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Post by thewoodster on Feb 19, 2018 17:43:33 GMT
Vinyl,and as it’s coming back thick and fast,the 30 yr compact disc error was good,But you Carnt beat... Put the needle on the record...lol
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Post by logie on Jul 2, 2020 10:25:55 GMT
Couldn't vote - where's the cassette option? A design classic.
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Post by BMW on Jul 2, 2020 11:07:09 GMT
Has anyone seen or read ‘Last Shop Standing’, book & film by Graham Jones documenting the decline of record shops through the 80’s to 00’s? Really interesting stuff and there is music royalty in the film, Weller, Marr, Bragg for example. Aired on Sky Arts several times, probably still available ‘on demand’ if you have not seen it but would like to.
There is now a follow up book and film, released last year, ‘The vinyl revival and shops that made it happen’, bringing us full circle and cataloguing all the decent vinyl stores across the uk. So if you like your vinyl, record shops and crate digging it’s well worth a look, Google it you will find it easily enough.
I must disclose a personal interest, Graham is a good mate and used to keep wicket for my cricket team! I’m not on a bung for this shameless plug though, I just think if you are a vinyl fan you will love his work.
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Post by felixdeburgh on Jul 2, 2020 18:58:22 GMT
Yes, I saw that when it was on - very good For people who enjoy talking about/looking at records, I can recommend the Word In Your Ear series of video podcasts from Mark Ellen and David Hepworth from The Word magazine - or The Old Grey Whistle Test, for people of a certain age. Each week they talk to someone related to the music business and because they’ve been filmed during the lockdown, you get to see some of their record collection. Highlights for me have been Danny Kelly, Danny Baker, Steve Lamacq, Paul Du Noyer and Zoë Howe, who talks about how Minder has been helping her through the pandemic. www.youtube.com/user/TheWordMagazine
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Post by plasticpenguin on Jul 3, 2020 12:55:48 GMT
Couldn't vote - where's the cassette option? A design classic. Good quality cassette decks are very good. Problem came with the music cassette itself. If my parents couldn't find me they used to follow the tangled celluloid around the house . Brands such as Nakamichi, Yamaha, Hitachi, Sony... all produced top notch decks for their respective price bracket(s).
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Post by plasticpenguin on Jul 4, 2020 10:38:21 GMT
Going back to the original subject. Yes, vinyl is still my 'go to' format, however, CDs and streaming has its merits, as does radio.
My current system I have vinyl, CD player, FM tuner and Freeview tuner via the TV. They all produce very good quality sound playback...
They all have their pros and cons, and it boils down to the recording. I have some remastered CDs that sound great, while others are over compressed and sound mechanical. Likewise with vinyl. From my collection the best SQ is from the 1970s, while some of the more recent remastered vinyl sounds way off piste.
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Post by daz on Jul 4, 2020 11:40:20 GMT
Going back to the original subject. Yes, vinyl is still my 'go to' format, however, CDs and streaming has its merits, as does radio. My current system I have vinyl, CD player, FM tuner and Freeview tuner via the TV. They all produce very good quality sound playback... They all have their pros and cons, and it boils down to the recording. I have some remastered CDs that sound great, while others are over compressed and sound mechanical. Likewise with vinyl. From my collection the best SQ is from the 1970s, while some of the more recent remastered vinyl sounds way off piste. Whilst listening to my album collection recently, the majority on CD, the quality of the recording on some of the CDs is real hit and miss. Some albums have to be played and near full volume to be heard as the sound quality is so poor, whilst others sound superb. Even replacing some CDs with remastered ones, the sound quality doesn't always improve much.
I think some early CDs was just some guy recording them off MW radio the quality is so poor.
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Post by plasticpenguin on Jul 5, 2020 20:45:20 GMT
Going back to the original subject. Yes, vinyl is still my 'go to' format, however, CDs and streaming has its merits, as does radio. My current system I have vinyl, CD player, FM tuner and Freeview tuner via the TV. They all produce very good quality sound playback... They all have their pros and cons, and it boils down to the recording. I have some remastered CDs that sound great, while others are over compressed and sound mechanical. Likewise with vinyl. From my collection the best SQ is from the 1970s, while some of the more recent remastered vinyl sounds way off piste. Whilst listening to my album collection recently, the majority on CD, the quality of the recording on some of the CDs is real hit and miss. Some albums have to be played and near full volume to be heard as the sound quality is so poor, whilst others sound superb. Even replacing some CDs with remastered ones, the sound quality doesn't always improve much.
I think some early CDs was just some guy recording them off MW radio the quality is so poor.
Agreed. Ultimately, though, regardless of the recording the music is the most important IMO.
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Post by fordcapri on Jul 10, 2020 16:24:19 GMT
Impossible to say. CD is great because the sound quality is (usually) superb and you can get up to 80 minutes of music per disc... meaning you can sit down and listen, uninterrupted, for longer! In theory, anyway! And they are hard, although not impossible, to damage. Vinyl has a great deal of nostalgia and sentimentality attached and, let's face it, the best songs/albums of all time were released for the first time on vinyl. And this will never change. It's also aesthetically more pleasing than a CD and the craze for coloured vinyl has produced some really nice looking discs. And the gatefold sleeve is usually something to behold! The downside is that each side of an LP is usually 20 mins max, so you have to get up out of your chair to turn it over almost as soon as you've got yourself comfy! Also, let it be said, they are easy to damage or scratch. Having said that, a pristine piece of vinyl on a good system sounds incredible! Not exactly Hi-Fi I know - Lo-Fi would be a more accurate description! - but good enough for the conservatory. And don't ask me why I stuck a piece of masking tape on the tone arm!
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Post by Arch Stanton on Jul 11, 2020 14:12:46 GMT
Impossible to say. CD is great because the sound quality is (usually) superb and you can get up to 80 minutes of music per disc... meaning you can sit down and listen, uninterrupted, for longer! In theory, anyway! And they are hard, although not impossible, to damage. Vinyl has a great deal of nostalgia and sentimentality attached and, let's face it, the best songs/albums of all time were released for the first time on vinyl. And this will never change. It's also aesthetically more pleasing than a CD and the craze for coloured vinyl has produced some really nice looking discs. And the gatefold sleeve is usually something to behold! The downside is that each side of an LP is usually 20 mins max, so you have to get up out of your chair to turn it over almost as soon as you've got yourself comfy! Also, let it be said, they are easy to damage or scratch. Having said that, a pristine piece of vinyl on a good system sounds incredible! Not exactly Hi-Fi I know - Lo-Fi would be a more accurate description! - but good enough for the conservatory. And don't ask me why I stuck a piece of masking tape on the tone arm! How old is that record player Ford? It looks about 1940s.
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Post by fordcapri on Jul 11, 2020 15:03:37 GMT
...nah... not that old.
It's new. I bought the smallest and cheapest one I could, because I wanted something for the conservatory and there's virtually no free space in there. It actually sounds OK, albeit a bit tinny; but if I want to play records out there, then it's pretty much that or nothing. The main hi-fi is inaccessible at the moment and is in pieces anyway. It'll do until I can afford to refurbish and sound proof the East Wing and buy a mile and a half of high quality speaker cable. And hire someone to turn the records over for me.
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Post by chrisclark1977 on Jul 14, 2020 7:53:34 GMT
CD's are more convenient in terms of size.
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Post by jno on Jul 15, 2020 4:56:00 GMT
...nah... not that old. It's new. I bought the smallest and cheapest one I could, because I wanted something for the conservatory and there's virtually no free space in there. It actually sounds OK, albeit a bit tinny; but if I want to play records out there, then it's pretty much that or nothing. The main hi-fi is inaccessible at the moment and is in pieces anyway. It'll do until I can afford to refurbish and sound proof the East Wing and buy a mile and a half of high quality speaker cable. And hire someone to turn the records over for me. I've got one of them, they do the job, which is all ye want. I was thinking of sticking it in my bar, solely for cult factor ... and for listening to Geoff Love and Shadows 20 Golden Greats while playing a bit of darts.
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Post by fordcapri on Jul 16, 2020 12:32:56 GMT
Bought this off ebay. Just arrived. Only cost £17.99, which is nothing compared to what some of them have been going for lately. Sounds good and takes me back to the good old days. Or rather... back to the future!
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Post by jno on Jul 16, 2020 15:56:16 GMT
Love it fc!
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Post by plasticpenguin on Jul 17, 2020 5:38:41 GMT
Bought this off ebay. Just arrived. Only cost £17.99, which is nothing compared to what some of them have been going for lately. Sounds good and takes me back to the good old days. Or rather... back to the future! very retro looking. My kinda thing. What does sound good are old radiograms. We used to have a GEC as a youngster, and the bass weight for a mono version was impressive.
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Post by plasticpenguin on Jul 17, 2020 5:45:33 GMT
This is my turntable -- it is just a turntable. The amp and speakers are separate. It has retro aesthetics with the latest in turntable technology.
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Post by billyfarmer on May 7, 2021 20:50:34 GMT
Difficult choice, because I very much like CD's and Vinyl, I have got lots of CD's, LP's, Singles & EP's, I will have a good think. I used to buy LP's (Box Sets) and a lot of CD Sets, from Reader's Digest, now and again, I buy LP's, Singles or EP's, on eBay, yesterday (through the post), I received a Doris Day EP, and today I received 2 Los Lobos Singles - La Bamba / Charlena & Come On, Let's Go / Ooh! My Head. I have got a Steepletone 1960's style Record Player (which can play LP's, EP's 45 & 78 Vinyl Singles, and also MP3's), just like the one, you can see below.
I have still got a Jukebox (which can play CD's), which I bought from Past Times.
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Post by plasticpenguin on May 10, 2021 8:07:09 GMT
Difficult choice, because I very much like CD's and Vinyl, I have got lots of CD's, LP's, Singles & EP's, I will have a good think. I used to buy LP's (Box Sets) and a lot of CD Sets, from Reader's Digest, now and again, I buy LP's, Singles or EP's, on eBay, yesterday (through the post), I received a Doris Day EP, and today I received 2 Los Lobos Singles - La Bamba / Charlena & Come On, Let's Go / Ooh! My Head. I have got a Steepletone 1960's style Record Player (which can play LP's, EP's 45 & 78 Vinyl Singles, and also MP3's), just like the one, you can see below.
I have still got a Jukebox (which can play CD's), which I bought from Past Times. Some modern turntables have a USB to convert vinyl to digital. There's a good choice here, although no idea what they sound like. www.whathifi.com/best-buys/best-usb-turntables-budget-to-premium-vinyl-spinners
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Post by mybodyguard on May 11, 2021 2:27:50 GMT
I recently upgraded my stereo components. Long overdue. For I don't know how many years, I was using a DVD player as my CD player. I got a new CD player, amplifier, speakers, speaker cables, and interconnect cables for the CD player. The only thing I didn't upgrade is my turntable. I actually have two and they both work fine. I put my old receiver, dvd player, and speakers with my second turntable, so I now have full stereo systems on two levels of the house!
I'm not sure which of the new pieces made the biggest difference, but all these together has created a sound quality I never got before from CDs. Albums I've played over and over again over the years sound different and better. I hear instrumentation and a quality that is just superb. The best way I can describe it is the vocals, instruments, and melodies all seem more spaced out with room to breathe. Not as compressed and scrunched together as before. The upgrade was worth every penny. I actually got the interconnect cables from the UK.
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Post by chopper on May 11, 2021 20:27:25 GMT
I am actually combining the two, along with downloads. I made a pact that I wouldn’t buy anymore CD’s from the start of this year, due to the low value of them, and so far - I haven’t despite one of my cars having a 6 CD changer, along with Bluetooth audio and DAB radio, I still think they take some beating for sound quality and versatility. I still use a hi fi at home, and to not have CD’s would render that quality Technics system pointless. I bought a new record player a few years ago and keep that in a different room. I buy occasional vinyl, partly for the novelty factor and combine with listening to my older purchased vinyl for a change. I listen to so much radio, that I wonder why I buy music though! I also buy a lot of music through I tunes, especially one off tracks, but also find albums good value, and am buying ever more on I tunes now, being able to play it through Bluetooth in the cars and on my Sonos in the house. Music has always been my main passion, over reading , TV and film and shows no sign of that changing.
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Post by mybodyguard on Jun 20, 2021 15:28:36 GMT
I think the best way to buy music now is on vinyl, and make sure you get a digital version with it. Either by download code inside the package, or with Amazon, you usually get a digital copy with most vinyl bought through them. This way, I get the vinyl that holds it's value well, and a digital file I can send to my phone and then play while driving. The one thing to watch out for with buying older albums on vinyl is many are being sourced from digital files. They won't sound much better than a CD. Make sure you get analog pressings or you lose the benefit of vinyl. Although, if you have no version of something, the larger album cover with big liner notes is better than a CD, but can be hard to justify for paying the extra money over a digital file.
What is very annoying now are all the limited edition and special color vinyl. They've turned it into a collecting frenzy. It's going into territory like when trading cards started inserting chase cards, and action figures started with chase figures and limited editions. It's sadly becoming more about making money for these distributors, over putting out quality music for listeners.
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Post by BMW on Jun 21, 2021 17:42:31 GMT
Bought this off ebay. Just arrived. Only cost £17.99, which is nothing compared to what some of them have been going for lately. Sounds good and takes me back to the good old days. Or rather... back to the future! Isn’t that one of those Chippendale record players Arthur tried to sell to Muriel Standon? 😆😆😆
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Post by harryshand on Jan 14, 2022 22:48:18 GMT
I was a very early adopter of CDs in the mid 80s and would never go back to vinyl. Too many scratches, jumps and to replace my CD collection with reissued vinyl would require a remortgage.
I probably listen to music in the car these days (when Jim White is on Talksport) and the CD option is still available as well.
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