewoodster on Jan 5, 2019 11:28:56 GMT
Great archive photo jno.
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Post by winchesterclub on Mar 26, 2020 20:42:41 GMT
Just re watched this episode
Arthur's face when the Trabant car arrives " they are big in East Germany", " no wonder they put a wall up if that"s the best they can do '! and also the Homosexual Greyhound Lightning Bertie I noticed Jonny Lee Miller played Albert the auctioneers assistant !,
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Post by jno on May 9, 2020 2:57:11 GMT
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Post by harryshand on May 20, 2020 11:01:39 GMT
Enjoyed this episode this morning. Very well written and understated performances.
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Post by gareth on May 20, 2020 15:18:26 GMT
Poetic justice at the end...
When Ray cons one of the culprits to part with 10 large for a Trabant....
Marvellous..
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Post by jjmolloy on May 20, 2020 20:24:17 GMT
Press photo: I rather think that in any intelligence test Ray would come third here...  |
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Post by McCann on May 20, 2020 21:57:37 GMT
So, I will give this one a 5/5. Having been suitably harsh on other Ray Daley episodes. It is a good show. Allie Byrne was gorgeous here. Good to see David Jackson here in a very different role from Big Stan and Marion.
Arthur still looked very fresh at the start playing the cards, he would have been coming up to 65 when this was filmed, but he could still operate as a shifty beggar for a few more years. Only thing that bugs me, is Arthur handing over the 2 grand without even looking at the log book of the car. Of course this was necessary for the plot, but surely a dealer like Arthur would be instantly curious of the make and model of motor.
This must be the episode where Arthur makes the most amount of money in one go. So he can actually pay off Dave. GC often said that Arthur never made any real money from his wheeling and dealing schemes, the implication that he only survived off his car sales and 'straight' business interests, but here is a rare exception.
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Post by pr1 on Jan 25, 2021 15:13:31 GMT
I had no memory of this episode when I sat down to watch it again last night. Very enjoyable. Arthur’s rendition of “My Way” is amusing.
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Post by running16 on Feb 12, 2021 21:20:02 GMT
Great episode. Always has a feeling Arthur would come out on top in the end. Didn't recognise Johnny Lee Miller. 5/5.
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Post by ltd on Apr 16, 2021 19:22:55 GMT
Not that keen on this one. All a bit contrived. and ultimately anti-climactic. As ever with Minder there are still some good moments e.g the wonderfully sardonic auctioneer, Arthur's bemusement at the greyhound's failure to perform and "You been at the model airplane glue again?".
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Post by bigaitch on May 13, 2021 17:59:56 GMT
I loved this one, it was excellent seeing Arthur with Rays help getting one over on the three blokes who had conned him. Ten grand for a Trabant is really funny....although I am looking at buying one myself and hopefully will secure one much cheaper.
Some really good characters in this, The auctioneer, the breeder (Big Stan), Bouncing Morrie, etc really enjoyable.
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Post by freddiefenton on Jul 12, 2021 11:50:09 GMT
Enjoyed this episode on ITV 4 this morning. Not watched the GW episodes for ages, and tbh I have tended to stay away from them, unfairly as it turns out. Thought the story was a bit contrived but still entertaining nonetheless. Didn't realise David Jackson was in this one too!
Ray certainly found a better class of girl!
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Post by 615 on Jul 12, 2021 21:43:26 GMT
It reminded me of Only Fools in parts. The outside of the Auction rooms when they showed them at first reminded me of the ones in the chandelier episode. I could quite easily see this all happening to Del and Rodney
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Post by ltd on Jul 14, 2021 9:36:38 GMT
It reminded me of Only Fools in parts. The outside of the Auction rooms when they showed them at first reminded me of the ones in the chandelier episode. I could quite easily see this all happening to Del and Rodney I do think some of the GW episodes edge into Only Fools and Horses territory, especially when Ray starts going on about "Fam-ur-lee" although it never reaches the depths of rank sentimentality OFAH sadly stooped to. You know when Arthur starts waxing lyrical about his nearest and dearest it's only a prelude to some emotional blackmail and/or putting the bite on one of his less savvy relations. |
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Post by Barrel on Dec 14, 2021 23:09:55 GMT
The first 5 episodes of season 8 were very good imo on this first rewatch for 30 years...excellent and it seemed very fresh at the time...Minder was definitely in the early 90s here....the background music...the card game...all seemed of the time....so far I'm liking how season 8 is giving Arthur the respect he never seemed to quite have with Terry sniping away :-)....Ray's double cross was superb...showing he had so many more layers and skills, than Terry though obviously not the same fighter as Tel, he's far more intelligent, educated, resourceful and shrewd....oh and e"s family!
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Post by manta on Apr 18, 2023 8:40:10 GMT
I really enjoyed this. An excellent plot - a bit different from usual - but plausible that a bunch of Arthur's victims would get together to get their own back. Indeed you need to gloss over the acceptance of the log book at the card school but hey - it's not a documentary. It rolled along at just the right pace, with Arthur (and Ray) taking a while to work out what was happening. Much as Arthur planned to get back at them, his only real contribution was the idea of putting Bertie out to stud - which was great and then faltered and then revived by the doppelgangers - can't believe they are still calling them that! Ray pulling exactly the same stroke back on them was very well done with Arthur played like a good 'un at the finish. Ten grand for a Trabant back then - ouch. And then Arthur mangling My Way in the Winchester - words as well as tune. With Morley arriving just in time to get his hands messy on the newly varnished banisters. Dave was pretty active in this one as well, going from wanting to throttle Arthur (nothing new there), the usual joining the dots for the plot and then gobsmacked when Arthur pays cash for drinks and gives him a wedge as part of his shareholding. So my first Excellent for a Ray episode. Good stuff.
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Post by manta on Apr 19, 2023 7:43:13 GMT
As ever with Minder there are still some good moments e.g. "You been at the model airplane glue again?". ...........although wouldn't Arthur actually have said "You been at the Airfix glue again?" and then we could have panned to Ray who could have said "Of course, other model airplane brands are available". |
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Post by ltd on Apr 19, 2023 10:08:20 GMT
As ever with Minder there are still some good moments e.g. "You been at the model airplane glue again?". ...........although wouldn't Arthur actually have said "You been at the Airfix glue again?" and then we could have panned to Ray who could have said "Of course, other model airplane brands are available". Only if they were on the BBC...which they weren't. |
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Post by ontheslate on Apr 19, 2023 10:59:57 GMT
Out of interest why did they call the hotdogs doppelgängers?
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Post by manta on Apr 19, 2023 12:29:05 GMT
This was Arthur in an episode or two before - he thought that was the German term for these type of sausages and that Dave should serve them in the Winchester............
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Post by mlynn on Aug 13, 2023 23:26:51 GMT
I loved this episode when it was first broadcast and watched it again last night! Good to see Shelley's landlord from "The Return Of Shelley" David Ryall as Ashley Brown. >Out of interest why did they call the hotdogs doppelgängers? Rhyming slang for bangers? Or maybe they're so bad they have a habit of repeating on you so you'll see them again! Bertie the greyhound reminds me of Gonzales in the Leeds Liquid Gold advert: The poor woman in the park: "Your dog just assaulted my prize bitch and she wasn't even in season!"  In the lockup: A Sanyo Portable Deluxe Model 12-T280 (we had one of these "portable tellies" in the bedroom at the time) and an Amstrad PPC640. They made a bit of a mess of Dave's bannister (bannisters are expensive to repair). Probably no need to remove the side posts, only the end. Good to see Arthur and Ray getting even! |
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Post by manta on Aug 14, 2023 16:52:22 GMT
Love the ad, mlynn - I was abroad much of the 90s and missed most of those! |
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