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Post by jjmolloy on Jul 31, 2020 16:01:34 GMT
I have this on DVD and really like it - in fact I even went to see it in the cinema. I had a lot of time for the late Niki Lauda, he was very clever, very direct, didn't care what people thought about him and was usually right. I also liked James Hunt's commentaries - I grew up watching Murray Walker and him on the BBC and they were both excellent - Murray's enthusiasm combined with James' insight and straight-talking was perfect. I still think of slow drivers as "mobile chicanes" thanks to James who wasn't averse to saying that certain drivers and cars had no place on a Formula One grid. I was too young to remember the 1976 championship but it is widely acknowledged as the season that changed the way the sport was covered - before that it had almost no TV and just got a few column inches on the back pages. James Hunt and Niki Lauda changed that, each in their own way. It co-incided with Barry Sheene winning the motorcycle world championship and Hunt and Sheene became very high-profile playboy champions of their respective sports. The film is mostly accurate - see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_(2013_film)#Historical_accuracy - one part that's not referenced here or the film but is extensively in Hunt's biography and in the Hunt vs Lauda racing rivals documentary (which is also very good) is James Hunt's retrospective exclusion from the British Grand Prix and the part Niki Lauda played in ensuring that happened, which almost cost Hunt the championship or spurred him on to get the results he needed, depending on your point of view. The worst thing for me about the racing shots is that most of the circuits are 'played' by Cadwell Park in Lincolnshire, and it's pretty obvious if you know the track. Plus it looks nothing like the scenery you would get at European or American circuits. But that's a pretty minor moan in the grand scheme. Part of the golden age of F1, I just about remember 76, though for it's long hot summer here in Ireland and the UK more so than JH, I took a very big intrest in F1 from 82 or so, Derek Daly from Ireland was Keke Rosberg's No.2 at Williams. Had some good results. I was crazy about F1 up until about 2000 or so. After that it just became too clinical and robotic for me anyway. If it's on TV now I just turn over if I'm being honest. The golden days are gone forever. P.S I saw Ayrton Senna or Senna Da Silva as he was then race at Mondello Park, Ireland in about 82 or so. Formula 2000 or Atlantic or something like that. The race announcer said this guy was destined for great things.
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Post by coyote on Jul 31, 2020 16:55:51 GMT
I have this on DVD and really like it - in fact I even went to see it in the cinema. I had a lot of time for the late Niki Lauda, he was very clever, very direct, didn't care what people thought about him and was usually right. I also liked James Hunt's commentaries - I grew up watching Murray Walker and him on the BBC and they were both excellent - Murray's enthusiasm combined with James' insight and straight-talking was perfect. I still think of slow drivers as "mobile chicanes" thanks to James who wasn't averse to saying that certain drivers and cars had no place on a Formula One grid. I was too young to remember the 1976 championship but it is widely acknowledged as the season that changed the way the sport was covered - before that it had almost no TV and just got a few column inches on the back pages. James Hunt and Niki Lauda changed that, each in their own way. It co-incided with Barry Sheene winning the motorcycle world championship and Hunt and Sheene became very high-profile playboy champions of their respective sports. The film is mostly accurate - see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rush_(2013_film)#Historical_accuracy - one part that's not referenced here or the film but is extensively in Hunt's biography and in the Hunt vs Lauda racing rivals documentary (which is also very good) is James Hunt's retrospective exclusion from the British Grand Prix and the part Niki Lauda played in ensuring that happened, which almost cost Hunt the championship or spurred him on to get the results he needed, depending on your point of view. The worst thing for me about the racing shots is that most of the circuits are 'played' by Cadwell Park in Lincolnshire, and it's pretty obvious if you know the track. Plus it looks nothing like the scenery you would get at European or American circuits. But that's a pretty minor moan in the grand scheme. I was crazy about F1 up until about 2000 or so. After that it just became too clinical and robotic for me anyway. If it's on TV now I just turn over if I'm being honest. The golden days are gone forever. My era was very much Nigel Mansell at Williams in the mid-80s, then Mansell-Prost-Senna then onto Damon Hill after Senna's death. But even I went off it when Schumacher was winning everything in the early 2000s and Ferrari wouldn't even let his team-mate beat him. Can't stand him or them, and will never forgive him for cheating Damon Hill out of the championship in 1994. IMO it got better when Alonso started beating Schumacher, then Hamilton started beating Alonso with its consequent toy-chucking and I've enjoyed it ever since. I know it's all become rather clinical and more about data and the cars than the drivers, but still you look at Lewis Hamilton and on his day he is absolutely incredible, probably the best there's ever been - although of course it's impossible to compare eras. I know LH isn't everyone's cup of tea, and there are times when he isn't mine, but for the most part I think he's an excellent role-model and I hope he goes on to eclipse all Schumacher's so-called records.
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Post by Arch Stanton on Aug 2, 2020 11:32:59 GMT
I know LH isn't everyone's cup of tea, and there are times when he isn't mine, but for the most part I think he's an excellent role-model and I hope he goes on to eclipse all Schumacher's so-called records. Sorry Lecoyote, I couldn’t disagree more. I think the bloke is an awful role model and an utter bell end. He’s as thick as mince, talks utter shyte and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. He is about as endearing and likeable as genital warts. Correct me if I’m wrong because I try to avoid any news about the little entitled pill•ck, but he’s the sort of fellow that dumps his long term sweet heart because he gets famous and she isn’t good enough for him anymore, whilst sitting there lecturing people on things like climate change and white privilege, even though he’s a multi millionaire rich kid with a carbon foot print bigger than China. Since when did selfishness, bigotry, lies, stupidity, hypocrisy, a sense of entitlement and utter arrogance make you a good role model for kids? .... Oh but wait, he can drive a fast car. Personally I’d like to see his head cut off with a hack saw and kicked down the track whilst his organs are harvested from his still twitching corpse and given to poorly people in third world countries. I knew a girl called “S****a”, who is Spanish. She had a boyfriend who had rich parents and he lived in Spain, where he met her. Now “S” was a good laugh and really pretty but her boyfriend was a pig ignorant tossér. Who I ended up sat next to once at a works Christmas do.. So I’m trying to involve this bloke but he’s got contempt written all over his face and he is making zero effort to be social. Now “S” is sat there embarrassed because her boyfriend’s an utter pr!ck, so in an attempt to involve him with us sat at the table she mentions that her boyfriend used to know Lewis Hamilton and used to race at amateur level with him when they were teenagers. So I says “Oh yeah, what’s he like then?” And the boyfriend says “he was a good driver but was spoilt rotten and was a complete arrogant w***er.” To which I replied something like “Yeah I know the sort.” Before moving off to mingle. Of course Lewis will tell you he was born a poor black child, who’s been oppressed by ‘evil bad white man‘ all his life, but in reality nothing could be farther from the truth, as he’s actually a little rich kid that was spoilt rotten by the industry from an early age. At least he was according to that @rse I met. Anyway, yeah, so I don’t like him Lecoyote.
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Post by jjmolloy on Aug 2, 2020 16:17:07 GMT
I know LH isn't everyone's cup of tea, and there are times when he isn't mine, but for the most part I think he's an excellent role-model and I hope he goes on to eclipse all Schumacher's so-called records. Sorry Lecoyote, I couldn’t disagree more. I think the bloke is an awful role model and an utter bell end. He’s as thick as mince, talks utter shyte and has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. He is about as endearing and likeable as genital warts. Correct me if I’m wrong because I try to avoid any news about the little entitled pill•ck, but he’s the sort of fellow that dumps his long term sweet heart because he gets famous and she isn’t good enough for him anymore, whilst sitting there lecturing people on things like climate change and white privilege, even though he’s a multi millionaire rich kid with a carbon foot print bigger than China. Since when did selfishness, bigotry, lies, stupidity, hypocrisy, a sense of entitlement and utter arrogance make you a good role model for kids? .... Oh but wait, he can drive a fast car. Personally I’d like to see his head cut off with a hack saw and kicked down the track whilst his organs are harvested from his still twitching corpse and given to poorly people in third world countries. I knew a girl called “S****a”, who is Spanish. She had a boyfriend who had rich parents and he lived in Spain, where he met her. Now “S” was a good laugh and really pretty but her boyfriend was a pig ignorant tossér. Who I ended up sat next to once at a works Christmas do.. So I’m trying to involve this bloke but he’s got contempt written all over his face and he is making zero effort to be social. Now “S” is sat there embarrassed because her boyfriend’s an utter pr!ck, so in an attempt to involve him with us sat at the table she mentions that her boyfriend used to know Lewis Hamilton and used to race at amateur level with him when they were teenagers. So I says “Oh yeah, what’s he like then?” And the boyfriend says “he was a good driver but was spoilt rotten and was a complete arrogant w***er.” To which I replied something like “Yeah I know the sort.” Before moving off to mingle. Of course Lewis will tell you he was born a poor black child, who’s been oppressed by ‘evil bad white man‘ all his life, but in reality nothing could be farther from the truth, as he’s actually a little rich kid that was spoilt rotten by the industry from an early age. At least he was according to that @rse I met. Anyway, yeah, so I don’t like him Lecoyote. Hamilton's opinions on Arch weren't available at time of going to press!
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Post by coyote on Aug 4, 2020 14:25:00 GMT
I'm a bit confused as to whether Arch likes him or not, it's not clear from the above As I said he's not everyone's cup of tea. But his story is pretty much the only genuine "working class kid done good" in motorsport in recent years. He's from a mixed-race broken home in Stevenage, and growing up in the 90s and early 2000s his divorced black dad took him karting at weekends while his white mum was at home looking after his disabled younger brother. Turns out little Lewis was rather good at karting, so his dad worked 3 jobs and took him and his kart to events every weekend he could afford it. Even then, karting was expensive and the rich kids had new sets of tyres, better engines, professional mechanics and what would basically amount to team support in an attempt by their parents to propel them up the racing ladder. Lewis generally had worse equipment, just his dad for company and beat them anyway on pure ability and (his dad's) dedication to it. He also suffered abuse from the other karting kids, not just for being the poor kid but for being the only black kid. Kids - especially spoilt rich ones - are not nice. It would not have been a nice environment for that little boy to be in, especially when he was consistently beating Little Lord Ponsonby-Smythe whose dad rocks up to watch in his Bentley. When LH was about 9 or 10 he was already winning kart championships. By 13 he had been successful enough to be signed up to the McLaren young driver programme - basically an academy system where talented kids are sponsored through the motorsport ladder by a major team. Most fall by the wayside for whatever reason - lack of talent, dedication, wrong attitude, whatever. But Lewis won in every car they put him in, so much so that he was promoted to the Formula One team in 2006. It's quite quite possible that when he was in the McLaren programme and in the lower formulae that he did come across as spoilt and probably was arrogant. In my experience of them, all racing kids are spoilt, arrogant little w*nkers to a greater or lesser extent, and even the ones that weren't rich enough or good enough to make it at the top level and ended up racing in club events against people like me still had the attitude. FWIW I think LH has got better as he's got older but yes he's quite contradictory at times and is at least aware of that to a point now. But I think he's genuine and has the courage of his convictions, like him or loathe him. The reason I suggest he is a role model is partly that he came from nothing and achieved his success through ability and dedication (e.g. AFAIK he doesn't drink, and trains to be the absolute fittest athlete he can be), and partly because he broke a glass ceiling in motorsport - can you name a single black top-level racing driver before Lewis? Or a top black golfer before Tiger Woods? To me it's about showing that anyone - regardless of background or any discrimination can make it to the very top if they have the talent and work hard enough. A postscript - LH says that the money you need now to make it through karting and into something like a young driver programme is way beyond what his dad could have afforded, so he's putting his own time, effort and money into a scheme to help support talented poorer kids who otherwise wouldn't get the chance. Don't get me wrong, motorsport is, was and always will be to an extent about how much ££££££ you have behind you, but I at least like to think that you do have a chance of making it to the top even if your dad isn't a millionnaire and well done to Lewis for trying to help with that.
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Post by Arch Stanton on Sept 10, 2020 12:58:54 GMT
I'm a bit confused as to whether Arch likes him or not, it's not clear from the above As I said he's not everyone's cup of tea. But his story is pretty much the only genuine "working class kid done good" in motorsport in recent years. He's from a mixed-race broken home in Stevenage, and growing up in the 90s and early 2000s his divorced black dad took him karting at weekends while his white mum was at home looking after his disabled younger brother. Turns out little Lewis was rather good at karting, so his dad worked 3 jobs and took him and his kart to events every weekend he could afford it. Even then, karting was expensive and the rich kids had new sets of tyres, better engines, professional mechanics and what would basically amount to team support in an attempt by their parents to propel them up the racing ladder. Lewis generally had worse equipment, just his dad for company and beat them anyway on pure ability and (his dad's) dedication to it. He also suffered abuse from the other karting kids, not just for being the poor kid but for being the only black kid. Kids - especially spoilt rich ones - are not nice. It would not have been a nice environment for that little boy to be in, especially when he was consistently beating Little Lord Ponsonby-Smythe whose dad rocks up to watch in his Bentley. When LH was about 9 or 10 he was already winning kart championships. By 13 he had been successful enough to be signed up to the McLaren young driver programme - basically an academy system where talented kids are sponsored through the motorsport ladder by a major team. Most fall by the wayside for whatever reason - lack of talent, dedication, wrong attitude, whatever. But Lewis won in every car they put him in, so much so that he was promoted to the Formula One team in 2006. It's quite quite possible that when he was in the McLaren programme and in the lower formulae that he did come across as spoilt and probably was arrogant. In my experience of them, all racing kids are spoilt, arrogant little w*nkers to a greater or lesser extent, and even the ones that weren't rich enough or good enough to make it at the top level and ended up racing in club events against people like me still had the attitude. FWIW I think LH has got better as he's got older but yes he's quite contradictory at times and is at least aware of that to a point now. But I think he's genuine and has the courage of his convictions, like him or loathe him. The reason I suggest he is a role model is partly that he came from nothing and achieved his success through ability and dedication (e.g. AFAIK he doesn't drink, and trains to be the absolute fittest athlete he can be), and partly because he broke a glass ceiling in motorsport - can you name a single black top-level racing driver before Lewis? Or a top black golfer before Tiger Woods? To me it's about showing that anyone - regardless of background or any discrimination can make it to the very top if they have the talent and work hard enough. A postscript - LH says that the money you need now to make it through karting and into something like a young driver programme is way beyond what his dad could have afforded, so he's putting his own time, effort and money into a scheme to help support talented poorer kids who otherwise wouldn't get the chance. Don't get me wrong, motorsport is, was and always will be to an extent about how much ££££££ you have behind you, but I at least like to think that you do have a chance of making it to the top even if your dad isn't a millionnaire and well done to Lewis for trying to help with that. I saw this, watched it and instantly thought of this thread. I thought it summed up the all round imbecile and complete bell end Lewis Hamilton rather well:
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Post by coyote on Mar 25, 2022 21:34:48 GMT
Kenneth Williams is scathing about (the now late) Parsons in his diaries, basically that he was all arrogance and no talent. But then Williams was famously horrible to almost everyone and revelled in being so From the original list Jeremy Clarkson would be my number 1, his arrogance and opinions on certain subjects are just awful. And sadly he has influenced a lot of other people's opinions to the extent there was a concerted campaign to get his sacking from the Beeb overturned on the basis of it being "political correctness gone mad", despite him using racist language and thumping a colleague which would be gross misconduct (not to mention a criminal offence) in every workplace in the country. Brand is, ironically, Aldous Snow but clearly doesn't realise it. And he really should keep his misguided political views to himself as he sits in his mansion telling people how to be good socialists. If there is a part deux of this I would like to see Gregg Wallace as mentioned above, plus Liam Gallagher, that awful Dominic Littlewood and Mr Smug himself Nicky Campbell. If anything comes on the TV with either of the latter two in it I have to turn it off, they grate that badly on me. There will be a part 2 soon. Soon? I just chanced upon a bit of the new 'Masterchef' while waiting for 'Not Going Out' (which I quite like) and found myself wanting to punch a certain baldy host whose expertise is fruit and veg not haute cuisine - not that he acts like it. Perhaps a part 2 could be British/Northern Irish slebs only? I can certainly suggest a few names...
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Post by AlanH on Mar 25, 2022 22:49:44 GMT
From that original list, I can't say I despise anyone bar Donald Trump (who I do despise big time). Most of the others I'd just ignore and some I have no problem with.
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Post by Arch Stanton on Mar 26, 2022 7:30:10 GMT
From that original list, I can't say I despise anyone bar Donald Trump (who I do despise big time). Most of the others I'd just ignore and some I have no problem with. Alan, how can you say that about Donald! Good old Don. He’s one of your own is Donald. Great guy. I’m hoping he’ll move back to his incestral lands in Scotland. Change his name back to McDonald’s Trump, move in next door to Daz and then run for the Scottish Presidency against Wee Jimmy Krankie. And after she’s been ousted in a lochslide victory and Scotland is great again, he then runs the successful MEGA campaign (make England great again) and becomes prime minister of England, wherein he builds a few walls to stop all the Mexican’s coming over here and taking our jobs. I mean I’m told you just can’t move for sombreros down the Labour exchange in Camborne. What we need in this country is an insurrection in each household and a voice of the common people actually talking some sense on social media.
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Post by jno on Mar 26, 2022 21:23:21 GMT
What we need in this country is an insurrection in each household and a voice of the common people actually talking some sense on social media. Have you been watching back to back 'Monkey' again?
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Post by Arch Stanton on Mar 26, 2022 23:06:04 GMT
What we need in this country is an insurrection in each household and a voice of the common people actually talking some sense on social media. Have you been watching back to back 'Monkey' again?
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Post by chrisclark1977 on Mar 27, 2022 0:39:49 GMT
Robbie Williams, I can't stand his music. Russell Brand seems a bit creepy to me.
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Post by harryshand on May 11, 2022 10:55:33 GMT
Richard Keys would get my vote but he's not on there. From the list I went for the GC as she likes to be known - a talentless waste of oxygen but highly successful so maybe it's society that's $%^&ed.
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Post by Arch Stanton on May 14, 2022 7:29:16 GMT
Richard Keys would get my vote but he's not on there. From the list I went for the GC as she likes to be known - a talentless waste of oxygen but highly successful so maybe it's society that's $%^&ed. Society went mad a long time ago Harry.
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Post by westminster on May 14, 2022 21:09:49 GMT
Robbie Williams, I can't stand his music. Russell Brand seems a bit creepy to me. Both good calls. I think Russell Brand's a prick and about as funny as toothache. The way that he (and Jonathan Ross) baited Andrew Sachs about his daughter was truly disgraceful. I can't stand Robbie Williams or his music. I simply turn it off if he comes on the radio. ps. Minor claim to fame: I once had to throw Robbie Williams out of a club. This was back in the 1990s in his 'wild man' period between leaving Take That and his solo career. Coked up and boozed up with a load of his cronies, spitting beer and groping young girls up. He seemed a bit surprised when he was rapidly removed from the place.
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Post by chrisclark1977 on May 15, 2022 9:15:24 GMT
What an idiot Robbie was back in the day.
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Post by steve99 on May 20, 2022 22:32:34 GMT
It has to be Russell Brand. He's one of those tiresome types who are unfortunately becoming ever more numerous in what passes for our culture. This type of individual clearly believe being well-known confers a supreme wisdom upon them, which gives an indication of the messed up thinking which prevails in Celebworld. There are so many 'comedians', actors and other media flotsam and jetsam attempting to convince us they're experts on economic and politics that it's all becoming quite nauseating. What puzzles me is that these folks tend to live in sumptuous houses worth seven figures and generally keep reality at a safe distance yet they feel no shame in telling the great unwashed who to vote for or what to think on social issues. They endeavour to appear enlightened but only succeed in talking shight.
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Post by Arch Stanton on May 21, 2022 13:56:39 GMT
It has to be Russell Brand. He's one of those tiresome types who are unfortunately becoming ever more numerous in what passes for our culture. This type of individual clearly believe being well-known confers a supreme wisdom upon them, which gives an indication of the messed up thinking which prevails in Celebworld. There are so many 'comedians', actors and other media flotsam and jetsam attempting to convince us they're experts on economic and politics that it's all becoming quite nauseating. What puzzles me is that these folks tend to live in sumptuous houses worth seven figures and generally keep reality at a safe distance yet they feel no shame in telling the great unwashed who to vote for or what to think on social issues. They endeavour to appear enlightened but only succeed in talking shight. I think Brand is quite an interesting character. He was incredibly annoying at one point and that whole Sachs thing was just really bad - I don’t think they (Brand and Ross) realised how bad it was until it was already too late. But anyway I digress… Brand used to be full of these student left wing politics, spouting his mouth off with all the usual drivel but I think he’s grown up quite a bit and his views aren’t as easily right-on or irritating. He seems to have grown up and raises some good questions of the current political landscape and I don’t think he’s as naive and silly as he used to be. He seems to be questioning a lot and looking for truth.
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Post by jjmolloy on May 26, 2022 11:57:10 GMT
David F-cking Beckham. All Day Long. Greedy ****.
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Post by steve99 on May 27, 2022 17:55:01 GMT
Becks looks a right state with all those tattoos. You only used to see so much 'body art' on American jailbirds who were in the penitentiary for a few decades at least but now it's de rigeur for the totally cool dudes in our culture, apparently.
Beckham represents the modern day footballer where the thinking is that you can never spend too much time on your appearance or have too much money (did the world really need overpriced toiletries with his name on them?)
Football had the odd poser in the 70s and 80s but the deep-seated narcissism and lust for cash was nowhere near what it is now and the so-called beautiful game has become a grotesque parody of its former self. And shouldn't Posh treat herself to a fish supper? I think she'd better lest she disappears down a drain. Oh wait...
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Post by jno on Jun 7, 2022 4:28:26 GMT
Richard Keys would get my vote but he's not on there. From the list I went for the GC as she likes to be known - a talentless waste of oxygen but highly successful so maybe it's society that's $%^&ed. Society went mad a long time ago Harry. Richard Keys and Andy Grey are still on Qatari BeIN Sports I think
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 7, 2022 19:32:56 GMT
A slippery, slimy wrong'un who only came out because he got found out.
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 7, 2022 19:44:26 GMT
It has to be Russell Brand. He's one of those tiresome types who are unfortunately becoming ever more numerous in what passes for our culture. This type of individual clearly believe being well-known confers a supreme wisdom upon them, which gives an indication of the messed up thinking which prevails in Celebworld. There are so many 'comedians', actors and other media flotsam and jetsam attempting to convince us they're experts on economic and politics that it's all becoming quite nauseating. What puzzles me is that these folks tend to live in sumptuous houses worth seven figures and generally keep reality at a safe distance yet they feel no shame in telling the great unwashed who to vote for or what to think on social issues. They endeavour to appear enlightened but only succeed in talking shight. I was trying to think of what to say about Brand but couldn't put into words. You've summed it up really well steve with nothing left for me to add other than if i ever met Brand i'd be extremely tempted to punch his horselike teeth down his f$cking throat!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2022 2:04:29 GMT
One name I wish was on the list is Eddie Izzard. I can't even bear to look at it. Is it even of human origin?
I've never forgotten one episode of BBC Question Time just before the Brexit vote (I promise this won't be political) and it was sitting next to Nigel Farage. It launched into a viscious personal attack on Farage and his wife full of bile, hatred and vitriol. I was totally shocked and so was the audience. To his great credit Farage sat there silently and took it all. I've never forgiven Izzard for that disgusting display of one person's inhumanity to another.
Another name that should be on the list is Jo Brand. A washed-up, ugly, foul-mouthed old midwife who for some inexplicable reason has found herself on TV. Why? Why? Why?
Honestly, I can't be bothered to write any more about her.
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Post by jno on Jun 13, 2022 4:06:47 GMT
I'm not a fan of Eddie Izzard either, that said Farage is pretty loathsome for many too, but let's keep political discussion off this forum.
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Post by harryshand on Jun 13, 2022 5:50:55 GMT
I followed Eddie Izzard through Heathrow a few years ago. Thigh length boots and a face plastered, properly plastered, with make up.
I can’t recall Eddie’s outfit though😂
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Post by wayne2467 on Jan 17, 2023 19:21:51 GMT
Have we had James Corden”? I’ve noticed he gets a lot of stick ( not sure why) he has got that kind of smug look about him but it can’t be that can it?
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Post by paffetic on Jan 18, 2023 10:37:50 GMT
Not sure I understand many of the nominations:
Justin Bieber - Who are you? Are you a 13YO girl? er… he’s not FOR you. What do we not get here?
Clarkson/ Morgan/ Trump / Cowell - All are supposed to be odious. That’s the whole point. Complain grass is green? The late Mr Michael Winner knew he was odious. he would revel in it, he had it as an art-form. Get the joke, and he was hilarious.
Clarkson/Morgan/Trump et al, unlike the others on the list, none hide from the fact. They're professional front-bottoms... and that’d be why they exist. It's not about liking them. There's no pretence to be worthy. You're told what to expect, and then they deliver. It ain't grey.
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Post by ltd on Jan 18, 2023 15:51:29 GMT
Clarkson/ Morgan/ Trump / Cowell - All are supposed to be odious. That’s the whole point. Complain grass is green? The late Mr Michael Winner knew he was odious. he would revel in it, he had it as an art-form. Get the joke, and he was hilarious. Clarkson/Morgan/Trump et al, unlike the others on the list, none hide from the fact. They're professional front-bottoms... and that’d be why they exist. It's not about liking them. There's no pretence to be worthy. You're told what to expect, and then they deliver. It ain't grey. I think it was the late PJ O'Rourke who said Trump's bid for the presidency was a piece of self publicising performance art that had got well and truly out of hand. Trump himself probably the most surprised that he won. Morgan I don't like because under the odious facade, he is genuinley odious - the mock POW abuse photos and his insider dealing being particularly egregious examples. Cowell's a relentless promoter of cr*p music and worthy of the death penalty for that alone. Clarkson I'd have a bit more respect for if he'd not apologised to the Sussexes. He can forget his invite to the Coronation now.
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Post by Arch Stanton on Jan 19, 2023 21:54:57 GMT
Have we had James Corden”? I’ve noticed he gets a lot of stick ( not sure why) he has got that kind of smug look about him but it can’t be that can it? That and he’s a ***t!
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