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Post by jno on Feb 4, 2017 18:19:12 GMT
don't know a single one of those songs... :-( I guess it was a bit before my time as I was born in '67 and additionally TJ were more of an underground band not known too well in Germany... Might listen in to check them out, tho. I am not sure how much of a hit 'The Jam' were in Germany and Austria - sure, they had hits but folks I speak to about them say "Who?" - the Austrian drummer in the band I play in is a M A S S I V E music fan, and has collected and hoarded vinyl for over 40 years - his house is a mountain of vinyl and CDs. I asked him about the The Jam and he could only really name 'Going Underground' which is a real shame. Played him some tunes, he soon loved them. Apart from Weller's dodgy troosers, a bit of enunciation and his ego, it is very hard to find anything wrong with The Jam tbh, which is incredible from an OCD nitpicker like me. I just watched this live performance of 'Strange Town' on-line, I love it, especially Bruce's vocal around 03m30s in. So much energy from them, utterly superb. Paul Weller pretending to be Jimi Hendrix at the end of this performance of 'The Eton Rifles': |
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Post by wayne2467 on Feb 4, 2017 21:49:29 GMT
I just put DITTSAM. to number one- what great lyrics
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Post by Portland Road on Feb 5, 2017 11:34:19 GMT
Wasn't the UK hit single version of 'That's Entertainment' a West German import? IIRC it wasn't on the normal Polydor label (even though Polydor were a German company).
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Post by Zimbo on Feb 4, 2018 10:33:11 GMT
Rick Buckler is Johnnny Walker’s guest on Sounds Of The Seventies On Radio 2 (available on the Iplayer for four weeks after).
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 4, 2018 15:54:55 GMT
Down in the tube station every time.david watts a great track also.
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Post by plasticpenguin on Feb 6, 2018 5:31:47 GMT
There's a strong case for (almost) all of them.
With everything considered I've plumped for 'When Your Young', for two important reasons: 1) It was the first single I ever purchased of The Jam in 79. And 2) because of the flipside: Smithers Jones. IMHO the best song Foxton has ever written. I think we've all come across or known a Smithers Jones.
Then again, I could vote for Start/Liza Radley. Another wonderful flipside. No, I'll stick with my original choice.
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Post by Portland Road on Feb 6, 2018 8:05:16 GMT
Rick Buckler is Johnnny Walker’s guest on Sounds Of The Seventies On Radio 2 (available on the Iplayer for four weeks after). Yes, thanks for the heads up  I don't think I've heard Rick speak too much in person, and he comes across as a genuine guy. The interview wasn't too deep, and he didn't go into any bitterness about the end of The Jam. |
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Post by plasticpenguin on Feb 6, 2018 9:09:08 GMT
Rick Buckler is Johnnny Walker’s guest on Sounds Of The Seventies On Radio 2 (available on the Iplayer for four weeks after). Yes, thanks for the heads up I don't think I've heard Rick speak too much in person, and he comes across as a genuine guy.The interview wasn't too deep, and he didn't go into any bitterness about the end of The Jam. Sorry to lower the tone, but Rick and mate Russell appeared on a car TV programme called Auto Trader. Hosted by Mike Brewer, they try and find people (usually ordinary folk) a car of their choice. Being a petrolhead does have its benefits.  From 2 mins 26 |
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Post by flyingsquad on Feb 6, 2018 12:17:12 GMT
There's a strong case for (almost) all of them. With everything considered I've plumped for 'When Your Young', for two important reasons: 1) It was the first single I ever purchased of The Jam in 79. And 2) because of the flipside: Smithers Jones. IMHO the best song Foxton has ever written. I think we've all come across or known a Smithers Jones. Then again, I could vote for Start/Liza Radley. Another wonderful flipside. No, I'll stick with my original choice. Great song that has a similar theme to 2 of my favourite Kinks songs 'A Well Respected Man' and 'Mr Pleasant'. |
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Post by plasticpenguin on Feb 6, 2018 13:19:45 GMT
There's a strong case for (almost) all of them. With everything considered I've plumped for 'When Your Young', for two important reasons: 1) It was the first single I ever purchased of The Jam in 79. And 2) because of the flipside: Smithers Jones. IMHO the best song Foxton has ever written. I think we've all come across or known a Smithers Jones. Then again, I could vote for Start/Liza Radley. Another wonderful flipside. No, I'll stick with my original choice. Great song that has a similar theme to 2 of my favourite Kinks songs 'A Well Respected Man' and 'Mr Pleasant'. Yeah, probably one of their best songs period. In all truth it would easier to vote for the one I don't particularly like. |
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Post by jno on Feb 16, 2018 4:33:00 GMT
From The Jam - I have heard they're top banana too and arguably a much preferred watch to urm, what's his name ... Weller.  |
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Post by plasticpenguin on Feb 16, 2018 8:38:46 GMT
Whenever I see Weller on TV it reminds me to change the Vileda.  |
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Post by Portland Road on Feb 19, 2018 8:41:10 GMT
Looks like they are waiting to use a toilet. "Steef, 'ave you got 20p? 'Aven't had a hit for a few months and the old coffers are a bit thin"....I thought they were in the doctor's waiting room, suffering from the blues.... |
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Post by plasticpenguin on Feb 19, 2018 17:02:53 GMT
The idiom Coals to Newcastle springs to mind. Was that an album track by The Jam? Yup - from the album 'Hindsight'.  |
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Post by plasticpenguin on Feb 19, 2018 17:05:07 GMT
Looks like they are waiting to use a toilet. "Steef, 'ave you got 20p? 'Aven't had a hit for a few months and the old coffers are a bit thin"....I thought they were in the doctor's waiting room, suffering from the blues.... Or waiting for a train... with a bladder problem. |
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Post by billymedhurst on Feb 20, 2018 20:47:29 GMT
The best Jam single that never was, but should have been, is 'In the Street Today'Absolute classic. I do remember a Radio1 DJ (forget who) playing the wrong version of 'This Is The Modern World'  |
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Post by harryshand on Jun 15, 2020 18:30:08 GMT
One of the best British bands of all time, so many great singles in such a short span. Tough choice but plumped for Malice in the end but could have been several of the choices.
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Post by milo on Jun 15, 2020 19:14:09 GMT
Oooh! Tough one this! For me it's either The Eton Rifles, Town Called Malice or News of the World. Love the lyrics to The Eton Rifles. Genius!
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Post by coyote on Jun 16, 2020 17:04:47 GMT
Wasn't the UK hit single version of 'That's Entertainment' a West German import? IIRC it wasn't on the normal Polydor label (even though Polydor were a German company). And the version on 'Snap' is the demo - ISTR reading the sleeve notes, which I did religiously for every album I bought, that Weller felt the demo had an energy he never managed to recapture in any subsequent version. And he's said many times he wrote it in 10 minutes when he came home p*ssed from the pub. I voted for 'Tubestation' btw, I love the imagery in the lyrics as much as anything, but like almost everyone has said you're spoilt for choice here |
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 16, 2020 17:21:27 GMT
Wasn't the UK hit single version of 'That's Entertainment' a West German import? IIRC it wasn't on the normal Polydor label (even though Polydor were a German company). And the version on 'Snap' is the demo - ISTR reading the sleeve notes, which I did religiously for every album I bought, that Weller felt the demo had an energy he never managed to recapture in any subsequent version. And he's said many times he wrote it in 10 minutes when he came home p*ssed from the pub. I voted for 'Tubestation' btw, I love the imagery in the lyrics as much as anything, but like almost everyone has said you're spoilt for choice here That makes a bit more sense knowing 'That's Entertainment' was a West German import. As I posted earlier in the thread, the b side is a live (in Germany I think) version of 'Down In The Tube Station At Midnight' and is excellent. Interesting information about the version on 'Snap' lc, I always liked that |
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Post by plasticpenguin on Jun 16, 2020 17:42:08 GMT
Wasn't the UK hit single version of 'That's Entertainment' a West German import? IIRC it wasn't on the normal Polydor label (even though Polydor were a German company). And the version on 'Snap' is the demo - ISTR reading the sleeve notes, which I did religiously for every album I bought, that Weller felt the demo had an energy he never managed to recapture in any subsequent version. And he's said many times he wrote it in 10 minutes when he came home p*ssed from the pub. I voted for 'Tubestation' btw, I love the imagery in the lyrics as much as anything, but like almost everyone has said you're spoilt for choice here Interesting that Weller played all the instruments on the demo version. I think it's one of the first times that Rick and Bruce felt they had their noses put out by the control Weller was taking on later recordings. |
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Post by coyote on Jun 16, 2020 17:46:30 GMT
And the version on 'Snap' is the demo - ISTR reading the sleeve notes, which I did religiously for every album I bought, that Weller felt the demo had an energy he never managed to recapture in any subsequent version. And he's said many times he wrote it in 10 minutes when he came home p*ssed from the pub. I voted for 'Tubestation' btw, I love the imagery in the lyrics as much as anything, but like almost everyone has said you're spoilt for choice here Interesting that Weller played all the instruments on the demo version. I think it's one of the first times that Rick and Bruce felt they had their noses put out by the control Weller was taking on later recordings. I did not know that I was always under the impression that the others got fed up with the direction Weller was going, basically trying to make them into a soul band, but that ultimately it was Weller's call to end it rather than Buckler or Foxton. |
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Post by harryshand on Jun 16, 2020 18:39:46 GMT
Interesting that Weller played all the instruments on the demo version. I think it's one of the first times that Rick and Bruce felt they had their noses put out by the control Weller was taking on later recordings. I did not know that I was always under the impression that the others got fed up with the direction Weller was going, basically trying to make them into a soul band, but that ultimately it was Weller's call to end it rather than Buckler or Foxton. I guess we’ll never know what caused the split but I read somewhere that Weller basically got fed up doing nearly all the writing and felt Buckler and Foxton weren’t putting the same effort in. Imagine the clamor for tickets if they ever reformed? No chance of it happening going off Weller’s stance he’s held for nearly 40 years. I say no chance but I thought that about my favourite band The Specials who reformed with 6 of the original 7 eventually. |
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Post by coyote on Jun 16, 2020 19:15:38 GMT
I did not know that I was always under the impression that the others got fed up with the direction Weller was going, basically trying to make them into a soul band, but that ultimately it was Weller's call to end it rather than Buckler or Foxton. I guess we’ll never know what caused the split but I read somewhere that Weller basically got fed up doing nearly all the writing and felt Buckler and Foxton weren’t putting the same effort in. Imagine the clamor for tickets if they ever reformed? No chance of it happening going off Weller’s stance he’s held for nearly 40 years. I say no chance but I thought that about my favourite band The Specials who reformed with 6 of the original 7 eventually. And... The Eagles - the hilariously named 'Hell Freezes Over' tour GnR - 'Not In This Lifetime' tour and not forgetting The Police's long one-off reunion tour in 2007-8. I was thinking about getting tickets for that but OMG I'm so glad I didn't. I saw one of the shows on youtube recently and the "reinterpreting" of some of the songs (ie. dropping the keys and slowing them down) was just awful. And 3 old men knocking them out with no enthusiasm at all except for the gazillions of dollars they were making was horrible to watch. I preferred the good old days when they hated each other Can't see Weller ever doing it either as he doesn't need the money or probably the aggravation. I am, however, fully expecting an Oasis reunion tour in a few years, partly for the $$$$ but partly as they enjoy the aggravation |
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Post by harryshand on Jun 16, 2020 19:38:59 GMT
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Post by harryshand on Jun 16, 2020 19:44:15 GMT
Can't see Weller ever doing it either as he doesn't need the money or probably the aggravation. I am, however, fully expecting an Oasis reunion tour in a few years, partly for the $$$$ but partly as they enjoy the aggravation I went to Oasis at Knebworth and despite loving the first two albums I wasn’t blown away by them live. They had a hard act to follow in The Prodigy who were incredible so maybe that raised the atmosphere to a level Oasis couldn’t match, I dunno, it had been a very long day by then and was about to get a lot longer. 4hours in the coach park remains a bitter memory to this day. |
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Post by Shot By Both Sides on Jun 16, 2020 20:32:45 GMT
The double A Going Underground / Dreams Of Children
Start! would be my next best.
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Post by plasticpenguin on Jun 16, 2020 21:23:26 GMT
Interesting that Weller played all the instruments on the demo version. I think it's one of the first times that Rick and Bruce felt they had their noses put out by the control Weller was taking on later recordings. I did not know that I was always under the impression that the others got fed up with the direction Weller was going, basically trying to make them into a soul band, but that ultimately it was Weller's call to end it rather than Buckler or Foxton. It was because they were going in a different direction after they released 'Absolute Beginners', but the origins of discontent can be found when Weller wanted to show Bruce and Rick the songs he wanted to record -- that was on the Sound Affects album in 1980, which incl That's Entertainment. Also interesting that on the previous album 'Setting Sons', Mick Talbot was the keyboard player. You can see where that was going. |
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Post by jjmolloy on Jun 16, 2020 22:15:47 GMT
There's just too many great songs to choose from. I remember their singles going straight in at No.1, which was UNHEARD of back in the early 80s. Was never a Mod or anything but I really liked them at the time.
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Post by kelotoph on Jul 29, 2020 21:45:10 GMT
Difficult decision - ask me next week and it'll be something different, but for now I've gone for "When You're Young", as apart from having a cracking rhythm the lyrics are very reflective of what many saw to be a bleak outlook for youngsters in the late 1970s.
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