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Post by jno on Feb 17, 2015 8:42:32 GMT
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Post by garytomo on Apr 2, 2015 15:24:30 GMT
Just watched this episode. It absolutely oozes quality. The chemistry between Terry and Arthur, the writing, the acting, Rycott excellent, excellent one liners and the fight scene. We really don't have nothing like this anymore. I thoroughly enjoyed it and it finished too soon. Minder was simply the best, and we are lucky to have had it.
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Post by jno on Jun 4, 2015 4:53:27 GMT
I have a few words from Paul Moriarty who played journalist Kevin in this one - he said both he and Derek Thompson (Harry) got the job as a result of the director James Gatward who had previously directed an episode of The Gentle Touch called 'Loyalties' and suggested them for the parts. Apparently when he turned up his costume had bullet holes in it from an earlier episode and he had to point out that this was a bit much for a journalist. He also remembers the 'Fleet Street' pub where he sees Terry was actually in Shepherds Bush somewhere.  |
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 4, 2015 20:46:07 GMT
Paul Moriarty wasn't given his clothes from the Sweeney episode he appeared in was he?
There were plenty of bullets fying around in that one.
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Post by jno on Jun 4, 2015 20:51:49 GMT
Paul Moriarty wasn't given his clothes from the Sweeney episode he appeared in was he? There were plenty of bullets fying around in that one. Initially I thought the same but it could be from any previous production as he distinctly mentioned this was not ok for a journalist to wear so he must be remembering Minder. |
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Post by daz on Oct 19, 2015 21:11:21 GMT
Watched this tonight and I can only remember watching the last 5 minutes of this previously.
What an episode, a real gritty storyline, with a touch of humour thrown in. Really, really enjoyed this and a pity it only lasted under an hour.
So many faces in it and it is always weird seeing Derek Thompson in anything other than Casualty, but he is a very good actor. Paul Copley, who played George Palmer, was he trying to put on a London accent? I think I sound more London than he did.
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Post by barrythebook on Oct 20, 2015 20:48:06 GMT
It's a pity Harry (Thompson) wasn't written in to the episode as a bit of a hardnut.
He could have been more convincing when he called at Terrys flat looking for George, setting the scene for some real tension and in the final scrapyard scenes he could have stepped in to help Terry.
I think he could have pulled this role off after seeing him in 'Long Good Friday' and 'Wild Geese 2'.
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Post by jno on Oct 21, 2015 3:26:03 GMT
I really like this one and even though I love Minder the scrapyard punchup always comes across as slightly implausible i.e. how Rycott, Arthur & Harry are able to assist in the overcoming of the scrapyard team.
Terry clearly wasn't up to it earlier on but suddenly when Rycott shows up the focus switches to Terry settling a score. However, I still think Rycott & Co are outnumbered in terms of actual muscle.
What would have been far more plausible here is for Rycott to call up reinforcements, for Rycott to have received a semi-kicking only for the boys in blue to step in and outnumber the bad guys.
It's a great episode but this last part always leaves me doubtful of how this could really work - Arthur is pretty useless fisticuffs-wise, Harry is established as a two-faced crook and we only really have Rycott, his pal and an injured Terry left. Then consider who's on the opposing side. I just don't think they would've 'come quietly' in the car based on the amount of muscle on offer.
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Post by daz on Oct 21, 2015 8:53:28 GMT
i think jno, with the episode being set in the early 80s, villains on the whole still had a tiny respect for the Police, so if they turned up, the first instinct was to escape, which they tried, but once the pack was split up it was easier to round them up/pick them off.
The fact Rycott went in without back up so he could have the glory himself explains it nicely for me anyway.
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Post by pr1 on Feb 28, 2016 3:50:53 GMT
Only a few minutes into this episode and I can tell I'm in for a treat!  I wasn't wrong or disappointed. This was more dramatic than usual but still a fine, entertains episode. Good showcase for Dennis Waterman. I enjoyed Arthur's lack of participation in the big fight at the end. |
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Post by Zimbo on Nov 24, 2016 23:52:03 GMT
This is a very good, grittier episode. Always a treat to see Rycott. Arthur was genuinely sorrowful when Dave told him about Terry helping him. Another brief sighting of Debbie's bum when she gets out of bed. Nick Stringer and Ziggy/Trevor Byfield were very menacing in their roles. I like Paul Copley as an actor, but the professional Yorkshireman struggled with the cockney accent and I thought he mumbled a bit but overall, this is a very strong story.
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Post by glazbury on Nov 28, 2016 17:33:53 GMT
I do like the ending to this episode when Terry arrives outside the Winchester to find a drunk Arthur! Terry: "How long you been in there?" Arthur: "About half an hour!" Great acting from GC. |
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Post by VAT on Nov 28, 2016 20:27:18 GMT
I really like this one and even though I love Minder the scrapyard punchup always comes across as slightly implausible i.e. how Rycott, Arthur & Harry are able to assist in the overcoming of the scrapyard team. Terry clearly wasn't up to it earlier on but suddenly when Rycott shows up the focus switches to Terry settling a score. However, I still think Rycott & Co are outnumbered in terms of actual muscle. What would have been far more plausible here is for Rycott to call up reinforcements, for Rycott to have received a semi-kicking only for the boys in blue to step in and outnumber the bad guys. It's a great episode but this last part always leaves me doubtful of how this could really work - Arthur is pretty useless fisticuffs-wise, Harry is established as a two-faced crook and we only really have Rycott, his pal and an injured Terry left. Then consider who's on the opposing side. I just don't think they would've 'come quietly' in the car based on the amount of muscle on offer. Yes, they do seem a bit outnumbered when they raid the scrap yard...especially relying on Arthur as a wingman 
But is this the ep where Rycott says something like "I'm not having the woodentops grabbing all the glory on this"' ?
If so, may explain why he went in a bit light...
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Post by chopper on May 17, 2017 11:52:49 GMT
I think this is worth a full 5/5. Some great moments & obviously a great storyline. Lots going on & great locations. Loved the scrapyard scene at the end.
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Post by dscarter1975 on May 17, 2017 18:16:05 GMT
I remember catching the end of this on The Paramount Comedy Channel when Terry lands a few on Nick Stringer's bad guy.
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Post by billymedhurst on May 17, 2017 18:45:59 GMT
This has always been my favourite ep. On original TX, this ep. really stood out. Must watch again (so much to watch, so little time) ISTR Terry gets a right good going over.
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Post by barrythebook on May 17, 2017 19:30:07 GMT
ISTR Terry gets a right good going over. He meets his match in the scrapyard but it takes three of them! It aint over til the fat lady sings though. Terry's down but not out  . |
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Post by barrythebook on May 17, 2017 19:46:14 GMT
Good to see Rycott getting in the mix too. He could handle himself |
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Post by gra966 on May 18, 2017 5:01:54 GMT
Watched this one again , having not seen it for ages & have to agree with most of the above comments This was Minder at its best , a good story , plenty of humour & one liners , with a brilliant chase & fight scene at the end Another convincing villainous performance from Nick Stringer , almost identical to his Kearney character in The Sweeney , One of Your Own Plenty of cars to spot in the scrapyard , shame about that nice white , series 1 Jag XJ6 though Definitely a 5/5 episode |
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Post by chopper on May 18, 2017 8:08:48 GMT
Yes, plenty of cars to spot at the yard! Some of them - not that old really!!
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Post by pr1 on Aug 6, 2017 18:03:40 GMT
On second viewing this is still a good change of pace episode with a more dramatic tone than usual. Fine showcase for Dennis and it provides some background on Terry. I like the scene with Rycott and Arthur in the lock up with Rycott mentioning it was good the golf clubs weren't damaged when they fell off the back of the truck.
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Post by westldner on Jan 2, 2018 16:12:46 GMT
I liked the episode, very adventurous and mysterious. A bit predictable half way but the episode did give a good show towards the end.
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Post by gustav on Jan 18, 2018 10:50:43 GMT
Just watched this all the way through for the first time and it is a very good episode. A lot to like and enjoy. I agree with jno that Rycott enlisting Arthur and Harry to assist at the end is a bit implausible and unlikely to succeed, whatever reason Rycott gives. Also Paul Copley doesn't quite get the accent as is also noted above. But still a good episode.
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 5, 2018 10:43:01 GMT
I like George Cole's closing lines "good few quids worth of stock in here" classic.
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Post by johnnybear on Oct 3, 2018 15:04:53 GMT
The stunt guy pretending to be Nick Stringer with the fake bald head was hilarious! Nick Stringer was a part of The Bill in the nineties playing collator Ron Smollett for a while. Strangely enough when he left the office and returned to the beat he sort of just disappeared?
JB
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Post by newishminderfan on Dec 20, 2018 12:08:21 GMT
When I first saw Nick Stringer in this episode, I was thinking, "Is that Jumbo Mills"? |
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Post by daz on Aug 13, 2019 19:16:52 GMT
Watched tonight, such a great episode, has everything you want in an episode of Minder, classic. I love the fight scene at the end in the scrapyard.
Sherrie Hewson came across as a decent actress in this, she turned to merde after her spell in Corrie.
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Post by dcjones1 on Aug 26, 2019 21:40:39 GMT
When I first saw Nick Stringer in this episode, I was thinking, "Is that Jumbo Mills"? Sure was. He actually appeared in OFAH twice, he played a Australian buying a car from the Trotters in the second ever episode. |
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Post by dcjones1 on Aug 26, 2019 21:50:47 GMT
This episode was I would imagine closer to Leon Griffiths vision of Minder. Arthur and Terry are well out their depth, with Dave and Debbie taking some punishment from the two heavies. I think modern audiences would feel a bit uncomfortable with Debbie getting beaten up. Terry gets revenge for her at the end, giving the bald villain a right pasting. Probably did it for Dave as well and to a lesser extent Arthur, who was threatened and understandably blabbed about George’s whereabouts.
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Post by Twin2 on Oct 2, 2019 12:12:51 GMT
When I first saw Nick Stringer in this episode, I was thinking, "Is that Jumbo Mills"? That was exactly my thought too  and as the other poster said he also played the chap that bought the car in Go West Young Man |
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and as the other poster said he also played the chap that bought the car in Go West Young Man