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Post by jno on May 30, 2016 4:04:53 GMT
Going on a long trip in your car? Good luck!  Which TWO of these types of motorway/highway/Autobahn etc. driver really aggravates you the most and deserves to be hung, drawn and quartered for crimes against other Honest John Drivers and the rules of highway code? No gender jibes here please - lots of men are rubbish motorway drivers too this is solely to determine which act upsets you tge most. Pick two from the list or choose 'other' as necessary. |
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Post by ltd on May 30, 2016 6:37:54 GMT
Driving back from London on the M40 the other day there seemed to be a hell of a lot of middle lane hoggers - particularly bad between The Smoke and Oxford for some reason.
See a lot of snail monsters on the M50 which despite its motorway designation is just a glorified dual carriageway.
Hands full brigade are probably the most morally reprehensible, especially the ones texting on their phones. Very dangerous.
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Post by jno on May 30, 2016 7:02:48 GMT
A few signs/billboards from the German and Austrian Autobahns here that I've seen over the years, reminding drivers of some rules and that death is just around the corner:  Left pic: ...and who's driving? Middle pic: reminding everyone to move over and not hog the middle lane Right pic: One tailgates, three die All very pleasant and I'm really not sure how much of a difference they really make. Drivers on phones, not hands free really bug me. I was in Hungary yesterday, a queue a mile long at a traffic light, guy at the light doesn't notice green as he is too busy fiddling with gadgetry to notice the green light. I might be billy no mates here, but I would honestly vote for a complete ban on using a mobile/cellphone while the car is in motion. Handsfree is ok but the amount of idiots I see distracted by gadgetry is incredible. Perhaps the driverless car is the answer!  |
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Post by ace5150 on May 30, 2016 8:44:14 GMT
Pimped up bangers, driven by a Chav with a Burberry baseball cap with MASSIVE speakers on max volume when there's a traffic jam, and you just KNOW it will be rap music. For a good 30 minutes.
I hate that!
Also, rubber neckers slowing down to view a crash.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 9:03:00 GMT
My pet hates are the idiots that, because they are driving at 70 mph, think that the middle lane should be used at all times. They see the inside lane as a crawler lane and refuse to use that. By this sheer stupidity they are effectively making a 3 lane motorway into a 2 lane one. No wonder the roads of Europe are getting clogged with traffic.
The other ones I detest are the arrogant cretins who ignore the law and use a hand held mobile phone whilst driving. So,so dangerous.
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Post by Portland Road on May 30, 2016 10:19:35 GMT
 I have noticed the amount of motorists who flash their lights 'to let you in to their road space', even though they are hundreds of yards away.... And also, despite 'laws' being passed, the number of people eating/drinking or using mobile devices. They make others miss green lights etc....
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Post by plasticpenguin on May 30, 2016 13:35:59 GMT
Tailgaters for me. Around my village all these Chelsea tractor drivers (and there are loads) think they own the roads. I rarely use the M25 or 'Car Park' as it's locally known.
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Post by ace5150 on May 30, 2016 15:36:23 GMT
When I pull out of a junction, with plenty of time and distance, you usually get some tosser deciding to drive right up behind you as if to remind you he had right of way, some 200 yards away. I always slow down to infuriate them when they do that.
Also, people that throw their picnic rubbish out the window into a hedgerow. That makes my pi$$ boil.
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Post by ltd on May 30, 2016 17:33:35 GMT
Also, people that throw their picnic rubbish out the window into a hedgerow. That makes my pi$$ boil. That's a particular bugbear of mine as well, only really started to irritate in the last couple of years. I don't know if that's because I'm getting older or it's becoming more widespread - possibly both? |
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Post by jno on May 30, 2016 17:50:10 GMT
Also, people that throw their picnic rubbish out the window into a hedgerow. That makes my pi$$ boil. That's a particular bugbear of mine as well, only really started to irritate in the last couple of years. I don't know if that's because I'm getting older or it's becoming more widespread - possibly both? Definitely widespread ... in German (at least in Austria) they even have a special word for it: " Dreckschleuder" (rubbish slinger) - here's another sign: Translation: Don't be a Dreckschleuder! Roadsides are not rubbish dumps.  Again, I don't know how much of a difference it makes other than recognition that some drivers are slobs. |
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Post by mybodyguard on Jun 3, 2016 12:24:24 GMT
Went with the polluters and the hay bailers. I just had a flower pot fall out of the back of a wagon the other night and I crushed it to pieces. Luckily, no damage to my car. I also hate the older cars that I have no idea how they got past inspections, as the fumes that pour out are noxious.
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Post by gustav on Jun 7, 2016 10:44:27 GMT
I've voted for tailgaters and phone users, they are all aggravating but those two are the most dangerous.
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Post by bensonrad on Jun 7, 2016 12:42:02 GMT
Do people really stop under bridges in storms! never seen that, haha
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Post by jno on Jun 7, 2016 17:04:04 GMT
Do people really stop under bridges in storms! never seen that, haha Yup, commonplace where I live, admittedly the storms are somewhat 'end of the world'-style with rain coming down in man-size portions with the risk of hailstones the size of golf balls - these can often seriously dent cars all over. I had this a few years back when my car was pelted with mega-hail while attempting to visit this German castle:  Some just run for cover when there is rain though, which really annoys me. Search Google for "car hail damage" to see some nice pics. |
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 11, 2016 15:24:20 GMT
I voted for 'Undertakers'.
This enrages me beyond belief, especially when i move into the middle lane to let someone join the motorway from a sliproad and they put their foot down, leaving me sitting in the middle lane!
Not only is this manouvere illegal, it's down right bad manners after I've made room for them.
However, the worst motorway drivers in my opinion (not listed) are those who drive at inconsistent speeds.
As a driver of a vehicle limited to 56mph, there's nothing worse than someone overtaking you only to slow down to say 53mph which means that you have to then overtake them and become a 'Snail Monster' through no fault of your own.
Very often, the iconsistent speed merchant will then notice that they've slowed down when they see me going past them and will then speed up again, leaving me stuck in the middle lane looking like a prize Charlie!
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Post by yorkshirebilly on Jun 11, 2016 18:41:40 GMT
I vote for HGV drivers who pull out with no regard for a car that is approaching them fast in the lane that they are pulling into, and who then overtake another lorry at speed of only 1 mph faster. I'd like to see a change to the Highway Code to say that on a two-lane road, HGVs should not block both lanes, therby reducing the whoel road to a 56 mph speed limt for many miles, and if the overtaking lorry pulls out and then finds that his lorry is limited by power or speed limiter from doing at least 10 mph faster than what they are overtaking, they should abort the overtake and pull back in again. It would help if all HGVs had sufficent power to maintain whatever speed they are limited to on all normal roads (steep hills excepted) so they is no a longer a need for one HGV to overtake another. I don't mind an HGV overtaking a tractor or an abnormal load that is travelling at 20 mph. It's those who think that it's acceptible to overtake a lorry doing 53 mph when they are limited to 56 mph that my condemnation is aimed at.
Second vote goes to tractor drivers. Firstly if they are only able to do 20 or 30 in a 60 zone, they should pull in at every layby to let traffic past. Secondly, they should question why they are using a tractor rather than a proper lorry to tow hugs loads of hay/straw, and why they travel such long distances rather than just between fields within the same farm. There's a trunk dual carriageway which my wife uses for getting to/from work, and at rush hour the tractor drivers come out in force, reducing a two-lane road to one effective lane. I'm sure they choose rush hour deliberately, because whenever I use that road during the day, I very rarely see tractors. It's as if they deliberately choose the worst time possible to transport large loads and implements.
Other "bad drivers" such as tailgaters and those who overtake at the last second before a three-lane road narrows to two lanes, are bad but not in the same league.
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Post by Portland Road on Jun 13, 2016 9:22:57 GMT
Interesting points yorkshirebilly. I sometimes think though, that car drivers speed into hazards, e.g. they see a slower large vehicle ahead, but keep accelerating towards it, instead of easing off. Unfortunately, large vehicles are mostly speed-restricted (as barrythebook describes) and often cannot get the extra burst of speed needed.
Good points about tractors though, it would be better if they pulled in periodically - and if travelling a greater distance, as you say a normal lorry would be more suitable for the road speed.
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Post by yorkshirebilly on Jun 13, 2016 14:05:41 GMT
Interesting points yorkhirebilly. I sometimes think though, that car drivers speed into hazards, e.g. they see a slower large vehicle ahead, but keep accelerating towards it, instead of easing off. Unfortunately, large vehicles are mostly speed-restricted (as barrythebook describes) and often cannot get the extra burst of speed needed. Good points about tractors though, it would be better if they pulled in periodically - and if travelling a greater distance, as you say a normal lorry would be more suitable for the road speed. If I am driving at 70 mph in Lane 2, then a lorry that is speed-limited to 56 mph should not pull into that lane until I (and any cars behind me) have gone past and there is a long gap so no-one behind the lorry will be inconvenienced. End of story. Sadly too many lorry drivers seem to think that if they are going at 55 mph and want to go at 56 mph (which will require them to overtake the lorry in front) they can just indicate and pull out - sometimes even when you, the car driver, are already alongside them. If it was an isolated lorry, I wouldn't mind, but on some stretches of two-lane road, it's every sodding one. The two bad stretches of road that I know of are the A34 between M4 J13 and Didcot and the A1 between the M18 junction and Ferrybridge power station. Many times I've joined the A34 or A1 at the M4 or M18 junction respectively and it has taken me the whole length of the road to get past the lorries because lorry 1 will pull out to overtake lorry 2 and will eventually pull in again, then lorry 3 just ahead will pull out to overtake lorry 4. You may even get two lorries playing leapfrog: 1 will overtake 2, pull in and immediately 2 will overtake 1 - and they can keep that up all day long. I means that the whole of a two-lane road is reduced to queueing traffic trundling along at 56. No problem if they meet a really slow vehicle - I'll gladly let lorries pull out to overtake a tractor or an abnormal load at 20 mph, but not when a 56 mph wants to overtake a 55 mph - that's just selfish. At least some roads (like part of the A34 which I mentioned, on a hilly section, have a "no vehicles over 7.5 T between stated hours" restriction. I wish lorries were allowed to briefly exceed their speed limiter (eg to do no more than for example 10 bursts of 60 every hour to overtake as fast as possible), and it's up to drivers to use their quota wisely or else stay put. It's only a problem on two-lane roads. On a three (or more) lane road, you might curse silently if you have to ease off the power because a lorry has pulled in front of you, but you know it's only until there's a gap in Lane 3 for you to pull into to get past the lorry. My wife used to work on a farm in her younger days and she and her colleagues had it drummed into them that they should pull into laybies every mile or so if they were driving a tractor (and especially if they had a long trailer on the back) to let cars get past - only good manners. She reckons that it's in the past 10 years or so that she's noticed a change in tractor drivers' habits and far fewer are willing to do it than used to. It's no joke to have to go 6 miles behind a tractor doing 20 because he won't pull in and there's too much traffic going in the opposite direction and/or too many slight bends to make it safe to overtake. I notice when I was on holiday in Scotland that there were signs on some of the A roads saying something "frustration causes accidents - if you are driving a slow vehicle please make use of all the pulling-in places to let the rest of the traffic past" although more concisely worded. Good idea - shame England doesn't have similar signs. The really bad problem round here, which fortunately only happens once a year in each direction is when the gipsies/travellers make their way to/from Seamer Fair near Scarborough. Most have motor caravans and so can do reasonable speeds, but you get a few who have horse-drawn caravans which go the whole way from York to Scarborough at horse walking speed (not even trotting/cantering speed) which leads to unbelievable queues because most of the road is single carriageway. It's lovely to see the old painted caravans, but they are *very* slow :-( Related to the problem of slow lorries pulling out, I've noticed that there is a breed of car driver which doesn't like overtaking. They will drive in Lane 2 at 70, then when they come to a vehicle (even another car) in Lane 1, they will slam on the brakes and slow down to only slightly faster than it, take ages to get past and they will accelerate hard as soon as they have passed it, rather than keeping up a constant speed. Obviously you look for cars that might want to pull out to overtake something, but if it's an isolated vehicle with nothing that it might try to overtake, then why slow right down - it's not going to pull out into your path. |
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 13, 2016 19:27:23 GMT
I hear many people make the same points as you yorkshirebilly and whilst I can see where you're comimg from, i think your opinion and views would change if you were to drive a speed restricted large van or lorry yourself, even for just a couple of hours as an experience.
I will agree however that there are some lorry drivers who will pull out into the path of an oncoming vehicle in the outside lane which is not acceptable.
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Post by Jack or Knave on Jun 14, 2016 19:20:52 GMT
Because of my location I don't drive on motorways much any more. Back in the day I have to confess I regularly undertook the middle lane hoggers who I voted for!
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Post by arnie on Jun 17, 2016 10:45:12 GMT
Middle lane poodlers are the biggest pain in backside for me, more the fact that they are totally oblivious and completely f'ing clueless.
Tailgaters a close second. Love to wind these buggers up.
Not on the list but as some have mentioned, the Vauxhall Chavalier brigade complete with coal scuttle exhaust and the barely visible Burbery Apes inside nodding to Dumb & Bass or Gangsta cr*p at Richter Scale bass level.
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Post by Portland Road on Jun 22, 2016 7:52:39 GMT
I hear many people make the same points as you yorkshirebilly and whilst I can see where you're coming from, i think your opinion and views would change if you were to drive a speed restricted large van or lorry yourself, even for just a couple of hours as an experience. I will agree however that there are some lorry drivers who will pull out into the path of an oncoming vehicle in the outside lane which is not acceptable. I drive speed-restricted vehicles and it can be frustrating. Also, the acceleration speed of HGVs can be determined by if they are laden or not. The difference is much more marked than that of a car or van. If you are level with them at the traffic lights, an empty HGV on its way to the pick-up may give you a run for the money, which can be quite startling. A laden one is much more plodding. I live near a port/freightliner terminal and these characteristics are very evident. |
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Post by SunRayD on Jun 24, 2016 19:51:41 GMT
Ahh, at last. Something I can participate in again. *g* Welsh bands? 1970s ITC shows? The KLF? Definitely I'm born in the wrong country for that kind of stuff. Beforehand - I'm continental, so it's right side driving and kilometers for me.  You already mentioned most of the unnecessary participants on the streets. And I learned a lot of a new words. Poodlers? Hoggers? Rubber neckers! Great word, bad habit. Storm chickens! :-D Well, getting into a hailstorm driving a rare convertible with a soft-top would cause me to seek out a good cover, too. Otherwise - slow down and through you go. My "favourites": The ones first lightly swaying to the overtaking lane, THEN indicating while at the same time time changing lanes, but NEVER looking. As if their indicating alone makes me vanish. Speeding up while I'm overtaking is a classic, too. I often get the feeling that seeing my little old car go past them reminds them that this must not happen. Ever. Using mobiles, especially texting!, is one of the worst, because it's extremely dangerous. Frankly I'm against using phones at all, not even hands-free. It's extremely distracting. One can't concentrate on traffic AND on the person he's talking to. Same with pedestrians. Completely oblivious to their surroundings or traffic while using the mobile. My favourite? Young mother with pram, toddler and a dog, unable to handle anything apart from her phone. Those lightweight vehicles on highways? Limited to 45 km/h on a 100 km/h road with no possibility to overtake for ages? Should be banned. I have to cover quite a lot of tarmac these days, so middle lane drivers are testing my patience extremely. Did they reproduce over the last years? Seeing the first lane empty for miles, while the other two are stuck with tailgaters - yes, there are moments, when I undertake, too. I confess. But only when I think it would be more dangerous to join the bulk on the other lanes. It's illegal, I know, so no excuse. Though I think it's not ok to change to the first lane to overtake. Inconsistent speed, overtaking and then slowing down before me, are contenders too. And the ones who race on the second lane until they tailgate the slower in front, but are not capable of using the empty third lane to overtake. Why is that? What are they afraid of? But be sure the moment the slower gives way again, he speeds up to not let me go by. No lights in tunnels or at bad weather conditions, because it must be enough, when they see something. No need to be seen, is there? I vote for the Hands Full Brigade and the middle lane drivers, for they are not only annoying, but dangerous, too. |
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Post by Zimbo on Aug 4, 2016 18:17:08 GMT
Definitely the lack of indicating when changing lanes. I was taught to do it, so it just seems polite to do so.
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Post by jno on Nov 21, 2019 3:27:13 GMT
Just saw this and had to revisit this thread...
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Post by gra966 on Nov 22, 2019 18:50:29 GMT
Particularly this time of year , when it gets dark early , the drivers that think their day running lights act as headlights , totally unaware that the rear of their car is not illuminated !
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Post by westldner on Jan 5, 2020 3:00:07 GMT
Are Idling Poodlers the one's who hog the middle lane?
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Post by Arch Stanton on Jan 5, 2020 8:59:36 GMT
Are Idling Poodlers the one's who hog the middle lane? Yes! They are a dangerous menace and police should pull them. I never noticed how bad and dangerous they were until I started doing more long journeys. I know this DM is about motorways and this doesn’t happen on motorways but I tell you the other type of drivers that get right on my wick... those that travel at 38mph. . . everywhere. In a national speed limit of 60mph = they do 38. They then drive into a 30mph = they still do 38. It doesn’t matter how good the driving conditions are. They are just oblivious. If I drove like this in a driving test I would fail and be deemed unfit to be on the road. So why are these idiots not being pulled? |
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Post by westldner on Jan 5, 2020 15:40:41 GMT
Are Idling Poodlers the one's who hog the middle lane? Yes! They are a dangerous menace and police should pull them. I never noticed how bad and dangerous they were until I started doing more long journeys. I know this DM is about motorways and this doesn’t happen on motorways but I tell you the other type of drivers that get right on my wick... those that travel at 38mph. . . everywhere. In a national speed limit of 60mph = they do 38. They then drive into a 30mph = they still do 38. It doesn’t matter how good the driving conditions are. They are just oblivious. If I drove like this in a driving test I would fail and be deemed unfit to be on the road. So why are these idiots not being pulled? Oh, okay, yeah them, very horrible drivers. Driving around town with my father and then hitting the motorway for the not-for-rookie drivers and then I get those drivers in the middle lane, like the world is around them. Nice to see them getting reported like this article here and a few more: www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/mercedes-driver-fined-middle-lane-17502759"Joins the motorway and joins the middle lane!", wow and driver denies it. I'm seeing more of that. |
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Post by harryshand on Jun 14, 2020 16:07:42 GMT
Middle lane %#$&s should be shot in my opinion.
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