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Post by harryshand on Jun 28, 2020 8:52:57 GMT
Great ending to series 3. The scrap on the bus is something else, very realistic. Onto series 4.
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Post by barrythebook on Jul 17, 2020 20:51:26 GMT
A piece of dialogue which has bugged me for years in this one.
When Terry finds Franks sister, she takes Umbridge and starts to kick and punch him. Terry subdues her, tells her that he's not there for trouble and then puts his hands in the air and says (what sounds like)
'bay nights!'
Do I hear it correctly, is this what Terry says and if so what does it mean?
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Post by McCann on Jul 17, 2020 22:14:07 GMT
It must be 'be nice!'
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Post by jjmolloy on Jul 17, 2020 22:32:41 GMT
Or 'behave'? But you're probably right.
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Post by jjmolloy on Jul 18, 2020 1:41:12 GMT
A piece of dialogue which has bugged me for years in this one. When Terry finds Franks sister, she takes Umbridge and starts to kick and punch him. Terry subdues her, tells her that he's not there for trouble and then puts his hands in the air and says (what sounds like) 'bay nights!' Do I hear it correctly, is this what Terry says and if so what does it mean? Just watched it on ITV4 with the subtitles on, the line is ''Look, fair rights, right?'' Sorted.
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Post by ontheslate on Jul 18, 2020 5:02:43 GMT
He probably says fay nights it was an old way of saying truce when kids it was normally said with crossed fingers holding up your hands,might not be the right spelling but have seen Del Boy saying it to Rodney as well
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Post by barrythebook on Jul 18, 2020 12:19:55 GMT
He probably says fay nights it was an old way of saying truce when kids it was normally said with crossed fingers holding up your hands,might not be the right spelling but have seen Del Boy saying it to Rodney as well That seems to be the phrase ots A quick search shows 'Fay', 'Fey', 'Fein' nights - meaning to request a truce. Thanks for that
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Post by barrythebook on Jul 18, 2020 12:22:14 GMT
A piece of dialogue which has bugged me for years in this one. When Terry finds Franks sister, she takes Umbridge and starts to kick and punch him. Terry subdues her, tells her that he's not there for trouble and then puts his hands in the air and says (what sounds like) 'bay nights!' Do I hear it correctly, is this what Terry says and if so what does it mean? Just watched it on ITV4 with the subtitles on, the line is ''Look, fair rights, right?'' Sorted. Don't trust those pesky subtitles jj, thanks for going to the trouble though
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Post by chopper on Jul 20, 2020 19:59:58 GMT
For some reason, an episode in have watched a lot less than many others. The ending feels a bit rushed. I like the way Rycott is almost sticking up for Daley, saying how it wasn’t his thing.
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Post by wayne2467 on Aug 14, 2020 11:08:50 GMT
Coincidentally I thought Frank and his sister looked like real life siblings
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Post by jjmolloy on Aug 14, 2020 14:05:43 GMT
For some reason, an episode in have watched a lot less than many others. The ending feels a bit rushed. I like the way Rycott is almost sticking up for Daley, saying how it wasn’t his thing. Chisholm wouldn't have that's for sure.
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Post by kelotoph on Aug 25, 2020 13:10:14 GMT
Just watched this episode and thoroughly enjoyed it - as has been said before, three really top episodes to round off the season.
Loved Arthur's protests at being arrested, including the classic malapropism "Magnus Carter". Thought that it was a bit quick for Terry to have been assaulted by Bridget to then immediately going out for a drink, as well as the willingness of the first nurse to give Bridget's address details to a total stranger (albeit one she fancied). I imagine the line "You won't be raped" is omitted from subsequent broadcasts.
Thought I recognised Russell Hunter (Ferret), not from Callan (I didn't watch that) but as the corrupt jailer in the wonderful film version of Up Pompeii.
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Post by joshmel on Oct 23, 2020 17:17:08 GMT
Brain cox is simply brilliant here as the hard nut Scotsman. He had that rugged image of to perfection! One of the most memorable scenes from the whole of minder is the fistycuffs with Terry on the bus. A scene which always comes into my mind when I’m near Paddington is franks sisters nurse accommodation at st Mary’s hospital when she is accompanied by Terry.
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Post by wayne2467 on Nov 29, 2020 22:30:21 GMT
Brian Cox certainly went on to have a great career
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Post by steve74 on Jul 22, 2021 9:09:44 GMT
Brilliant episode to end series 3. In finds Arthur in a spot of bother when he is taken to the police station and has to spend some time in the cells "I'm stir crazy".."Stir crazy? You've only been here five hours". Comparing himself to the Count of Monte Cristo. Being questioned by a German officer "It's Colditz in it". Terry is on the outside searching for Brian Cox's character Frank, trying to clear Arthur's name, leading to a fight on a bus which is brutal. Minder managed to bring in some brilliant actors, here we have Brian Cox and a great turn by Russel Hunter as 'the ferret'. Minder at it's best mixed comedy and drama perfectly and this episode is one of the best. 5 out of 5.
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Post by 615 on Mar 8, 2022 10:03:24 GMT
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the mechanic stripping the car. That line about 'we've got another problem- tell your governor we're into double time' is a belter IMHO
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Post by barrythebook on Mar 9, 2022 15:15:02 GMT
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the mechanic stripping the car. That line about 'we've got another problem- tell your governor we're into double time' is a belter IMHO It would have been good to know the outcome of the BMW too. Did Arthur get it back after paying Frank for it etc.
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Post by 615 on Mar 9, 2022 20:12:41 GMT
Wouldn't it have been confiscated? (if they could get it back together again) After all wasn't the whole point is that it was a ringer, which needed the plates from the crashed write off that Arthur bought as scrap?
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Post by jjmolloy on Mar 9, 2022 22:02:22 GMT
Wouldn't it have been confiscated? (if they could get it back together again) After all wasn't the whole point is that it was a ringer, which needed the plates from the crashed write off that Arthur bought as scrap? In theory yes, but there were a lot of ringers about back in the day. Wouldn't put it past Plod not to knock it out the back door!
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Post by 615 on Mar 10, 2022 7:38:57 GMT
Good point well made. Especially as Rycott was on the case. Chisholm no, Rycott yes, Jones and Mellish highly likely.
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Post by fordcapri on Aug 15, 2022 17:30:42 GMT
I watched this last night (recorded off ITV4) and I really enjoyed it. I remember it from 1982, but don't think I'd seen it since. This is perfect Minder. Great dialogue, a situation that isn't too far fetched, brilliant rapport between Dennis and George and some great guest characters. It's a shame TV isn't like this anymore... I might watch more of it. 10/10.
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Post by ltd on Aug 16, 2022 7:41:51 GMT
Good point well made. Especially as Rycott was on the case. Chisholm no, Rycott yes, Jones and Mellish highly likely. I don't think Jones and Mellish would be involved in anything that dodgy. Jones was a realist and would compromise with local villians e.g. helping to keep The Winchester open in Days of Fines and Closures, but takes a strong line on the corrupt antics of his fellow masons in The Wrong Goodbye. Mellish always seemed very strait laced, despite having Rycott as a guvnor.
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Post by 615 on Aug 16, 2022 19:42:09 GMT
It's a good point. I was basing my view on the fact that Jones was quite likely to spend time getting merry in the Winchester, and could possibly be a party to joining Arthur's quick profit schemes. Although not after he'd been promoted (thereby reinforcing Michael Povey's view that the writers spoiled his character by having it made up to DS) I think you're right on reflection about Mellish. I was probably doing him an injustice.
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Post by euston1971 on Aug 22, 2022 11:14:50 GMT
'In' could be the best ever episode. If you were showing somebody 'Minder' for the very first time, this would be as good as any place start - though fairly un PC by modern standards with ITV 4 having to get their customary scissors out.
One example is where Terry has to push Frank's sister to the floor, though she holds herself up very well. 'Nobody is going to rape you are they!' 'Only if I want them to' she replies. She was very 'stalky' - another phrase that has long since disappeared.
One thing I always love about Leon's scripts is how he combines local dialogue against type. The German Inspector doesn't understand what Rycott means with the word 'Ricket'. It was a word my Dad used a lot ' - 'You made a right ticket there' - but nobody at my school had a clue what I was talking about!
The violence tended to be toned down from here on, which is why the fight on the bus is one to savour!
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Post by spacecadet on Aug 22, 2022 13:18:29 GMT
A big tell tale sign of the date of filming was The Royal Wedding poster on the wall of Arthur s office , so July 1981 I watched this episode last week and also noticed a calendar in Arthur's car lot office which looked like July 81 and also in the solicitor's office there was also a calendar which looked like August 81. Which may point to it being filmed late July/ early August 81 - probably shown last to give the show a strong episode to finish on.
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Post by geoffc on Oct 9, 2023 11:38:10 GMT
I was intrigued by the Arthur's reference to the 'Fulham Connection' - was this a play on the 'French Connection' - a 1971 film about Marseille drug dealing, which fits in with the missing drugs story line. It led nicely on to a 'don`t mention the war` moment with the German detective . 'Fulham Today, Belgium Tomorrow' Brilliant . That and claiming 'Magnus Carter' during his arrest.
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Post by c79 on Oct 31, 2023 17:31:07 GMT
Just an observation - in 'Back In Good Old England' Rycott is a Detective Constable yet a week later in 'In' he is addressed as Detective Sergeant. You'd think he'd have milked this a bit! Also, being picky again, sorry, but I used to get the 109 bus to school. It used to go from Westminster, and later Blackfriars, to Purley and back - (I'd hop on at West Croydon). It never passed through W2 or White City.
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Post by jjmolloy on Oct 31, 2023 23:57:36 GMT
Just an observation - in 'Back In Good Old England' Rycott is a Detective Constable yet a week later in 'In' he is addressed as Detective Sergeant. You'd think he'd have milked this a bit! Also, being picky again, sorry, but I used to get the 109 bus to school. It used to go from Westminster, and later Blackfriars, to Purley and back - (I'd hop on at West Croydon). It never passed through W2 or White City. Ah..the magic of television...
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Post by hollandpark on Jan 13, 2024 12:50:14 GMT
Love this episode but one thing I don't get is why Terry was charged 9.24 in the pub with Brian Cox's sister . they only bought 2 drinks ? Am I missing something ?
I love the small details in this one, they pour out some Johnnie Walker Black in polystyrene cups , Rycott takes a sip and says " I usually take mines with water" The German cop says " I prefer mines with soda water , like the English"
And yet both of them are drinking it straight with no mixer lol
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Post by jjmolloy on Jan 13, 2024 13:22:07 GMT
Love this episode but one thing I don't get is why Terry was charged 9.24 in the pub with Brian Cox's sister . they only bought 2 drinks ? Am I missing something ? I love the small details in this one, they pour out some Johnnie Walker Black in polystyrene cups , Rycott takes a sip and says " I usually take mines with water" The German cop says " I prefer mines with soda water , like the English" And yet both of them are drinking it straight with no mixer lol Back then £9.24 would have bought drinks and a meal and a cab home!
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