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Post by heredia1 on May 25, 2020 16:46:48 GMT
First critical post from me I think but have to say this was for me the most disappointing episde to date in the whole series, the story line was simply uninteresting, none of the characters were in any way memorable and very few laughs save for the answering machine scenes, not at all the "real" minder
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Post by eddienygma92 on Nov 2, 2020 9:16:50 GMT
This was a nice episode. I recorded it off ITV4 just to see Janet and Patrick as I love DW.
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Post by steve74 on Dec 5, 2020 11:24:14 GMT
Not one of my favourite episodes, the main story just didn't grip me. I found myself not really caring about Roddy's plight and the resolution was disappointing. Even more than usual I missed Arthur and Terry when they were not on the screen, but when they were their scenes was as good as ever. The opening scene with Arthur installing Dave's answering machine was golden - "that's Harry Secombe". Also enjoyed Arthur's 'Daley Workout' and the sight of him in tracksuit and trilby was hilarious. But overall these side stories didn't make up for a main story that disappoints. 3 out of 5.
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Post by plasticpenguin on Jan 3, 2021 11:24:37 GMT
I quite like it. Doesn't have the bite of the best, and Tony Anholt's accent is dodgy, although nice to see him outside of The Protectors. Think it does, also, lack Chisholm's input, which is superb in most of his episodes.
7/10
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Post by barrythebook on Jan 3, 2021 20:55:23 GMT
I caught the second half of this today and the scene of Arthur eventually confessing to Terry that he'd given Petselli Terrys address had me laughing out loud. "You know me Terry, I had a go!" "No he wont be there ye...." "How d'you know that?" "Pardon?" "Did you tell him where I live?" "No, no, no,no." "DID YOU?" "Yeah."
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Post by chopper on Jan 3, 2021 21:57:56 GMT
I have always found this an average episode, but with a few genuinely hilarious moments.
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Post by plasticpenguin on Jan 5, 2021 12:46:45 GMT
I caught the second half of this today and the scene of Arthur eventually confessing to Terry that he'd given Petselli Terrys address had me laughing out loud. "You know me Terry, I had a go!" "No he wont be there ye...." "How d'you know that?" "Pardon?" "Did you tell him where I live?" "No, no, no,no." "DID YOU?" "Yeah." Classic Arthur.
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Post by efc1985 on Mar 17, 2021 18:57:25 GMT
I presume the title 'Windows' is a play on the ITV series 'Widows' that debuted early 1983
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Post by bigaitch on May 15, 2021 19:35:39 GMT
I think this was very average. The pictures of Daley Thompson as means of publicising the Daley workout is hilarious but very little. As others have said, Roddy is a very annoying character and it would have been good to see Petselli knocked out by Terry. It just seems to plod along and then peters out at the end.
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Post by BMW on May 27, 2021 10:29:49 GMT
Anyone know who played Petselli’s other girlfriend, the blonde job that jumps out of the cab in the black catsuit? Lovely cheekbones 😉
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Post by dj on May 27, 2021 18:02:50 GMT
One thing that always pops in my mind when this episode is repeated, the plant Terry holds is supposed to be Marijuana, yet looks absolutely nothing like it. We have all watched the cops doing busts on lots of different TV shows, to legally know what it looks really looks like😉.
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Post by barrythebook on May 27, 2021 20:31:33 GMT
One thing that always pops in my mind when this episode is repeated, the plant Terry holds is supposed to be Marijuana, yet looks absolutely nothing like it. Could there have been a ruling or law which said that the 'real thing' wasn't aloud to be used or shown? I don't know, only guessing.
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Post by steve99 on May 28, 2021 20:02:55 GMT
Never made the Widows connection - I'd always thought it was an odd title to use. When watching this episode on its original broadcast, I recall finding it a bit 'cold', both in terms of the lead supporting character Roddy and the main story. By that I mean Roddy wasn't likeable or interesting in any way (you wouldn't have sympathised with him even if Laura had had loads of affairs) and the central storyline wasn't strong enough to draw me in.
Other than Janice and Louise, the other supporting characters such as Roddy's cousins and Johnny Petselli didn't add anything worthwhile. The cousins just came across as a bit dopey and Petselli is revealed to be a wannabe when he says he only hired the flash car Terry is about to wash with the door open. The feeling I get from this episode is that it was a flimsy plot held up the subplot of Arthur's fitness venture.
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Post by jjmolloy on May 28, 2021 22:36:16 GMT
Always a mystery to me that Stephen Rea, an Irishman, was playing a Scotsman! Surely it would have been easier to have the character as Irish as his nationality wasn't central to the plot.
Minder trivia, Stephen is the only actor to appear in Minder to have received an Academy Award nomination for Best Actor. The Crying Game (1992)
He lost out to Al Pacino at the 1993 Oscars.
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Post by steve99 on May 29, 2021 17:11:01 GMT
Maybe Roddy was rewritten as a Scotsman as they already had several Irish characters in the fourth series with A Well Fashioned Fit-Up (although I don't know how far in advance episodes were arranged) if they later thought another Irish character may have 'clashed' with Fit-Up. However, if Roddy was always intended to be a Scot, I'm not sure why they didn't just cast a Scottish actor. Stephen Rea's accent was fairly good but an impersonation is never going to replace the real thing, wherever the accent is from.
I'd meant to say in my previous post that Arthur should've left me minding the fitness club with the three instructors, albeit I couldn't guarantee there wouldn't have been some didgy business occurring. Catherine Rabett's specs, seen on the first page of this thread, were later used by Arthur to replace the headlamps on one of his motors. Talk about large lenses.
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Post by jjmolloy on May 29, 2021 19:54:44 GMT
Maybe Roddy was rewritten as a Scotsman as they already had several Irish characters in the fourth series with A Well Fashioned Fit-Up (although I don't know how far in advance episodes were arranged) if they later thought another Irish character may have 'clashed' with Fit-Up. However, if Roddy was always intended to be a Scot, I'm not sure why they didn't just cast a Scottish actor. Stephen Rea's accent was fairly good but an impersonation is never going to replace the real thing, wherever the accent is from. I'd meant to say in my previous post that Arthur should've left me minding the fitness club with the three instructors, albeit I couldn't guarantee there wouldn't have been some didgy business occurring. Catherine Rabett's specs, seen on the first page of this thread, were later used by Arthur to replace the headlamps on one of his motors. Talk about large lenses. Miss Rabett avoided a fate worse than Daley, she dated Prince Andrew.
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Post by 615 on Oct 28, 2021 10:37:25 GMT
I'm surprised that nobody's commented on Arthur's scene with Terry and Janice- ''You know him; you know of him; I've never seen him before in my life but it's my mirror he smashes''. I think that's right up there with Cowley's '' For your information Bodie there is no such thing as a particularly good pure malt scotch; they're all damned good''
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Post by jjmolloy on Mar 18, 2022 23:04:54 GMT
A very hard watch this episode, for me anyway the Petselli's family squabbles are just too overwrought and out of character for the show, we've seen marital strife before on Minder of course.
Maurice Michaelson's domestic woes were played up for comic effect to a great extent, Beryl and Ronnie's in Not A Bad Lad Dad had a harder edge but for me just kept on the right side of being overly unpleasant. So warring couples have cropped up quite often over the years on the show.
But the arguments and general bad atmosphere with Roddy and Laura means this is the only Minder episode that I won't watch if I chance on it on ITV4. A pity as Arthur's Daley Workout is vintage Minder.
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Post by kelotoph on Jan 26, 2023 15:57:51 GMT
Quite enjoyed this episode, albeit it was not classic Minder. The answering-machine scene at the beginning was amusing as was the fitness studio above a welding shop. I'm sure the use of Daley Thompson's image was hooky! I particularly enjoyed looking at Katie Rabett! The plot line of Roddy & Laura's marital strife was perhaps not the best basis for a strong episode and as others have said, Terry giving the jumped-up would-be mafioso a hiding would have made it grittier. I'm not sure that a genuine first-generation Italian family would ever serve spaghetti bolognaise (as referred to by Roddy), as I believe it's an English invention (I stand to be corrected though!). I liked Arthur's swift closing of the cash-box to hide from the girls how much the studio had taken.
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Post by metro1962 on Mar 9, 2023 16:06:47 GMT
Kate was a certain royal's ex girlfriend and she did look nice in a leotard.😉
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Post by geoffc on Nov 15, 2023 21:29:47 GMT
+1 in agreement with those that felt this episode didn't quite hit the spot. The bitterness and acrimony between Laura and Roddy ran as an unhappy and unresolved story line throughout. Roddy came across as rather a nasty piece of work and didn't really get the put-down he deserved. It was all left hanging in the air which was rather unsatisfactory in my view. I didn't mind so much the story was a bit darker than usual - a series needs light and shade. There was humour to be found - I liked the suitably OTT Italian Mama Mancini, Petselli as a powder puff wannabe gangster and Roddy's dozy cousins. GC on good form as Arthur. 3.5 out of 5 - rounded down to "average"
Just to add - the title "Windows" . I first thought it was a reference to all the broken glass rather than a Euston/Thames in-joke. Does anyone have the actual SP ?
Edit - Should have mentioned Laura's riposte to Petselli's delusional ideas of gangsterdom - " So - Supplying fruit and veg to the mafia ? "
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Post by coyote on Nov 15, 2023 22:31:30 GMT
Agree with a lot of the above hence voting it "average" - some nice moments but A&T play supporting roles to a bunch of unsympathetic idiots with few redeeming features. But at least Terry gets a (kind of) win in this one when he gets one over Petselli.
One of the endearing things about Minder is that you want the protagonists to succeed even if you know they probably won't, but here you either want the (guest) protagonists to get their comeuppance or simply to fall flat on their a**es. Total opposite of Confident Clive in the following series who's a pathological liar, bigamist and generally untrustworthy but you somehow worry about him getting a spanking and generally want him to be OK.
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