denzel
One Of Your Own
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Post by denzel on Aug 20, 2019 17:38:10 GMT
Another fine episode, not classic Terry years at it's best, but still a bit of a classic nonetheless. Will be remembered mostly for the song featured in it, but also for a few other things, at least for me:
- Tony Hoare wrote this. He's done some great episodes throughout Minder's run, to be sure.
- Mike Holoway has one of those familiar boats. Off the top of my head, only other place I can recall seeing him was in a show called Pauline's Quirkes, as himself. He has that pop star look to him, so darn well cast in this episode.
- Ok, so the white whistle happened to have been years before Smooth Criminal/Moonwalker hit. But come on..."oooow"! Who else thought this might have been channeling/responding to Michael Jackson?
- Nice intro to Mellish, who does well here...and Tony Hoare seems to have contrived the naming of him for Rycott's line...this is not exactly the sort of investigation I relish, Mellish.
- Hilarious moment when Arthur hurts his hand, and yells, ooooh..to which Terry, perhaps not noticing, replies that the tune is catchy, innit.
- Liked how Arthur hides his face from the returning punter at the lot, and a great moment with Rycott, when Daley walks past him...and gets him wondering if it could possibly have been him.
- An oddity in this episode, with Arthur calling Sharon, "Share-on". Not sure if this is a legit pronunciation, or another of Daley's dodgy ones, but he does call the other Sharon the same, in Monday Night Fever.
- Nobody's perfect, and Hoare's writing in this is poor in parts..particularly, the girlfriend's explanation on how they took advantage of finding what seems to be an exact clone of Zac, not to mention how they thought they'd get away with it, i.e that the actual fellow wouldn't be identified as someone other than Zac..sorry, but simply not believable at all...though that is only an issue if you've actually thought about it.
- Great stuff with the "artistes" at the studio...love the first one, "Clarence", and his bizarre English diction..sounds like he's using more posh diction than that posh version of The Firm's Daley tune!
- Nothing wrong with Mel Smith's performance at all. Actually, I'd half expected to hear complaints about it, like how people didn't buy Rene from Allo Allo as a fat hard man. But Mel's menacing manner probably made the difference.
- And I'd have to say, a somewhat poor ending, to a somewhat different episode than usual..bizarre in places.
- Some people notice cars, but I tend to notice the geekier things; there's an Atari 2600 box sitting in Daley's lockup.
What does Gorn mean in the title? Yeah, I believe it's "gone", as said earlier. Arthur says gorn from time to time..one instance is in Poetic Justice Innit..it's gorn, it's all gorn! Alternatively: the Gorn is the creature Captain Kirk famously fought..but that's neither here nor there..  |
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Post by barrythebook on Oct 13, 2019 14:15:26 GMT
Just watching ep3 of 'Widows'.
A girl is auditioning for a job in a strip joint and I'm sure that the track she's strutting her stuff to is Zack's big hit.
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logie
One Of Your Own
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Post by logie on Mar 13, 2020 8:30:41 GMT
Enjoyed this, better than I remembered. S4 started well, for me, with the first 2 episodes, but then plateaued out a bit until this one. Tony Hoare does seem to be the most consistent writer overall. I always forget just how good an actor Mel Smith was, until I watch him in something. Another strong performance here from him and a decent debut from Mellish (I elaborate on this in the Chisholm & Jones thread).
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Post by nationalpelmet on May 17, 2020 20:42:19 GMT
Poor old Arthur needs help to get off the low sofa at the record company office. Good job Terry is there again !!
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steve74
Winchester Regular
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Post by steve74 on May 30, 2020 14:20:35 GMT
A nice little episode with a good turn by Mel Smith as Cyril Ash. It all revolves around a missing master tape that has come into Arthur's possession which could prove to be a nice little earner (until he ends up demagnetising it). Arthur has some great lines in this episode. I love his outrage when he thinks he has been lumbered with "500 copies of some unknown gurgling degenerate". I like Mel Smith's performance as Zac's manager and his business arrangement for Arthur "You give me the tape or I'll smash your kneecaps". - "Very reasonable, very reasonable indeed" haha love it. Just a quick mention for one of my favourite Rycott lines "This is not the sort of investigation I relish, Melish" - great delivery. 4 out of 5.
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Post by pr1 on Jun 29, 2020 4:08:56 GMT
I still like Arthur’s contempt for pop music until he thinks he can make money from it and I like all the name mangling he does in the episode.
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c79
On Wages
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Post by c79 on Jul 28, 2020 15:12:29 GMT
When Arthur corrects Terry's "That's the difference between you and me.." to "..between you and I, Terence..", Arthur is grammatically wrong and Terry is correct. Maybe Tony Hoare threw in a little joke for the grammarians! (Taken me until now to spot it, mind!)
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Post by pr1 on Jul 28, 2020 16:19:24 GMT
When Arthur corrects Terry's "That's the difference between you and me.." to "..between you and I, Terence..", Arthur is grammatically wrong and Terry is correct. Maybe Tony Hoare threw in a little joke for the grammarians! (Taken me until now to spot it, mind!) I think it was an intentional joke because Arthur has previously been shown to mangle the English language and rules of basic grammar at times. |
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Post by lecoyote on Jul 28, 2020 22:11:19 GMT
Enjoyed this more today than I have in the past, Mel Smith in particular was excellent. Nice debut from Mellish as well. In case anyone doesn't know, as well as being a comedian and actor, MS was also a very accomplished film director and noted bon viveur. Dropped dead at 60 but packed a lot of life into his years  |
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c79
On Wages
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Post by c79 on Aug 12, 2020 11:38:05 GMT
When Arthur corrects Terry's "That's the difference between you and me.." to "..between you and I, Terence..", Arthur is grammatically wrong and Terry is correct. Maybe Tony Hoare threw in a little joke for the grammarians! (Taken me until now to spot it, mind!) I think it was an intentional joke because Arthur has previously been shown to mangle the English language and rules of basic grammar at times. Yes I think you're right pr1. |
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Post by nickeccles on Sept 28, 2020 22:37:32 GMT
I love the ever so 80's 'Promo Video' of Zolar in the ubiquitous derelict warehouse donning a stupid hat & outrageous costume coupled with the usual video effects of that time! For me, another great episode with Mel Smith & the rest of em - it definitely transports me back to a more innocent time in my life! Minder was always & still is my favourite television program of all time While GC & DW are both true heroes of mine that I always enjoyed watching over the years! I've carried in my head so many of the one liners & used em to death! I still do to this day..............
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Post by joshmel on Oct 2, 2020 17:54:26 GMT
I recognised the street Mel smith drives down straight away. I stayed in a hotel called the pembrigde palace hotel a few years ago on the same street . Love that little pocket of London in Bayswater. Prince Edward pub to the top end.
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Post by arthurdaley on Dec 27, 2020 11:14:36 GMT
Is that George Cole's Winnebago?
Around the 16 minute mark, Arthur leaves the Barbers with Billy. When they cross the road to Arthur's Jag, the front end of a Winnebago can clearly be seen in the background(not the white camper van). I fancy it was used as Arthur's dressing room for the scenes both inside and outside of the B ![]() arbers. |
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Post by daz on Jan 4, 2021 18:45:16 GMT
Watched this one today, very enjoyable.
Love Mel Smith in this, but overall the plot is a little weak to give it full marks.
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