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Post by Arch Stanton on Oct 21, 2017 12:14:30 GMT
This week I thought I would cheer you all up with some banter and friendly discussion around killer diseases. Generally infecting and killing those who are no stranger to poverty, out of opportunity, these viruses are all born killers and show no favouritism and would happily kill you and yours in a heart beat. However which do you find the scariest, which do you find the most repulsive, which would you not wish on your worst enemy, even if it was the mother-in-law.
Somehow, you'll be glad to know, I managed to restrain myself from posting images of sufferers of the different viruses up on here, on the grounds that one or two forum users might find images of people dying from different viral hemorrhagic fevers in poor taste. So although pictures may have been helpful for points of reference when it comes to making your informed decisions, you will have to browse the web yourself.
As suggested by: Arch Stanton.
The Bubonic Plague - Killed approximately 1/3 of all European population.
Malaria - Kills 2800 children a day.
Cholera - up to 130,000 deaths a year.
Dengue Dengue Fever - Kills between 10,000-20,000 a year, nastily!
Polio - Almost eradicated but adult kill rate is between 15-30%
Rabies - Prognosis: Nearly always death if untreated early.
The Ebola Virus: Zaire Strain - has a 90% kill rate and incredibly messy. Some strains as high as 100% kill rate.
AIDS - 1 million deaths in 2016.
Hantavirus - No vaccine. Worldwide exposure including Europe and North America. Kills 36% of all sufferers.
Granulomatous amoebic encephalitis - Causes brain necrosis. No vaccine. Nearly always fatal.
Yellow Fever - 2013 130,000 severe infections 45,000 deaths.
Marburg - Highly infectious. Very Nasty. The Ugandan outbreak of 2004 had a 90% kill ratio. With Biosafety level 4 equivalent containment.
Contract up to two viruses.
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Post by ace5150 on Oct 21, 2017 19:53:34 GMT
AIDS is the top of mine. Stopped me in my tracks when I was younger. And did I put it about! All those scary ads to hammer the point home. Talk about scare-mongering! 2nd on my list is Rabies. Going to HK, I had numerous jabs, my brother had a nasty reaction to Yellow Fever, but I admit I cried with my anti rabies jab. That needle was like a knitting needle! Smallpox was a doddle, a few drops on a sugarcube and swallowed.
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Post by ltd on Oct 21, 2017 21:46:11 GMT
Per Ace's post AIDS and Rabies were pretty scary back in the old days. Modern times, it has to be Ebola - what a horrible way to die.
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Post by mybodyguard on Oct 21, 2017 22:59:10 GMT
No "other" selection? BSE is just nasty.
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Post by jno on Oct 22, 2017 9:12:49 GMT
Arch Stanton hereby presented with the award for The Most Uplifting Thread of 2017! Meanwhile, my vote is cast.
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Post by Arch Stanton on Oct 22, 2017 10:00:14 GMT
No "other" selection? BSE is just nasty. I considered BSE... Then decided it wasn't going in this particular Death Match. It may appear in another, soon. No 'other' box listed on purpose for this DM. So just get on with it and 'contract' two of the viruses stated.
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Post by Arch Stanton on Oct 22, 2017 10:01:23 GMT
The UK's longest survivor of the HIV virus.
He's not some Scottish bloke is he?
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Post by Arch Stanton on Oct 22, 2017 10:11:29 GMT
Arch Stanton hereby presented with the award for The Most Uplifting Thread of 2017! Meanwhile, my vote is cast. Just keeping it real chief.. In the build up to the Halloween Death Match! You should've seen the images I did researching it..
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Post by Arch Stanton on Oct 22, 2017 10:20:10 GMT
Per Ace's post AIDS and Rabies were pretty scary back in the old days. Modern times, it has to be Ebola - what a horrible way to die. Ebola is flippin nasty man, like Marburg and Dengue. You start hemorrhaging from every orifice as your organs turn to mush and liquefy. It's incredibly infectious and if caught you have only a matter of days. It makes no sense why a virus would do that to it's host. I suspect it's potentially man-made.
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Post by Arch Stanton on Oct 22, 2017 12:51:59 GMT
Skinny little Scots bloke with a shaved head?
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Post by fordcapri on Oct 22, 2017 14:35:37 GMT
I've had 'em all. Bubonic plague was the worst. 'Old Blackie' we called it. Mind you, that was a long time ago now and needed a couple of visits to the apothecary before I was feeling myself again. I sold the flea circus after that and stopped breeding rats. But looking on the bright side, the next door neighbours never came back from their 'holiday of a lifetime' in Kyrgyzstan - and for that I was thankful.
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Post by barrythebook on Oct 22, 2017 17:54:57 GMT
Skinny little Scots bloke with a shaved head? I thought i'd heard/read somewhere that HIV is manageable now through medication and is no longer the death sentence it once was.
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Post by barrythebook on Oct 22, 2017 18:00:24 GMT
Per Ace's post AIDS and Rabies were pretty scary back in the old days. I can remember TV adverts in the late 70s highlighting the dangers of Rabies. Dogs frothing at the mouth etc iirc. Used to scare the stuffing out of me as a kid I can tell you. I think it was aimed mainly at people who were trying to bring dogs into this country from abroad without going through the correct quarantine procedures as well as a warning to tourists visiting other countries.
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Post by barrythebook on Oct 22, 2017 19:07:21 GMT
But Arch's op said that 1000 people died of AIDS in 2016. Can medicine not prevent HIV developing into AIDS virus then?
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Post by ltd on Oct 22, 2017 21:48:17 GMT
But Arch's op said that 1000 people died of AIDS in 2016. Can medicine not prevent HIV developing into AIDS virus then? I'd hazard a guess that Arch's statistics encompass parts of Africa where health care systems aren't up to much and anti HIV drugs aren't readily available. No denying AIDS has cut a pretty bloody swathe through the third world and will probably continue to do so.
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Post by Arch Stanton on Oct 23, 2017 3:44:37 GMT
But Arch's op said that 1000 people died of AIDS in 2016. Can medicine not prevent HIV developing into AIDS virus then? 1 million Baz, not 1000. If you can afford the medicine, many are avoidable.
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Post by Arch Stanton on Oct 23, 2017 3:50:33 GMT
Per Ace's post AIDS and Rabies were pretty scary back in the old days. I can remember TV adverts in the late 70s highlighting the dangers of Rabies. Dogs frothing at the mouth etc iirc. Used to scare the stuffing out of me as a kid I can tell you. I think it was aimed mainly at people who were trying to bring dogs into this country from abroad without going through the correct quarantine procedures as well as a warning to tourists visiting other countries. Yeah, Tv like The Mad Death didn't help. I saw that as a kid. Very scary.
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Post by logie on Jul 2, 2020 10:22:12 GMT
Are we going to re-start this one?
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Post by Arch Stanton on Jul 2, 2020 12:20:32 GMT
Are we going to re-start this one? No Logie. Got to pick between the ones on here. Besides if you were thinking Covid19, it isn’t even in the same league as these. It’s kill rate is feeble. Christ can you imagine if there’d been a global pandemic of Ebola or Marburg. Some of those have 80-90% kill rates. Bear in mind that Covid hasn’t even officially killed 0.1% of the U.K. population yet.
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Post by harryshand on Jul 2, 2020 14:13:31 GMT
Malaria probably the biggest killer but can be treated so not that scary. Ebola, on the other hand is the stuff of nightmares and horror films. Not sure if it's true but I read once that some poor sufferers last rites is to explode their contaminated blood via every orifice.
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Post by Arch Stanton on Jul 2, 2020 15:55:32 GMT
Malaria probably the biggest killer but can be treated so not that scary. Ebola, on the other hand is the stuff of nightmares and horror films. Not sure if it's true but I read once that some poor sufferers last rites is to explode their contaminated blood via every orifice. Yes Viral Hemorrhagic Fevers (VHFs) like Marburg, Ebola and Dengue Dengue cause your organs to haemorrhage. Certain organs break down and start to liquify while you are alive, and as a result you tend to bleed heavily from all orifices, including eyes, anus and genitals, before dying. Not pleasant. We should probably thank our lucky stars that there wasn’t a global pandemic with one of these and we only got a poncey coronavirus. With the way we are inadequately prepped to deal with these things, it would be EXTREMELY bad if a VHF reared it’s ugly head in a densely populated area. It is a combination of factors that this has not happened yet, but one of those factors is pure luck. If we get bad luck, we’d be screwed. To put things into Covid19 context, according to the World of Meters we’ve had 10,861,070 cases and 520,177 fatalities, and we’ve all been wigging out. Now imagine the death rate is 20x as bad if we’d had the same level of cases and 9million fatalities. Admittedly the Covid19 stats are bullshít coz we don’t know how accurate they are but still.
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