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Post by ltd on Oct 26, 2018 11:43:36 GMT
the very first episode to feature Michael Povey as Chisholm's sidekick DC Jones. A classic piece of deadpan acting from him in the crematorium scene - there's something about his fixed expression and slouched posture with his leg out in the aisle that makes me laugh. He always excelled at that kind of physical comedy where it didn't seem like he was actually doing much, but just his expression or a gesture would be funny.
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Post by Kelver Leash on Oct 26, 2018 19:11:16 GMT
Blimey! I lived in Putney for years and knew of all the other locations apart from the Lock up!! Even met my wife for the first time in The Coach & Badge on Lacey road which is a stones throw away. This is the pub that Arthur and Terry go in at the start of 'Why Pay Tax?'
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Post by jno on Oct 26, 2018 19:35:09 GMT
Blimey! I lived in Putney for years and knew of all the other locations apart from the Lock up!! Even met my wife for the first time in The Coach & Badge on Lacey road which is a stones throw away. This is the pub that Arthur and Terry go in at the start of 'Why Pay Tax?' Yup, check it out here: www.minder.org/locations/S03E09_WhyPayTax.htm
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Post by Kelver Leash on Oct 26, 2018 20:31:41 GMT
Blimey! I lived in Putney for years and knew of all the other locations apart from the Lock up!! Even met my wife for the first time in The Coach & Badge on Lacey road which is a stones throw away. This is the pub that Arthur and Terry go in at the start of 'Why Pay Tax?' Yup, check it out here: www.minder.org/locations/S03E09_WhyPayTax.htmA ha! Great stuff! Thanks for the link. Interesting to see that the bookies is in the place of Moomba. I used to go in Moomba regularly with Melody Maker writer Roy Hollingworth nearly 20 years ago and Roy sadly died in 2002, bless him
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Post by felixdeburgh on Oct 21, 2019 8:46:01 GMT
I chatted to Derek Fowlds at Elstree the other night and naturally asked him if he had any memories of working on Minder. “Of course I do!” he roared back. He remembered filming at an airport, but couldn’t remember where so I obviously put him straight . He said that he was a keen crossword fan at that time and so on his first day of filming during lunch, he was looking for somewhere quiet to complete it and so, thinking that George and Dennis were out, he went into their caravan only to find that they were actually still there. George Cole shouted at him, in full Arthur Daley mode, “Oi, it’s actors only in ‘ere, now f**k off!” After that, they got on like a house on fire and every day they allowed him in to do his crossword. He said he already knew Dennis as they’d already worked together in - in his words - “a couple of sh1t films” .
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Post by wayne2467 on Oct 21, 2019 14:26:15 GMT
Love this episode- has the actor who plays” Randolph” been in anything else?
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Post by barrythebook on Oct 21, 2019 17:03:23 GMT
Love this episode- has the actor who plays” Randolph” been in anything else? Not that much and most of it pretty obscure stuff. He's still working though. Search Rayner Bourton on IMDB.
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Post by jjmolloy on Oct 21, 2019 21:36:15 GMT
Love this episode- has the actor who plays” Randolph” been in anything else? Agreed, 10/10
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Post by baldarchie on Nov 24, 2019 15:56:51 GMT
I watched this episode again recently (ITV4 edit recorded several months ago), very enjoyable. I noticed an interesting quirk, to do with Terry's visit to the squat where the Suzi Quattro character is living. There is a band rehearsing on the first floor playing a blues-rock jam (the guitarist is standing in the doorway and Terry pauses to 'ave a butchers before going up the stairs to the floor above to the Suzi Q character's room). The music they are 'playing' is re-used moments later as the background music in a scene at the Winchester Club. I know, I need to get out more...
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Post by barrythebook on Nov 24, 2019 20:03:16 GMT
I watched this episode again recently (ITV4 edit recorded several months ago), very enjoyable. I noticed an interesting quirk, to do with Terry's visit to the squat where the Suzi Quattro character is living. There is a band rehearsing on the first floor playing a blues-rock jam (the guitarist is standing in the doorway and Terry pauses to 'ave a butchers before going up the stairs to the floor above to the Suzi Q character's room). The music they are 'playing' is re-used moments later as the background music in a scene at the Winchester Club. I know, I need to get out more... Happens quite often b.a. You'll also find music/tunes used in Minder will turn up in episodes of Sweeney/Professionals etc.
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Post by jno on Nov 24, 2019 20:50:29 GMT
I watched this episode again recently (ITV4 edit recorded several months ago), very enjoyable. I noticed an interesting quirk, to do with Terry's visit to the squat where the Suzi Quattro character is living. There is a band rehearsing on the first floor playing a blues-rock jam (the guitarist is standing in the doorway and Terry pauses to 'ave a butchers before going up the stairs to the floor above to the Suzi Q character's room). The music they are 'playing' is re-used moments later as the background music in a scene at the Winchester Club. I know, I need to get out more... In fairness, I can't recall hearing much rock/blues in the Winchester Club, so this is good spotting.
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Post by logie on Jan 13, 2020 8:25:12 GMT
Decent episode. I hovered over the ratings because, potentially, its up there with the best. A lot of good stuff in it - Arthur minding the corpse and fainting when the dog enters, Harold Innocent as Incapable plays the character perfectly, Chisholm at his cynical best and Jones appearing for the first time, and the always excellent Derek Fowlds superb as the harassed Mr. Midhurst (Meadhurst)
But... the scenes with Terry & Nancy are so cringy, add nothing to the episode, and her character would have been better off left out altogether. Also, Monty Wiseman is one of the most repulsive characters ever comitted to screen, even for the Minder universe. Absolutely vile, would have been better if Terry had had the chance to flatten him.
So, in the end i settled for a 4 rating. Good, but toward the lower end of the 4s epsiodes I'm afraid.
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Post by barrythebook on Jan 13, 2020 20:30:53 GMT
I agree with your comment about Terry and Nancy being cringeworthy. Their relationship didn't really add anything to the episode and I tend to think that Suzi Quattro landed a role to promote herself as an actress rather than add to the storyline, it's almost like she was shoe horned in for the sake of it.
Can't agree with you about Monty though, I quite enjoyed his character.
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Post by pr1 on Mar 8, 2020 22:58:23 GMT
I really like Arthur's line when he first hears Nancy singing and playing, 'Some people have opinions. Other people have taste. I happen to belong to the latter.'
One of the best epsisodes. The ghost scene gets better every time I see it.
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Post by wayne2467 on Apr 11, 2020 21:09:43 GMT
I really like Arthur's line when he first hears Nancy singing and playing, 'Some people have opinions. Other people have taste. I happen to belong to the latter.' One of the best epsisodes. The ghost scene gets better every time I see it. Yeah - I still use that line even now on occasion 😂
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Post by BMW on Jun 11, 2020 13:42:07 GMT
I love Monty Wiseman - he is such a crook! I was going to use him as my username. I like the bit where he is in the sauna with Arthur, and Monty says "Arthur, the last time I saw a pair of legs like that they had a message tied to them". He complements that with ‘Look at you Arthur, you’re an affront to nature. A bottle in some laboratory you’ll end up in!’ love the way the Jewish dialect has the sentence back to front, there must be a word for it but I’m not an expert! Very funny though.
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 12, 2020 21:07:26 GMT
He complements that with ‘Look at you Arthur, you’re an affront to nature. A bottle in some laboratory you’ll end up in!’ love the way the Jewish dialect has the sentence back to front, there must be a word for it but I’m not an expert! Very funny though. Happens several times throughout the episode, somebody did their homework.
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Post by c79 on Nov 26, 2020 16:27:56 GMT
I agree with your comment about Terry and Nancy being cringeworthy. Their relationship didn't really add anything to the episode and I tend to think that Suzi Quattro landed a role to promote herself as an actress rather than add to the storyline, it's almost like she was shoe horned in for the sake of it. Can't agree with you about Monty though, I quite enjoyed his character. I quite agree Barry. As much as I used to worship Suzi in the mid 70s, the character really doesn't do anything for this otherwise good episode. And as a Basil Brush fan, "Mr Derek" plays his part nicely here. RIP Derek Fowlds.
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Post by VAT on Mar 26, 2021 9:41:08 GMT
Just got the script for this fave episode..not looked in detail yet, but interesting its listed as Minder S3 Episode 4 and dated 4 February 1981 (yet shown on TV as episode 1)...also have a guess what Suzi Quattro's band is called
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Post by jno on Mar 26, 2021 15:08:39 GMT
...also have a guess what Suzi Quattro's band is called Devil Gate Drivers? Or is it something more creative like "The Band"?
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Post by VAT on Mar 27, 2021 9:40:12 GMT
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Post by jno on Mar 27, 2021 10:32:14 GMT
Good guesses jno...but tunrs out it was called "GROPE" Thanks for the pics VAT, great stuff and as always, appreciated.
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Post by VAT on Mar 28, 2021 11:35:51 GMT
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Post by bigaitch on Apr 2, 2021 18:44:35 GMT
Very good episode but I agree that Suzi Quatros character adds nothing to the storyline - although she adds plenty to the aesthetics....
I also agree that Wiseman was an unpleasant character and it would have been good to see him and Randolph get some summary justice from Terry.
The moment with the dog inadvertently tampering with the coffin is outstanding , one of the best Minder moments ever.
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Post by barrythebook on Apr 3, 2021 19:31:53 GMT
From the script - interesting that Incapables bedsit was due to have a 'homage' to his more glorious past... And this little scene/quote by Incapable clearly wasn't filmed/broadcast in the end...little nuggets form Minders past.. I'm wondering if the reason these scenes weren't included is because it would have made the viewer feel sorry for incapable? He obviously feels sorry for himself in the episode but I think if these scenes had been included, it may have gone a little too far.
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Post by wayne2467 on Apr 3, 2021 21:54:25 GMT
Love the bit where Chisholm turns up as the coffins on its way out of Terry’s drum
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Post by barrythebook on Apr 27, 2021 21:18:37 GMT
Watched this again today and realised what a lovely performance Harold Innocent put in as 'incapable'.
The eloquent speech he gives, after accidently bumping into a woman on the street when he comes out of the cornershop (a brilliant location btw which you wont find nowadays), can be taken as intelligent, sarcastic, funny, pathetic, pitiful or a little part of each all put together - it's a lovely little scene, whatever.
Then waving 'goodbye' to the empty bottle he's thrown off a bridge into The Thames(?) can also be taken as sad, funny, pitiful etc.
I was a little surprised to see him living in the bedsit. He was obviously fairly well bred, from a good background and education so I was thinking that even though he'd had his problems which led to a life of alcohol abuse, sleeping rough and losing his career that he'd be part of a very well to do, wealthy family who'd at least provide him with a roof over his head at the family home.
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Post by jjmolloy on Apr 27, 2021 21:38:00 GMT
Watched this again today and realised what a lovely performance Harold Innocent put in as 'incapable'. The eloquent speech he gives, after accidently bumping into a woman on the street when he comes out of the cornershop (a brilliant location btw which you wont find nowadays), can be taken as intelligent, sarcastic, funny, pathetic, pitiful or a little part of each all put together - it's a lovely little scene, whatever. Then waving 'goodbye' to the empty bottle he's thrown off a bridge into The Thames(?) can also be taken as sad, funny, pitiful etc. I was a little surprised to see him living in the bedsit. He was obviously fairly well bred, from a good background and education so I was thinking that even though he'd had his problems which led to a life of alcohol abuse, sleeping rough and losing his career that he'd be part of a very well to do, wealthy family who'd at least provide him with a roof over his head at the family home. Those families can often be the most heartless baz.
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Post by barrythebook on Apr 27, 2021 21:46:24 GMT
Watched this again today and realised what a lovely performance Harold Innocent put in as 'incapable'. The eloquent speech he gives, after accidently bumping into a woman on the street when he comes out of the cornershop (a brilliant location btw which you wont find nowadays), can be taken as intelligent, sarcastic, funny, pathetic, pitiful or a little part of each all put together - it's a lovely little scene, whatever. Then waving 'goodbye' to the empty bottle he's thrown off a bridge into The Thames(?) can also be taken as sad, funny, pitiful etc. I was a little surprised to see him living in the bedsit. He was obviously fairly well bred, from a good background and education so I was thinking that even though he'd had his problems which led to a life of alcohol abuse, sleeping rough and losing his career that he'd be part of a very well to do, wealthy family who'd at least provide him with a roof over his head at the family home. Those families can often be the most heartless baz. Yeah, true enough jj. Don't want to be seen to have a wayward family member within the social circles they move in etc. However - these folk like to preach to the 'lower' classes about how we must take care of our own in times of need.
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Post by efc1985 on Apr 30, 2021 16:00:27 GMT
Watched this again, brilliant episode full of comedy moments - remember watching it when first broadcast and finding the dog - who should have been credited- scene with Arthur brilliantly funny. Great lines from GC 'I have read my Denis Wheatley' and 'I've been witness to supernatural phenomenomenom' Harry Fowler brilliant as the odious Monte Wiseman and Randolph a cut above the average adversary, has something about him.
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