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Post by nixonuk on Sept 16, 2005 20:52:13 GMT
In Rocky Eight and a Half - watch Arthur as Terry steams into the first round. It looks like he stumbles. Thing is George Cole is such a good actor he could have been mimicking it. I have not noticed it before.
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Post by steve99 on Aug 15, 2007 23:48:38 GMT
A post on another topic has reminded me of one of my favourite Minder episodes, Rocky 8½. The dialogue and supporting characters were excellent in this one.
For those who haven't see it for a while, the episode starts with Arthur trying to persuade Terry to appear on the bill of a pirate or unlicensed fight. This leads to a discussion about Terry's previous fights, and Terry says he could've been a contender. Arthur's reply to this is that Terry sounds like "him in On the Riverbank". Tel reckons he was hard done-by in his last big fight, but Arthur says he's lucky he wasn't nicked for overacting.
Terry agrees to box and Arthur says he needs a trainer, and the latter nominates one Soldier Atkins, although Terry has to force the name out of him. Terry says "Old Soldier?! I can hear it now - 'Tommy Farr, he was a good boy, and Len Harvey, what a gent, what a toff...'". Arthur tells him not to knock the old 'uns, but when they meet up with Soldier, he says almost exactly what Terry said he would. Arthur then challenges Terry to quiz him on his boxing knowledge - "I could go on the telly anytime with Agnus Magnus.....the Icelandic-Scotchman with the electric chair". The episode also features the character Dirty Harry (expertly played by George Innes), who thinks he's called this because he looks like Clint Eastwood, despite looking as much like Clint as Arthur does.
Arthur discovers the real reason for the nickname when he visits Harry's house, which is so untidy they can't find the cat (Arthur calls Harry's furniture "middle period Hilda Ogen"). There's also funny exchanges involving Arthur and a girl Terry met at the Job Centre - "Any more like you Miss and there'd be 4 million on the Old King Cole". This is also the episode with the famous "The world is your lobster" line from Arthur. Anyone else on the forum a fan of Rocky 8½?
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Post by jno on Aug 16, 2007 7:31:51 GMT
Top episode, I have to say - I always thought this episode was where the series started to get more 80s rather than 70s style (i don't know why) but moves back to its origins where Terry actually gets in the ring again - top episode!
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Post by maurice on Jan 21, 2008 22:53:29 GMT
A post on another topic has reminded me of one of my favourite Minder episodes, Rocky 8½. The dialogue and supporting characters were excellent in this one. For those who haven't see it for a while, the episode starts with Arthur trying to persuade Terry to appear on the bill of a pirate or unlicensed fight. This leads to a discussion about Terry's previous fights, and Terry says he could've been a contender. Arthur's reply to this is that Terry sounds like "him in On the Riverbank". Tel reckons he was hard done-by in his last big fight, but Arthur says he's lucky he wasn't nicked for overacting. Terry agrees to box and Arthur says he needs a trainer, and the latter nominates one Soldier Atkins, although Terry has to force the name out of him. Terry says "Old Soldier?! I can hear it now - 'Tommy Farr, he was a good boy, and Len Harvey, what a gent, what a toff...'". Arthur tells him not to knock the old 'uns, but when they meet up with Soldier, he says almost exactly what Terry said he would. Arthur then challenges Terry to quiz him on his boxing knowledge - "I could go on the telly anytime with Agnus Magnus.....the Icelandic-Scotchman with the electric chair". The episode also features the character Dirty Harry (expertly played by George Innes), who thinks he's called this because he looks like Clint Eastwood, despite looking as much like Clint as Arthur does. Arthur discovers the real reason for the nickname when he visits Harry's house, which is so untidy they can't find the cat (Arthur calls Harry's furniture "middle period Hilda Ogen"). There's also funny exchanges involving Arthur and a girl Terry met at the Job Centre - "Any more like you Miss and there'd be 4 million on the Old King Cole". This is also the episode with the famous "The world is your lobster" line from Arthur. Anyone else on the forum a fan of Rocky 8½? Soldier Atkins was played by the late great David Lodge RIP David died in late 2004, he used to frequent the same restaurant as me for many a lunchtime in Clerkenwell Green. Fine Actor, was also a boxing coach in the sweeney episode Chalk and Cheese.
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Post by newchris on Jan 22, 2008 13:01:26 GMT
Yes, I totally agree about the 80s feel. It's very difficult to put into words why it has an 80s feel but it certainly has. The job centre scene is absolutely amazing!! Those few minutes sum up Arthur's attitude to life so well!
I love it when Terry is looking at jobs and Arthur says this isn't for you, this is for workers! His expression is priceless! I also love the scene in the taxi where the driver says one minute we are going to the city, now you are going to the job centre! He says I don't expect you'll get a job and Arthur says I don't expect you'll get a tip!!
I know it's all too easy to be nostalgic but I grew up in the 80s and it just seemed to be a great optimistic era. And it was certainly a golden age of TV in my opinion! Talking of the 80s it will be interesting to see if Ashes to Ashes is any good as that's set in 1981. I never actually got into Life on Mars - I know everyone thinks it's brilliant but I only ever catched one episode so I didn't get into it and just wished I was watching the Sweeney instead!
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Post by Zimbo on Jan 23, 2008 22:30:47 GMT
A post on another topic has reminded me of one of my favourite Minder episodes, Rocky 8½. The dialogue and supporting characters were excellent in this one. For those who haven't see it for a while, the episode starts with Arthur trying to persuade Terry to appear on the bill of a pirate or unlicensed fight. This leads to a discussion about Terry's previous fights, and Terry says he could've been a contender. Arthur's reply to this is that Terry sounds like "him in On the Riverbank". Tel reckons he was hard done-by in his last big fight, but Arthur says he's lucky he wasn't nicked for overacting. Terry agrees to box and Arthur says he needs a trainer, and the latter nominates one Soldier Atkins, although Terry has to force the name out of him. Terry says "Old Soldier?! I can hear it now - 'Tommy Farr, he was a good boy, and Len Harvey, what a gent, what a toff...'". Arthur tells him not to knock the old 'uns, but when they meet up with Soldier, he says almost exactly what Terry said he would. Arthur then challenges Terry to quiz him on his boxing knowledge - "I could go on the telly anytime with Agnus Magnus.....the Icelandic-Scotchman with the electric chair". The episode also features the character Dirty Harry (expertly played by George Innes), who thinks he's called this because he looks like Clint Eastwood, despite looking as much like Clint as Arthur does. Arthur discovers the real reason for the nickname when he visits Harry's house, which is so untidy they can't find the cat (Arthur calls Harry's furniture "middle period Hilda Ogen"). There's also funny exchanges involving Arthur and a girl Terry met at the Job Centre - "Any more like you Miss and there'd be 4 million on the Old King Cole". This is also the episode with the famous "The world is your lobster" line from Arthur. Anyone else on the forum a fan of Rocky 8½? Soldier Atkins was played by the late great David Lodge RIP David died in late 2004, he used to frequent the same restaurant as me for many a lunchtime in Clerkenwell Green. Fine Actor, was also a boxing coach in the sweeney episode Chalk and Cheese. That was great 'In -joke' casting, knowing that he had previously done that role. He was a superb actor. Chalk and Cheese is one of my favourite Sweeney episodes.
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Post by jno on Feb 17, 2015 9:46:26 GMT
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Post by gustav on Aug 14, 2015 12:22:41 GMT
Just watched this episode - it is indeed excellent. Well written, well acted, top script.
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Post by barrythebook on Aug 20, 2015 20:41:22 GMT
A lovely,funny little scene is when Terry is going through his pre-fight medical and the Doctor takes his blood pressure. Arthur butts in and says "Ere! Can I have mine done?" Whilst rolling up his shirt sleeve he gives Terry a triumphant, bullish smile and says "...I bet mine's higher than yours!"
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Post by daz on Oct 31, 2015 10:03:19 GMT
Watched this last night and have to say I had never seen it beforem thought I had, but no, so a treat.
A great episode, some good comedy lines in here, especially when Arther spots Terry in the job centre, remember those?
Some brilliant Minder characters in here, Harry Lynch pulling a fast one on Arthur by selling him a Council Flat and Soldier Atkins, Terrys boxing coach, played by the same actor who played similar role in The Sweeney, brilliant.
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Post by VAT on Oct 31, 2015 14:41:00 GMT
Yes, top ep all the way Right to the end with Arthur trying to switch the TV on and disguising his attempt as trying to waft the smoke from his cigar away to his face right at the end when Terry says "What is this Dom Perignon anyway?" The Job Centre scene is top Minder...along with other iconic Minder scenes like on the train to Brighton etc
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Post by pr1 on May 1, 2016 18:10:31 GMT
I am very happy to see that the excellence of Series Three carried over to this year. A top knotch episode all the way.
The scene at the Job Centre followed by the scene in the backseat of the taxi is some of the best Minder I've seen yet.
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Post by daz on May 1, 2016 19:25:47 GMT
I'm liking your reviews PR1. Have you watched Minder in proper series order or have you used the scattergun approach I did? I went back last year and watched all the Terry years in correct order and am half way through the 2nd Ray Daley series. Top TV!
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Post by pr1 on May 1, 2016 21:46:45 GMT
I'm liking your reviews PR1. Have you watched Minder in proper series order or have you used the scattergun approach I did? I went back last year and watched all the Terry years in correct order and am half way through the 2nd Ray Daley series. Top TV! I'm watching them in order. I'm in US and only the first five years of the Terry era were released on DVD. I started watching the show in January when I bought the sets because they finally came down to a reasonable price. I went through the first two years rather quickly but since I don't have the entire series to watch I've slowed down to make it last longer. I love Minder! It's defnitely worth the long wait to finally see the show between when I first read about it in the ITV Book of Adventure and this year when I got the DVDs.
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Post by ltd on May 2, 2016 17:17:08 GMT
Anyone else on the forum a fan of Rocky 8½? I like it - other forum members have illustrated its various qualities on this thread. I think Ian McNeice's gore obsessed promoter is also worth a mention. Top actor who invariably brings a touch of class to whatever he's in: The newsreader in Rome, the amiable Bert Large in Doc Martin or his chilling performance as Gerhard Klopfer in Conspiracy.
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Post by pr1 on May 2, 2016 18:30:19 GMT
I forgot to ask about Ian McNeice's accent. What is it? My American ears can't place it.
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Post by barrythebook on May 2, 2016 20:35:22 GMT
I forgot to ask about Ian McNeice's accent. What is it? My American ears can't place it. That's a Welsh accent pr. jno may be able to be more precise as to which part of Wales.
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Post by pr1 on May 2, 2016 20:41:39 GMT
I forgot to ask about Ian McNeice's accent. What is it? My American ears can't place it. That's a Welsh accent pr. jno may be able to be more precise as to which part of Wales. Thank you. Cheers Mate!
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Post by jno on May 3, 2016 3:14:28 GMT
Now it's not often you'll hear me say something bad about a Minder episode, but despite the fact I like Ian McNeice in this and that he's a great actor, this is one of the worst attempts at any Welsh accent I've ever heard. Ian McNeice is from Basingstoke which is down on near Southampton on the south coast and for me his Welsh accent is borderline cringeworthy.
There are many different Welsh English accents but this one he uses seems to be a mishmash festival of cliché and for me he doesn't get anywhere near pulling it off.
The only authentic Welsh accents in Minder that come to mind right now are of course Taff (although as Meic has told us, he's North Walian immitating someone from the South), Dafydd (Sean Mathias) in 'Broken Arrow' and Big Dai (Anthony O'Donnell) in 'The Cruel Canal'.
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Post by syrupapplesnpears on Jun 19, 2016 17:42:51 GMT
This is my first post here, so please be nice. Just started the 4th series in the Terry Years box-set. Hadn't seen most of the preceding episodes in nearly 30 years and they're an untrammeled delight - if anything, it's even better than I remember in my mid-teens: one of those shows you sat down to watch knowing you were guaranteed to be entertained. Love the Dirty Harry/Arthur exchange at the flat: "I haven't seen the cat for a week". "He's probably gone down the welfare". Priceless - not surprised I swore off it when Dennis left.
PS Has Dennis had any boxing training? He looks convincing in the boxing sequences.
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Post by jno on Jun 19, 2016 18:12:47 GMT
PS Has Dennis had any boxing training? He looks convincing in the boxing sequences. Yep - all in his 'Reminder' book but here it is again (from Wikipedia): Boxing was a big part of Waterman's childhood. His father had been an amateur boxer and made all of his sons box. His older brother Ken first took Dennis boxing when he was three years old, and when he was ten Dennis joined Caius Boxing Club. Another older brother, Peter, was a welterweight boxing champion.
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Post by Terry on Jun 23, 2016 17:39:55 GMT
In Rocky Eight and a Half - watch Arthur as Terry steams into the first round. It looks like he stumbles. Thing is George Cole is such a good actor he could have been mimicking it. I have not noticed it before Theres a similar scene in The old school tie where Terry beats the baddies up in that scrap yard...in one scene Arthur stumbles and trembles just as you hear Terry throw a punch in the background.
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 26, 2016 19:27:17 GMT
PS Has Dennis had any boxing training? He looks convincing in the boxing sequences. Yep - all in his 'Reminder' book but here it is again (from Wikipedia): Boxing was a big part of Waterman 's childhood. His father had been an amateur boxer and made all of his sons box. His older brother Ken first took Dennis boxing when he was three years old, and when he was ten Dennis joined Caius Boxing Club. Another older brother, Peter, was a welterweight boxing champion.Peter Waterman also represented Great Britain at the Olympics - in the 1950s i think. An injury picked up in the ring saw him have to retire from the sport and sadly stayed with him for the rest of his life iirc.
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Post by gra966 on Dec 8, 2016 6:23:39 GMT
The 4th season & we have moved on 2 years - reflected in Arthur s comment about breakfast tv while in the job centre - 1983 being the year it started - We see Arthur s yellow Daimler for the first time , after he collects it from being serviced - shame they didn't cure the creaking drivers door !!! A good season starter with a very realistic boxing match - Unusual to see Rycott in a Volvo - in the majority of later season episodes we normally see him in a Cavalier or Montego - Arthur s conversation with the guys when they turn up to decorate the flat would most certainly be edited out of any tv showing today !!!
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Post by VAT on Dec 14, 2016 18:25:21 GMT
Yes, another good episode, and Terry looks at home in this one in particular...a very good DW ep I think....love the little hand gesture Arthur gives Terry in the Gym when ''OldSoldier'' his trainer,starts to go on about Len Harvey
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Post by daz on Dec 15, 2016 17:21:21 GMT
Yep - all in his 'Reminder' book but here it is again (from Wikipedia): Boxing was a big part of Waterman 's childhood. His father had been an amateur boxer and made all of his sons box. His older brother Ken first took Dennis boxing when he was three years old, and when he was ten Dennis joined Caius Boxing Club. Another older brother, Peter, was a welterweight boxing champion.Peter Waterman also represented Great Britain at the Olympics - in the 1950s i think. An injury picked up in the ring saw him have to retire from the sport and sadly stayed with him for the rest of his life iirc. I nealry choked on my tea when I read PW picked up an injury in the ring!!
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Post by barrythebook on Dec 15, 2016 21:47:10 GMT
I'll choose my words more carefully next time daz
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Post by Zimbo on Mar 6, 2017 12:08:08 GMT
January 1984 and ITV show the first proper Minder episode for nearly 2 years. (I'm sure a lot of repeats were shown during that time) It's a very good return, although I'm not a boxing fan. The dialogue, particularly Arthur's is sparkling throughout. We see a new pad for Terry and a tasty bird, in the form of Christine Kavanagh. As has been mentioned several times, great casting of David Lodge as Terry's trainer. The episode began ITV's run of afternoon repeats in the summer of 2000.
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 9, 2017 19:57:30 GMT
The first boxing bout we see at the unlicensed event is between Euston regular Dinny Powell and George Lane Cooper.
George Lane Cooper also appeared in the Sweeney episode 'Supersnout'. He was the undercover Serious Crime Squad officer posing as Yanos's bodyguard.
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Post by pr1 on Oct 9, 2017 2:04:17 GMT
Another great episode! The scene in the Job Centre and the backseat of the taxi are still gems. Arthur has so many great lines in this episode it's hard to keep track of them all. His last line at the end is laugh out loud funny.
When I first watched Minder I new it would hold up to repeated viewings. I am on my second time through and very happy to discover I was right. Some episodes, like this one are so full of great lines and moments it's like watching them for the first time.
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