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Post by eightiesclassic on Mar 19, 2019 11:17:05 GMT
Presumably James Cosmo, being given at least a quid for every time he's been asked to play a threatening Scots hardnut, retired a millionaire several years ago..and why not, to be that menacing when offering someone cornflakes is the mark of genius. Also, to echo the sentiments of everyone else - Lionel Jeffries is a joy to watch, and in the company of GC et al, it's a dream ticket. Mind you, the Eddie Kidd style shenanigans up and down the footbridge steps took a bit of swallowing! I think just pootling off in the other direction with two fingers in the air would've struck a truer note! As for 'Girl in Pub', this would've been in Ms Taylforth's 'On Safari' days, presumably just before the phone call from Albert Square. Bizarrely, her stint with Biggins on said kids' show isn't listed on her IMDB profile; you can try and forget, madam, but we'll remember.. I always enjoy the scene where Arthur tries to get Terry to drive the Rolls-Royce and then sits in the back of the car! I like the way Arthur sits in the back like he's the Lord of the Manor, waiting for Terry to drive off! "Aw, it's just a joke, Terry.." yeah, right..!
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Post by denzel on Jul 30, 2019 2:44:45 GMT
I've said it before but I think GC has got to be the most convincing 'drunk' actor I've seen. yes, that's certainly something I've noticed. Brilliant. Always had a strange affinity for this one. Tend to agree with most of what's been said above. I went back and saw this one today, largely because I wanted to see Arthur and Jock's scenes again, which have stuck out in my mind, and I wasn't disappointed there..but there were some other great points this time as well: - Great moment when Arthur offers to call the car deal off, trying to grab back the gifts of Scotch from Johnny.
- Lionel Jeffries did great as Cecil, with lines like "monstrosity of a gaff" and "a right strait jacket merchant if ever I saw one" somehow sticking out.
- Keith Barron's character was fun to see, for me. Always great seeing how Arthur copes with being manhandled, with Terry absent. And just got to love Arthur's reaction to the "It won't happen to me" poster.
- Good stuff from Dave, between his corniche pastie line, and his vacuuming to give Arthur privacy on the dog.
- Once again, Arthur is cowering to the side at a punch-up, and has the line, "Oh mahgawd, the Vatman"!
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Post by jno on Jul 30, 2019 4:21:53 GMT
I've said it before but I think GC has got to be the most convincing 'drunk' actor I've seen. yes, that's certainly something I've noticed. Brilliant. Always had a strange affinity for this one. Tend to agree with most of what's been said above. I went back and saw this one today, largely because I wanted to see Arthur and Jock's scenes again, which have stuck out in my mind, and I wasn't disappointed there..but there were some other great points this time as well: - Great moment when Arthur offers to call the car deal off, trying to grab back the gifts of Scotch from Johnny.
- Lionel Jeffries did great as Cecil, with lines like "monstrosity of a gaff" and "a right strait jacket merchant if ever I saw one" somehow sticking out.
- Keith Barron's character was fun to see, for me. Always great seeing how Arthur copes with being manhandled, with Terry absent. And just got to love Arthur's reaction to the "It won't happen to me" poster.
- Good stuff from Dave, between his corniche pastie line, and his vacuuming to give Arthur privacy on the dog.
- Once again, Arthur is cowering to the side at a punch-up, and has the line, "Oh mahgawd, the Vatman"!
Summed up perfectly there denzel!
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Post by Shot By Both Sides on Oct 29, 2019 16:35:51 GMT
On today. 5/5. Cracking episode. Gillian Taylforth in it and all if I'm not mistaken. What a character Cecil was too.
Terry: "We're going out on the river on Cecil's boat".
Arthur: "What's it called?"
Terry looks at Cecil.
Cecil : "The Thames"
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Post by barrythebook on Oct 29, 2019 21:33:54 GMT
I caught this today and noticed a bit of dialogue that I've not heard before. When Cecil and Terry are going up the steps of the footbridge toward the boat Cecil says "I'm not being cut up by a purple Ford Capri etc." and in all the times I've watched the episode I can't remember hearing it before on dvd or tv showings.
Is it always included and I've not noticed it?
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Post by logie on Feb 26, 2020 13:58:52 GMT
2 episodes into S4 and I've enjoyed them both much more than I was expecting. Didn't remember this one being so good. Lionel Jeffries as eccentric old man conning everyone in sight, including his awful family to ride off into the sunset (literally) with his gorgeous secretary half his age. What a way to go!
Side story with the whisk(e)y was amusing too. Also got vey nostalgic when I saw the poster for the 'Marvellous Maestro' behind Arthur at one point - my dad used to have one of them...
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Post by barrythebook on Feb 26, 2020 20:01:37 GMT
Side story with the whisk(e)y was amusing too. One of the best side stories imo. Arthur coming out of Jocks club and getting into the Rolls is hilarious and brilliantly acted. GC doesn't put a foot wrong whilst acting completely slaughtered, he gets it spot on.
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Post by logie on Feb 27, 2020 7:46:53 GMT
Always remembered the Whisky side-story as being particularly good. Just didn't remember that it was part of this episode.
I've been mulling over it, and I think this is a classic case of an episode that changes over time and your perceptions. When I first saw it, I would have been in my 20s, and thought the Lionel Jeffries character was a senile old fool who unjustifiably screwed his family out of what was rightfully theirs; now, in my mid 40s, I think Cecil Caine is a wily old fox, and his narcissistic offspring got exactly what they deserved - nothing, other than having to sort out the mess he'd left them in (which they brought upon themselves through laziness and greed), while he enjoyed the fruits of his labour.
Karma at its best!
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Post by McCann on Feb 27, 2020 8:23:33 GMT
Memorable episode thanks to Lionel Jeffries and the whisky club.
When Verity Lambert died in 2007 this was the episode they showed as a tribute to her on BBC4. So it's obviously highly regarded. Minder on the BBC that was a one off I think.
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Post by barrythebook on Feb 27, 2020 19:37:22 GMT
I think Cecil Caine is a wily old fox, and his narcissistic offspring got exactly what they deserved - while he enjoyed the fruits of his labour. Absolutely. Cecil knew he was being stuffed but he was one step ahead and had plans in place.
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Post by Albert Wendell on Feb 29, 2020 14:27:08 GMT
2 episodes into S4 and I've enjoyed them both much more than I was expecting. You're in for a treat then as there are more great episodes to come in series 4, the final two (Get Daley and A Well Fashioned Fit Up) are amazing, Minder at its best.
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Post by coyote on Mar 31, 2020 15:48:46 GMT
Arthur: "Both of them?!" Terry (smiles): "Yeah" Arthur: "At the same time?" Terry: "Yeah" Arthur: "You tired?" Seen this one many times, lots to like about it
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Post by steve74 on May 1, 2020 20:16:53 GMT
So many brilliant lines in this episode. One of my favourites is when Arthur pulls up in his Rolls Royce and is approached by the beggar and is asked for £5 for a cup of tea - "where are you going the Savoy?". As mentioned by others, the drunk scene after leaving Jock's club is perfect. Loved the scene when Arthur sits in the back of the Corniche expecting Terry to chauffeur him around. Comedy gold! 4.5 out of 5.
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Post by harryshand on Jul 6, 2020 12:03:57 GMT
...and Arthur emerging from 'Jocks Club' is hilarious. I've said it before but I think GC has got to be the most convincing 'drunk' actor I've seen. He just makes it look so natural and realistic. Brilliant. Ditto that - GC is the best on screen drunk I've ever seen.
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Post by harryshand on Jul 6, 2020 12:05:47 GMT
This is a brilliant episode, Lionel Jeffries looks like he's having the time of his life performing in this one. I'd love to know how many out takes this episode has.
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Post by harryshand on Jul 21, 2020 15:06:46 GMT
15 days is long enough between viewings of this classic. Here we go again.
The Japanese do some amazing whisky these days, not sure about when this was filmed, but some of their malts match anything from the Celtic nations.
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Post by jjmolloy on Jul 21, 2020 15:45:29 GMT
15 days is long enough between viewings of this classic. Here we go again. The Japanese do some amazing whisky these days, not sure about when this was filmed, but some of their malts match anything from the Celtic nations. Filming was in July/August 1983.
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Post by harryshand on Jul 21, 2020 15:53:52 GMT
15 days is long enough between viewings of this classic. Here we go again. The Japanese do some amazing whisky these days, not sure about when this was filmed, but some of their malts match anything from the Celtic nations. Filming was in July/August 1983. Long before I started drinking uisce beatha jjmolloy. I do recall Japanese whisky being a long running joke in various programmes of the era but I'm sceptical that it was ever that bad going off today's quality.
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Post by c79 on Jul 22, 2020 14:42:04 GMT
Just watching this one now...the very basic board giving the bar prices in 'Jocks Club' shows Guiness at '41'- pence a pint I presume. Well spotted Barry. A pint of Guinness in 1983 in London was 80-90p (we dreaded the inevitable £1 a pint), so 41p was great value in Jock's club. (Unless it was for a small can or bottle!)
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Post by jjmolloy on Jul 22, 2020 15:11:15 GMT
Just watching this one now...the very basic board giving the bar prices in 'Jocks Club' shows Guiness at '41'- pence a pint I presume. Well spotted Barry. A pint of Guinness in 1983 in London was 80-90p (we dreaded the inevitable £1 a pint), so 41p was great value in Jock's club. (Unless it was for a small can or bottle!) Having worked in a London pub around that time myself it may have been watered of course! Or worse it may have been slops...
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Post by c79 on Jul 22, 2020 15:27:42 GMT
Well spotted Barry. A pint of Guinness in 1983 in London was 80-90p (we dreaded the inevitable £1 a pint), so 41p was great value in Jock's club. (Unless it was for a small can or bottle!) Having worked in a London pub around that time myself it may have been watered of course! Or worse it may have been slops... Yes indeed jj!
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Post by barrythebook on Jul 23, 2020 16:42:10 GMT
Just watching this one now...the very basic board giving the bar prices in 'Jocks Club' shows Guiness at '41'- pence a pint I presume. Well spotted Barry. A pint of Guinness in 1983 in London was 80-90p (we dreaded the inevitable £1 a pint), so 41p was great value in Jock's club. (Unless it was for a small can or bottle!) Going slightly off topic here, (sorry)but talking of the dreaded £1-00 a pint, I can remember my dear old Dad going nuts when petrol hit £1-00 per gallon. That's GALLON mind, not litre! I'm trying to remember when, I reckon early 80s?
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Post by gustav on Jul 23, 2020 23:20:42 GMT
Saw this the other day on ITV4 - for the first time. Thought it was a really good episode. Lionel Jeffries and GC both excellent and James Cosmo and the Jock's Club were great.
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Post by barrythebook on Jul 25, 2020 13:23:12 GMT
James Cosmo and the Jock's Club were great. Arthur leaving Jock's Club after 'having breakfast' is absolute Minder gold! Jock's Club is a wonderful location too, i'd loved to have visited a place like this back in the day.
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Post by gustav on Jul 25, 2020 21:07:53 GMT
James Cosmo was made to play Jock.
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Post by BMW on Aug 12, 2020 14:01:15 GMT
Won’t repeat what’s already been said but surprised nobody’s mentioned the scene where Arthur is pretending to be sick in the kharzi at Jonnie’s garage. The noises he makes trying to sound convincing are hilarious.
Also when he’s trying to punt out the whiskey to Dave, who asks him how he came about it, Arthur makes up some bunny about regular visits from his MP, Terry chips in with a snide remark about Arthur being well acquainted with his member! Scripted or ad-lib?
@jno is it in that draft you have a copy of?
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Post by leaveitoutjohn on Aug 12, 2020 21:07:46 GMT
I'd like to know how Cecil/Johnny managed to book a funeral for the next day.It normally takes about a week
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Post by wayne2467 on Aug 13, 2020 21:01:36 GMT
Just rewatched this one - great episode - thought Terry was in with the lady who rode off into the sunset with Cecil
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Post by barrythebook on Aug 15, 2020 2:45:41 GMT
Just rewatched this one - great episode - thought Terry was in with the lady who rode off into the sunset with Cecil I think he could have been - but Cecil had more money
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Now dipping back in and watching any episode I fancy - in any order!! Naughty!
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Post by myinspiration on Sept 14, 2020 22:10:04 GMT
Watching this for the second time in several years....didn't really want to. I can't stand the Lionel Jefferies character - he is rude, obtuse, abrasive, and talks in a very annoying way! However, Keith Barron saves the episode by being a bit of a wide boy/hard man. I agree with the above posters....the Jock subplot lends itself to some hilarious humour.
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