I have seen George Cole in lots of things and was lucky enough to catch him live on stage a few years back but I must confess to have never seen any of the St Trinians films!
I have seen lots of clips of Flash Harry though and based on those, the character seems very much like an enthusiastic but much younger Arthur Daley type who hangs about in bushes! Nevertheless I am happy to say the films are on my bucket list!
In Minder's 'The Son Also Rises' I am pretty sure there is a line which goes something like 'He is some sort of Flash Harry type' which was clearly a nod to GC's past.
Is there any particular recommendation for the first one to watch or should I just watch them in production order?
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Daley & McCann are, as good as, holding hands, on the exercise yard, in the scrubs.
'The Great St Trinians Train Robbery' is on ITV next Saturday at 1.40pm. I always remember a scene in it that wouldn't be in a film or TV programme now. Frankie Howerd rubs his face with coal dust and puts on a fake Asian accent to imitate an Asian railway worker.
Post by maninasuitcase on Mar 28, 2015 19:17:19 GMT
I like the bit in the film where Frankie Howerds's character reveals that the planned crime is code named "Operation Toupee". I bet the scriptwriters had a right laugh coming up with that one knowing Frankie Howerd was the star of the movie.
Post by maninasuitcase on Mar 29, 2015 9:56:53 GMT
Flash Harry down at the boozer.
"Operation Toupee" in full swing!
Good old stereotyping example No 1. Frankie Howerd (love the silver streak in his syrup ) is playing an obviously gay hairdresser, so lets dress him in pink!
Good old stereotyping example No. 2. Frankie "all blacked up" to masquerade as an Asian railway worker. Incidentally the actor playing the original Asian was another white actor all blacked up. Where there no Asian actors working in the UK in 1966?
Post by mauricemichaelson on Mar 30, 2015 14:22:21 GMT
There's actually a few more than 3! Beryl Reid, Lionel Jeffries, Thorley Walters, Kenneth Griffith, Peter Jones, Liz Fraser, Larry Martyn, Stratford Johns, and Maureen Lipman all appeared in one incarnation of the show.
The Belles of St Trinians was on ITV3 last Sunday. A police spy (Joyce Grenfell) infiltrates the school while the girls kidnap a racehorse. GC as Flash Harry is involved. Alistair Sim plays the Head Mistress Miss Fritton and her brother. I have just checked the running time on imdb as 91 minutes. With adverts this showing is over in 45 minutes. Story reduced to its bare bones.
I have often thought that George played Arthur as an older version of Flash Harry, i.e the ageing spiv.
Talking of spivs, my mum had an interesting encounter with one in 1947. My mum and her sister had gone up the west end to look for some hard to find post war nylons, and we haggling with a spiv, over the price when he suddenyl shut the suitcase and said "I've just seen a copper, follow me around the corner girls!" My mum and her sister did this. As they were sitting on the tube on the way home they suddenly realised that they actually had the nylons in their hands, and instead of following him around the corner, could have made off in the other direction!
I watched the majority of Belles last night. Not for the first time.
I honestly think Cole's turn as the dodgy dealer 'Flash' Harry probably put him straight into contention for the casting of Arthur. I reckon the St Trinians films were quite a big British franchise and that FH was probably Cole's most iconic role. And if you were sat there in the latter 70s thinking of who to cast as Arthur, Flash Harry would've come straight to mind.
The fifth and rarely seen, st Trinian's movie, wild cats of st Trinian's made in 1980, has a different actor, Joe melia playing flash Harry, who does not play him very spiv like at all.
In fact, he is in a yellow t-shirt, white cap and has a satchel, very un spiv like! He even runs a Chinese takeaway, dressed up like a China man in one scene!
I read George Cole could not play him as he was filming the first series of minder, how true this is I don't know...
I have Wildcats on disc. Unofficial like, taken for posterity from VHS. It's pretty rubbish in comparison to many of the others but is improved no end by having some saucy but mild nudity and a number of British faces. Sheila Hancock plays the governess iirc.
You're right. George Cole is sadly missed as Flash. The other bloke looks like a dodgy milkman or something.
Edit: on checking Amazon it appears this has now been released as a DVD R. So not so difficult to come by these days.
I can remember seeing the St Trinian's films, in the 1980s, when BBC2, showed a season of the films (in the evenings, about 6.00pm), and I can remember thinking at the time, how poor The Wildcats of St Trinian's, was, compared to the earlier films.
I saw many film seasons, on BBC2, in the 1980s, most of the films, I saw, I have now got on DVD, with a few exceptions.
Flash Harry is pretty well classic George Cole. The original St Trinians films were very popular and GC's role stands out. I would guess this role more than any other established him in the popular imagination in Britain.
Im a fan of the classic St Trinians films not only because of the older beautiful sixth form girls in their gymslips, black nylons and suspenders but also for George Cole's brilliant Flash Harry. As mentioned before he is the prototype Arthur Daley and the bit at the end of Gunfight at the OK laundrette where he is leaning against a lamp post when Terry comes out the nick is very Flash Harry. I have the classic St Trinians DVD boxset which are a joy to watch.
I have Wildcats of St Trinians on a DVD I bought years ago on eBay and even though its not as good as the older films it still has the sexy older sixth form girls in gymslips, nylons and suspenders and is a lot better than the garbage Rupert Everett St Trinians films which were cr*p.
I started watching the first movie, I have to say, it really hits me that this is the George Cole in his late 20s going on his 30s, an actor born and raised in South London giving what he can on screen which amazes me and in a way I relate to it considering I studied in South London. I don't think I'm going to be bored watching the entire film set. Was a steal to buy, now I know it's going to be a thrill to watch and maybe confused to wonder why it was so cheap to obtain.
I have Wildcats of St Trinians on a DVD I bought years ago on eBay and even though its not as good as the older films it is a lot better than the garbage Rupert Everett St Trinians films which were cr*p.
The 2007 St Trinians? I haven't watch those, I was more interested how they filmed the reboot in Ealing studios and myself being around Ealing almost all my life, the females who live and went to high school around there, I barely understand (I'm finding this hard to say, they're mad!), so I'm beginning to wonder why Ealing studios make the cast there extremely comfortable to get that movie made knowing that other people will talk about it. All I could say, good for them!