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Post by McCann on Jan 10, 2019 13:08:02 GMT
In this Arthur gives Stan 8 fivers - £40. Dave gives him £45 for his $100 note. So Arthur ripped Stan off for about £5 - £20 today. Or in banking, the technical term for Arthur's walk to the bar is the bid ask spread
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Post by yoyopickles on Jan 29, 2019 20:33:53 GMT
I find exchange rates confusing and am not very good at maths, but I did some (not very fascinating) research about the exchange rate bits in this episode. In 1979 the £1 was worth from $2-$2.30. Dave says the rate is more than £2 £1 is about £5 today. In this Arthur gives Stan 8 fivers - £40. Dave gives him £45 for his $100 note. So Arthur ripped Stan off for about £5 - £20 today. £1 in 1979 is £5.02 in today's money, I looked it up on an inflation website, so £1 in 1979 would be around the £5.10 mark now, so stan was short changed by over £25 in Todays money
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Post by pr1 on Nov 11, 2019 2:16:37 GMT
Watched this again tonight and still enjoy it a great deal.
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Post by jno on Nov 11, 2019 4:34:35 GMT
Watched this again tonight and still enjoy it a great deal. It only gets better with time, and light ale.
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Post by logie on Jan 2, 2020 12:42:38 GMT
For me, easily the best episode in S1, and pleased to see a lot of youse are in accordance. Best line from SH :
(proudly) "I've got a not guilty for manslaughter"
Terry - "Well you probably never done it" SH - "Aye, but they don't know that"
Classic!
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Post by barkerland on Jan 5, 2020 18:34:27 GMT
Just finished watching this episode for what must be the 12th time. Minder repeats beat weekend (or weekday for that matter) tv hands down.
One of my fav lines....Arthur "what airline was he on?" Harry "yin o they American ones" Arthur " What, Pan am?. Harry "no, twaa" Terry "T.W.A you mean!!!"
Classic!!.
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Post by wayne2467 on Jan 5, 2020 18:56:21 GMT
One of my favourite episodes - another one where if I haven’t seen Minder for a while il be picking this out the list
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Post by barrythebook on Jan 5, 2020 19:04:12 GMT
One of my fav lines....Arthur "what airline was he on?" Harry "yin o they American ones" Arthur " What, Pan am?. Harry "no, twaa" Terry "T.W.A you mean!!!" Classic!!. Actually it wouldn't be that far out of character if Arthur made this comment. It wouldn't be the only time that he'd muddled his words or mispronounced what he meant to say.
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Post by McCann on Jan 5, 2020 20:39:48 GMT
Series 1 Arthur was a much more guarded figure, he wanted to appear worldly and respected, so mispronouncing airlines or foreign names would be to drop your guard in early Minder.
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Post by spacecadet on Jan 27, 2020 14:57:17 GMT
TV Times article from Nov 10th 1979 issue when the 3rd episode aired. It states that they worked together for 24 weeks for the first series.
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Post by spacecadet on Jan 27, 2020 14:57:51 GMT
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Post by Twin2 on Jan 27, 2020 15:39:27 GMT
TV Times article from Nov 10th 1979 issue when the 3rd episode aired. It states that they worked together for 24 weeks for the first series. Very interesting read, thank you for posting
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Post by steve74 on May 18, 2020 22:26:06 GMT
A definite contender for the best series 1 episode. Maybe even one of the best episodes of Minder's entire run. So much to enjoy here not least Phil McCall's brilliant turn as Scotch Harry. Minder created some memorable characters and Scotch Harry was one of them. The opening scene in the Winchester is classic Minder, leading to the introduction of Harry in his squalid bedsit. The plot is simple enough but works a treat. There is not one wasted scene. The villains are genuine bad guys and there is something very satisfying when Terry gives Eric a beating. Interesting to see Rycott as a not so straight copper. Minder at it's best is when the drama, humour, story, dialogue and characters blend just right to make it one of the best TV shows around and this episode is a prime example of that. It's the bizzo. 5 out of 5.
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Post by barrythebook on May 19, 2020 19:33:47 GMT
A definite contender for the best series 1 episode. Maybe even one of the best episodes of Minder's entire run. So much to enjoy here not least Phil McCall's brilliant turn as Scotch Harry. Minder created some memorable characters and Scotch Harry was one of them. The opening scene in the Winchester is classic Minder, leading to the introduction of Harry in his squalid bedsit. The plot is simple enough but works a treat. There is not one wasted scene. The villains are genuine bad guys and there is something very satisfying when Terry gives Eric a beating. Interesting to see Rycott as a not so straight copper. Minder at it's best is when the drama, humour, story, dialogue and characters blend just right to make it one of the best TV shows around and this episode is a prime example of that. It's the bizzo. 5 out of 5. Good review steve and I agree with you - one of the best episodes. So many great scenes and just the right blend of comedy and drama.
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Post by barrythebook on May 19, 2020 19:43:06 GMT
£1 in 1979 is £5.02 in today's money, I looked it up on an inflation website, so £1 in 1979 would be around the £5.10 mark now, so stan was short changed by over £25 in Todays money I didn't realise a fiver in 1979 would be worth £25 today but it does make sense of the fact that Arthur says to Dave, "Give me forty and five and you and your good lady have a drink. And a large one for me. Oh and a light ale an' all." Dave could have served the drinks and still had the best part of a tenner (in todays prices) in his pocket.
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Post by harryshand on Jun 2, 2020 14:01:43 GMT
3rd and final one of this afternoon's Minderfest - very good 8/10. Scotch Harry another great character.
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Post by coyote on Jul 8, 2020 15:44:37 GMT
Today's ITV4 offering - seen it many times over the years and it's really excellent. Arthur is better spoken, less stupid and as others have said seems more "respectable" in these early ones. Always good to see the bad guys getting a spanking too, especially when they think they're something. It's clear Ronnie Rycott is bent as an eight quid note in this episode. And we used to have one of those awful 2-door Marinas when I was little - it was an M reg so very close in age to Ronnie's. Dreadful car even then
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Post by McCann on Jul 8, 2020 16:20:01 GMT
Yeah, that Marina was a ropey looking motor even in 1979. Very old type of seatbelts. Parts of the Marina engineering went back to the Morris Minor launch in 1948
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Post by barrythebook on Jul 13, 2020 19:43:29 GMT
Just noticed today that both Arthur and Rycott do a cunning change of clothes in this one On the Sunday, Rycott goes to Harrys bedsit in a lightish, check jacket and brown trousers ,whilst Arthur leaves the hotel that Terry, Harry and Stan are staying in wearing a beige and brown suit combo. A few scenes later, both are wearing dark coloured businessman suits and spend the rest of the episode in them.
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Post by c79 on Oct 27, 2020 15:21:41 GMT
Another classic episode for all of the above. Scotch Harry is superb, acted brilliantly by Phil McCall. For me he actually surpasses this in Return of the Invicible Man a few years later.... now that was a great episode. The regaular referral to Light Ale seems to be a London thing. I was a teenager in the early 80's and going for a Light Ale was what we did, even though we all drank lager!! Just a phrase, used by my old man before and still used by the boys I know today. And the BTB is right - that is a can of Long Life. Yes, fond memories of light and bitter, light and lager, Ramrod and Special (Young's). In the early 80's we loved to mix beer 'half and half'.
Great episode, captures the times superbly.
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Post by ned on Oct 27, 2020 16:16:44 GMT
"You have jumped straight out of the Scottish Second Division into the European Cup"
Am I right in thinking that Peter Childs hadn't learned to drive when this was made?
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Post by westminster on Oct 27, 2020 17:05:07 GMT
Just re-watched this episode this afternoon and enjoyed it greatly. Good plot, plenty of banter in the Winchester, some seedy sets, cracking one liners, and Terry in combat at the end. What's not to like? Plus, as others have pointed out, a really sparkling performance by Phil McCall as Scotch Harry.
The Scotch Harry character reminds me how strongly Scottish characters, in particular, Glaswegians, featured on TV back in the day. Usually, stereotyped as hardman, drinker or gangster, you always got Scots, particularly in series set in and around the underworld - things like Budgie, the Sweeney and, of course, Minder. It's something you don't seem to see so much in more modern TV.
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Post by joshmel on Oct 27, 2020 17:31:26 GMT
Just re-watched this episode this afternoon and enjoyed it greatly. Good plot, plenty of banter in the Winchester, some seedy sets, cracking one liners, and Terry in combat at the end. What's not to like? Plus, as others have pointed out, a really sparkling performance by Phil McCall as Scotch Harry. The Scotch Harry character reminds me how strongly Scottish characters, in particular, Glaswegians, featured on TV back in the day. Usually, stereotyped as hardman, drinker or gangster, you always got Scots, particularly in series set in and around the underworld - things like Budgie, the Sweeney and, of course, Minder. It's something you don't seem to see so much in more modern TV. I agree the Scottish characters always give value for money, they can give a straight performance but somewhere you still believe they have a comic undertone. Probably a good reason Scottish actors appeared on numerous episodes they can do both.
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Post by swainy on Oct 27, 2020 17:47:53 GMT
"You have jumped straight out of the Scottish Second Division into the European Cup" Am I right in thinking that Peter Childs hadn't learned to drive when this was made? I’ve always thought that the way Peter Childs parked up outside Scotch Harry’s abode looked a bit suspect so it wouldn’t surprise me if that was the case.
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Post by ned on Oct 27, 2020 17:59:05 GMT
"You have jumped straight out of the Scottish Second Division into the European Cup" Am I right in thinking that Peter Childs hadn't learned to drive when this was made? I’ve always thought that the way Peter Child’s parked up outside Scotch Harry’s abode looked a bit suspect so it wouldn’t surprise me if that was the case. I've never been sure whether that was down to his driving or that ropey old Marina!
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Post by jno on Oct 29, 2020 3:51:50 GMT
I’ve always thought that the way Peter Childs parked up outside Scotch Harry’s abode looked a bit suspect so it wouldn’t surprise me if that was the case. I've never been sure whether that was down to his driving or that ropey old Marina! It's a good point and something I also noticed. Is it rubbish car, rubbish driving, inability to park or all of the above. The ropey old Marina certainly doesn't help the situation that's for sure.
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Post by ontheslate on Oct 29, 2020 11:19:53 GMT
A great episode and the grottiness of Harry’s room really sums the bedsits and rooms of the time
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Post by ozzy on Oct 29, 2020 16:24:38 GMT
Brilliant Episode.
As has been said plenty times above, a brilliant performance by Phil McCall as the aggressive alcoholic Scotch Harry. So many great bits of Glaswegian patter.
His drunken (faux) flattery of Rycott in the car was hilarious, and a great way of revealing Rycott's past misdemeanours, albeit not specifying what they were.
A brilliant character who really could have been used more often. I preferred his turn in this episode though, in his second appearance he's very eager to please and delighted just to have a chance to maintain/enhance his underworld credentials. He's much more menacing in this episode.
As has been mentioned elsewhere also, Arthur really is a lot more generous in thought and deed in the earlier episodes. If the same storyline had featured in a later series, I'd almost expect Arthur to talk Stan into keeping the money over saving Scotch Harry, and Terry would have had to intervene and force Arthur to do the right thing. Perhaps an indicator of enhanced prosperity in the earlier series where the need to earn didn't outweigh the need to preserve his reputation?
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Post by westminster on Oct 29, 2020 16:54:37 GMT
A great episode and the grottiness of Harry’s room really sums the bedsits and rooms of the time Probably now for sale for a million quid as a West London studio flat
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Post by barrythebook on Oct 29, 2020 22:54:19 GMT
"You have jumped straight out of the Scottish Second Division into the European Cup" Am I right in thinking that Peter Childs hadn't learned to drive when this was made? He didn't seem very confident behind the wheel did he? Definitely not someone that you'd call a smooth driver.
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