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Post by barrythebook on Oct 9, 2017 19:25:04 GMT
You'll also pick up little gems that you missed on first viewing pr. None of us can take in everything the first time around. You'll pick up especially on facial expressions, body language and the often unscripted interaction between GC and DW.
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Post by pr1 on Oct 9, 2017 19:27:30 GMT
You'll also pick up little gems that you missed on first viewing pr. None of us can take in everything the first time around. You'll pick up especially on facial expressions, body language and the often unscripted interaction between GC and DW. You definetly pick up on new things and get to enjoy previous great things again. A no loose situation.
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Post by jno on Feb 8, 2018 10:53:32 GMT
Euston Films were doing a spiffing job with animal training in this episode.
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 8, 2018 11:09:02 GMT
Well observed jno.
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 12, 2018 9:41:47 GMT
Just watching this on ITV4 as good as first time I watched it.
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Post by McCann on Feb 13, 2018 9:23:51 GMT
A definite contender for best episode of Minder. Certainly top 2 or 3 for me. Superb. Apart from all the great lines from Arthur, it has the boxing backstory for Terry, one of the tastiest of Terry's ladies, Solider Atkins, and was written by Leon Griffiths. Faultless episode.
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 13, 2018 11:32:59 GMT
Mccann couldn't have put it better myself, up there with the very best.
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Post by westldner on Apr 26, 2018 1:44:12 GMT
Top episode, I have to say - I always thought this episode was where the series started to get more 80s rather than 70s style (I don't know why) but moves back to its origins where Terry actually gets in the ring again - top episode! Yeah, I noticed that. I thought the flash boxing shorts and the boxing arena, the way they removed all the classical elegant decoration and had that black board backdrop to the house Arthur buys, feels very focused like the show was tied of the street from the 70s. Don't think much about what's going on out there and feels cosy most of the time and im sure there's alot more.
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Post by westldner on May 4, 2018 20:01:10 GMT
Top episode, I have to say - I always thought this episode was where the series started to get more 80s rather than 70s style (I don't know why) but moves back to its origins where Terry actually gets in the ring again - top episode! I would have to ask, would you ever think that because Minder was an popular show when it airred that the production team were experimenting with the production quality of the filming. I can't find anything like this quality of the 80s filmed before Minder and that also includes in America also. It's almost like someone taken all the tips of filming from Minder. I'm trying so hard to find a show before Season 4 that's filmed and presented in the same way. Edit: I'll just have to add... I would think because at the time, they may have had a culture of sharp quality photos in magazines which were sometimes glossy and the photos were more focused on the objects, so the producers may have been in the mood to make the show in an 80s look when they had the chance. I went out to find some photos from the early 80s which may show that it may be the case: This was taken during 1981... well I hope so... doesn't look like an outdoor photo at the time... This photo was taken in 1982 or I hope so, I did a random search into google to find this... the photo is focused on the car. The car itself, the Austin Allergo was produced from 1973 to 1982... A living room, taken in 1981... well I hope so... I remember some houses were like this during the 1980s... the photo captures the busy patterns. I would say the sets in Minder weren't that busy on screen unless they have too. I'm aware the claim is out there but I think Minder was a show that was extremely popular and the producers wanted to put something new to the viewer production wise in terms of quality because the means was there for them to change how the filming worked for the show and maybe to set the bar of what video quality should be.
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Post by eightiesclassic on Mar 12, 2019 13:05:35 GMT
- Unusual to see Rycott in a Volvo - in the majority of later season episodes we normally see him in a Cavalier or Montego
His own private car, maybe? He did mention to Terry he's on his way home
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Post by jno on Mar 12, 2019 16:04:08 GMT
- Unusual to see Rycott in a Volvo - in the majority of later season episodes we normally see him in a Cavalier or Montego
His own private car, maybe? He did mention to Terry he's on his way home Early days in series 4 this one, I am sure that is the reason why.
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Post by eightiesclassic on Mar 13, 2019 9:19:06 GMT
A definite contender for best episode of Minder. Certainly top 2 or 3 for me. Superb. Apart from all the great lines from Arthur, it has the boxing backstory for Terry, one of the tastiest of Terry's ladies, Solider Atkins, and was written by Leon Griffiths. Faultless episode. Agreed. Christine Kavanagh is lovely indeed. I know she pops up in quite a few things here and there, but I seem to know her face from somewhere in particular - Just me, or was there an ad campaign for something around this time that she featured in..?
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Post by dcjones1 on Apr 7, 2019 21:45:38 GMT
They were nearly right. There are 8 Rocky films or should I say eight featuring Rocky Balboa. The last two focussed on Apollo Creed’s son. I’ve seen the first one of these. The scouse fighter Tony Bellew is quite good in it to be fair!
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Post by yoyopickles on Apr 13, 2019 14:00:45 GMT
I have seen this episode loads of times but only just noticed, that in the job centre scene, Arthur refers to 'er indoors as "'er indoors daley"
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Post by denzel on Jul 21, 2019 11:03:09 GMT
Just saw this episode again today. Definitely has a classic, landmark feel to the Terry years, if not the show as a whole. Agree with what's been said to date, many fantastic lines, not least of which was the famous "The world is your lobster my son" from Arthur Daley.
The job center scene, as well as Arthur and Nicky at Tel's new pad were great. The boxing scenes, as well as Terry's Rocky-esque training montage were well done, and Soldier Atkins was a good character too. Some good humour with the fight's doctor/dentist/all round competent medical professional as well.
One thing that bothers me though, is the "B plot" with Arthur: I'm sure I may be missing something here, but are we to understand that Harry just sold off a council flat, whether he'd been staying there or not, before a new tenant was about to enter? Because I would have to assume that lady was brand new, since she didn't even bat an eyelid at the change in decor, simply inquiring about Arthur himself instead. So not like she'd been on her holidays all this time, despite having a bag or two in tow. Lucky timing for Harry, that she didn't arrive earlier on the scene..which in any case, I assume Harry himself is doing a runner now, since surely he must assume Arthur would sic Terry upon him now, for this diabolical liberty taken where it hurts him the most?
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Post by VAT on Jul 21, 2019 13:45:02 GMT
One thing that bothers me though, is the "B plot" with Arthur: I'm sure I may be missing something here, but are we to understand that Harry just sold off a council flat, whether he'd been staying there or not, before a new tenant was about to enter? Because I would have to assume that lady was brand new, since she didn't even bat an eyelid at the change in decor, simply inquiring about Arthur himself instead. So not like she'd been on her holidays all this time, despite having a bag or two in tow. Lucky timing for Harry, that she didn't arrive earlier on the scene..which in any case, I assume Harry himself is doing a runner now, since surely he must assume Arthur would sic Terry upon him now, for this diabolical liberty taken where it hurts him the most? Interesting point denzel...must admit I always assumed (for some reason) she was Harry's wife and he was doing a runner and wanted some cash...hadn't occurred to me he might be flogging someones else's flat (he had clearly been staying there though, if only briefly)
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Post by denzel on Jul 21, 2019 13:45:50 GMT
Yes, top ep all the way Right to the end with Arthur trying to switch the TV on and disguising his attempt as trying to waft the smoke from his cigar away to his face right at the end when Terry says "What is this Dom Perignon anyway?" Pretty sure you'd mixed this up with the other big boxing episode, from series 2, I tend to do that as well sometimes
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Post by denzel on Jul 21, 2019 13:47:37 GMT
Interesting point denzel...must admit I always assumed (for some reason) she was Harry's wife and he was doing a runner and wanted some cash...hadn't occurred to me he might be flogging someones else's flat (he had clearly been staying there though, if only briefly) Thanks VAT, nice to know it isn't only me
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Post by VAT on Jul 21, 2019 13:54:40 GMT
Yes, top ep all the way Right to the end with Arthur trying to switch the TV on and disguising his attempt as trying to waft the smoke from his cigar away to his face right at the end when Terry says "What is this Dom Perignon anyway?" Pretty sure you'd mixed this up with the other big boxing episode, from series 2, I tend to do that as well sometimes Haha yeah wrong ep by me definitely (like you say, I do sometimes mix these two up!)
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Post by VAT on Aug 3, 2019 15:35:34 GMT
Just re-watching this ep on Umbrella - its a classic - the scenes inside the job center are just fabulous - "He thought the Job Center was a new pub..." Class
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Post by barrythebook on Aug 4, 2019 18:54:47 GMT
One thing that bothers me though, is the "B plot" with Arthur: I'm sure I may be missing something here, but are we to understand that Harry just sold off a council flat, whether he'd been staying there or not, before a new tenant was about to enter? Because I would have to assume that lady was brand new, since she didn't even bat an eyelid at the change in decor, simply inquiring about Arthur himself instead. So not like she'd been on her holidays all this time, despite having a bag or two in tow. Lucky timing for Harry, that she didn't arrive earlier on the scene..which in any case, I assume Harry himself is doing a runner now, since surely he must assume Arthur would sic Terry upon him now, for this diabolical liberty taken where it hurts him the most? I've always assumed that Harry has been kicked out of the flat or has given notice to the council and has then pulled a fast one on Arthur. As you say denzel, the lady who walks into the flat which Arthur assumes to be Harrys wife, is there for the first time in my opinion. Harry has conned Arthur out of a few quid and done a runner I reckon.
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Post by denzel on Aug 4, 2019 23:04:19 GMT
One thing that bothers me though, is the "B plot" with Arthur I've always assumed that Harry has been kicked out of the flat or has given notice to the council and has then pulled a fast one on Arthur. As you say denzel, the lady who walks into the flat which Arthur assumes to be Harrys wife, is there for the first time in my opinion. Harry has conned Arthur out of a few quid and done a runner I reckon. As you say, yes. Only it's been a few weeks now, so I'd have to drag this episode out again..but does Arthur actually say anything, that makes us think that he thinks that's Harry's wife? Because all I recall is her asking who Arthur was.
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Post by Wynn Chester on Aug 5, 2019 8:18:09 GMT
Lady: What are you? Squatter? I live here!Arthur: Oh no, not Harry's wife? I'm afraid you've been blown out my dear. If you will go off with double glazing salesmen, deserting the domestic home, I'm not surprised Harry sold the gaff...Lady: Sold? This is a council flat!
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Post by denzel on Aug 5, 2019 14:09:02 GMT
Thanks Wynn, Arthur definitely thought it was Harry's wife then Just as he also thought it was his flat.. An easy explanation anyhow is that it is Harry's wife, Harry somehow was aware that she'd be moving in, on that precise day, if not a little earlier even, "sells" the flat to Arthur and legs it, a bit sharpish.
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Post by leaveitoutjohn on Aug 22, 2019 7:07:22 GMT
Love the bit in the job centre where Terry needs some money.Arthur goes to get some out of his pocket then puts it straight back
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Post by jno on Nov 22, 2019 4:52:15 GMT
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Post by logie on Feb 25, 2020 9:27:24 GMT
I enjoyed this. One of the episodes I've not seen much, maybe only a couple of times - the last around 20 year ago. I didn't have much hope as the previous Boxing episode (Don't tell them Willie Boy is Here) is one of the weakest so far in my opinion; but this was a lot better. DW looking convincing in the boxing scenes, some good characters (Dirty Harry, Soldier Atkins, another welcome outing for Mr. Rycott and a very nice lady friend for Terry) this flowed nicely. The highlight was Terry's medical and the early Job Centre piece. The only downside, as jno alluded to is Ian McNiece - usually a very fine actor but mis-cast here with a very poor attempt at a Welsh accent.
But, all in all, a very good start to S4 (which, incidentally, I always think of as being possibly the worst Terry series - Willesden Suite & Get Daley I'm looking forward to, but the rest are pretty so-so as far as I remember. Hopefully there's some gems to come that have slipped from my memory...like this one!)
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Post by jno on Mar 19, 2020 16:57:44 GMT
As discussed on another thread (for registered users only), courtesy of minder.org following a tip off from our very own NickP, here is a cut scene from this episode around 11 minutes in, when we first see Arthur collect his new series 4 car. In the episode proper, the last line we hear is: I've even changed the air in the tyres as seen towards the bottom of the first script page shown below. This is Arthur with YOUNG BLACK in the script. Following this, the dialogue actually continues (and this was definitely filmed as an edited blooper appears as part of the outtakes on the Australian Umbrella DVD sets). Here is a picture of the outtake, together with HENRY, when George Cole says "folding green in your bin" and fails to get his seatbelt on. *CUT* As you can see from the dialogue, none of which comes directly from Arthur I hasten to add, it's clear why this page was expurgated.
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Post by nationalpelmet on May 17, 2020 20:56:28 GMT
Must have seen this one a lot but still love it. Some classic bits including when Arthur gets Terry to do his shirt cuff up when he’s got in on the medical. When he goes round to Terrys flat, finds Terrys girlfriend in the shower, “a well known bird bandits lair” and claims he’s “as liberal as the next man”. 😂 And to top it all after being stitched up over the flat, the jack rips his painting 🤭 Good to see Terry in the ring 🥊 and getting the win. I could go on and on !!
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Post by pr1 on Jun 8, 2020 0:04:03 GMT
I like Arthur's line to Terry, 'All right. You hit 'em on the chin and I'll hit 'em in the pocket book.' Arthur is talking about Terry's upcoming fight but it also fits the way he sees his relationship with his Minder at times.
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