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Post by jno on Feb 17, 2015 16:47:25 GMT
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Post by Albert Wendell on Jan 5, 2016 21:59:52 GMT
At the time of first broadcast (1993) the story was very apt as many people were defacing the front of their houses with satellite dishes, as Arthur himself says “they are the hula hoop of the 90’s”. It’s exactly the type of scheme we expect Arthur to get webbed up in and as usual he displays a large amount of confidence in Rays ability to complete tasks that either he nor Arthur know anything about. Something I feel I’ve noticed in the Ray years compared to the Terry years is that Arthur sees Ray as being intelligent and Terry as being somewhat thick (not massively but he doesn’t display as much faith in his ability as he does Rays). Arthur soon realises Ray will need help so he gets Logie on the firm, the character of Logie brings a lot to the enjoyment factor of this episode and without him I don’t think it would fair as well. He’s not all that different from Pete Postlethwaite’s character Jack ‘Oily’ Wragg in ‘Back In Good Old England’. I love how Logie keeps chipping in with uninteresting stories of yesteryear. The delivery of the lines make me smile even though they are not necessarily funny “you point it west for stuff from the states and east for everything else“.
Fingers Rossetti is a fairly nasty character even when he is being nice, Ray helping his two old school friends Isabella & Steve by acting as a go-between with them and Rossetti shows a similarity between Ray and Terry (I’m thinking of the Series 4 episode ‘Windows’ especially).
Looking at the locations pictures on minder.org it’s amazing how much the houses have changed since filming in 1992?. In the episode the close up of the dish on the wrong house shows an 'I' shape that the dish is bolted to I thought this must have been added so as not to damage the brick work but on the ‘now’ location shot you can see the 'I' is present and must be part of the brickwork.
3/5
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Post by daz on May 26, 2016 10:40:19 GMT
Not much to add to the above review by Albert Wendell. A nice paced episode this, help by another turn by the great Pete Postlethwaite as Logie, the Ariel engineer who is afraid of heights. It never ceases to amaze me the amount of incompetent tradesmen Arthur knows.
It all worked out well in the end though.
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Post by pr1 on Nov 20, 2016 21:11:44 GMT
I thought this was far too slow and the part with Arthur and Logie on the roof went on too long. I did like all of Arthur's double talk about competitions and corn flakes packages when the homeowner is yelling at him. Not a bad episode I just thought it dragged.
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Post by yoyopickles on Nov 27, 2016 8:55:32 GMT
At the time of first broadcast (1993) the story was very apt as many people were defacing the front of their houses with satellite dishes, as Arthur himself says “they are the hula hoop of the 90’s”. It’s exactly the type of scheme we expect Arthur to get webbed up in and as usual he displays a large amount of confidence in Rays ability to complete tasks that either he nor Arthur know anything about. Something I feel I’ve noticed in the Ray years compared to the Terry years is that Arthur sees Ray as being intelligent and Terry as being somewhat thick (not massively but he doesn’t display as much faith in his ability as he does Rays). Arthur soon realises Ray will need help so he gets Logie on the firm, the character of Logie brings a lot to the enjoyment factor of this episode and without him I don’t think it would fair as well. He’s not all that different from Pete Postlethwaite’s character Jack ‘Oily’ Wragg in ‘Back In Good Old England’. I love how Logie keeps chipping in with uninteresting stories of yesteryear. The delivery of the lines make me smile even though they are not necessarily funny “you point it west for stuff from the states and east for everything else“. Fingers Rossetti is a fairly nasty character even when he is being nice, Ray helping his two old school friends Isabella & Steve by acting as a go-between with them and Rossetti shows a similarity between Ray and Terry (I’m thinking of the Series 4 episode ‘Windows’ especially). Looking at the locations pictures on minder.org it’s amazing how much the houses have changed since filming in 1992?. In the episode the close up of the dish on the wrong house shows an 'I' shape that the dish is bolted to I thought this must have been added so as not to damage the brick work but on the ‘now’ location shot you can see the 'I' is present and must be part of the brickwork. 3/5 In "life in the fast food lane", Arthur expected Terry to be able to install the car telephones, so I don't quite think Arthur was that less impressed with Terry's skills
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Post by alf on Jun 20, 2017 22:38:40 GMT
Very droll.I could watch these over and over.
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Post by busli on May 24, 2018 17:20:31 GMT
Finished it just now and laughed out loud a lot. Great script and acting.
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Post by thewoodster on Jun 9, 2018 11:00:14 GMT
Agree busli writing and acting at its best.
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Post by rog73 on Jun 14, 2018 7:00:24 GMT
One of my all time favourites this one. Arthur and Logie are a great hapless twosome, and there’s a lot of laughs in this. Fingers Rossetti is a convincing guy not to be messed with. Arthur’s saw-off shotgun is a comedy highlight!
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Post by yoyopickles on Sept 22, 2018 7:09:31 GMT
I recall watching this episode when it was first broadcast and thinking "trust Arthur to get in on this! " at the time there was a bloke in folkestone market who was selling a consignment of BSB squariel dishes and decoders, which could pick up 5 sky Channels, until the signal got switched off at the end of the year
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Post by rog73 on Mar 29, 2019 7:46:27 GMT
Just spotted a continuity mistake watching this again. When Ray is first up the ladder it’s a massive three tier one. Yet when Arthur arrives and Ray picks up the ladder it’s a small two piece that wouldn’t get half way up that wall!
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Post by ned on May 15, 2019 23:44:29 GMT
Although I was unsure about series 9 at the time, I do remember literally crying with laughter at Arthur and Logie's attempts at making signs on the roof.
There's something about 'Yelp Into Ace' and 'Daley Plenty Panic' that goes straight to my funnybone.
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Post by Minderfan84 on Jan 17, 2020 16:20:05 GMT
Although I was unsure about series 9 at the time, I do remember literally crying with laughter at Arthur and Logie's attempts at making signs on the roof. There's something about 'Yelp Into Ace' and 'Daley Plenty Panic' that goes straight to my funnybone. it's quite funny how on edge Arthur is in this episode about Rossetti
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Post by logie on Jan 20, 2020 11:15:12 GMT
The character of 'fingers' Rosetti is another reason this episode shines, brilliantly portrayed by Phillip Locke; a slightly menacing, borderline psychopathic 'businessman' hiding behind a thin veneer of respectability. Love how Arthur keeps thrusting his hands in his pockets whenever Fingers comes near!
This was my episode of choice to watch when i heard GC had passed away. The perfect tribute.
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Post by baz171075 on Jan 21, 2020 17:37:37 GMT
Good episode, again Arthur on the ball, showing Italian football on tv in England a couple of years before Channel 4 picked up Italian Football.
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Post by logie on Jan 22, 2020 9:42:24 GMT
Good episode, again Arthur on the ball, showing Italian football on tv in England a couple of years before Channel 4 picked up Italian Football. Only when Logie pointed the dish in the right direction, otherwise it was from the far-east!
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Post by yoyopickles on Feb 12, 2020 22:02:38 GMT
I remember my uncle Arthur buying an ex rental analouge satellite system from radio rentals in the late 1990s, he was too tight to subscribe to Sky, so could only see the free to air channels, which were mainly the foreign channels, I can remember just before everything went digital,that he only had one German channel, showing badly dubbed episodes of the original star trek and later battlestar galactica 1980!!
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Post by roytro on Jun 15, 2020 19:06:25 GMT
Watched this again today and had forgotten how good it is - definitely one of my favourite episodes.
PP was hilariously brilliant, whilst even though you know the shotgun is going to be sawn-off, and even if you don't it's a fairly obvious guess - but GC's reaction is so funny that you can't help lol-ing.
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Post by logie on Jun 16, 2020 13:24:55 GMT
At the time of first broadcast (1993) the story was very apt as many people were defacing the front of their houses with satellite dishes, as Arthur himself says “they are the hula hoop of the 90’s”. It’s exactly the type of scheme we expect Arthur to get webbed up in and as usual he displays a large amount of confidence in Rays ability to complete tasks that either he nor Arthur know anything about. Something I feel I’ve noticed in the Ray years compared to the Terry years is that Arthur sees Ray as being intelligent and Terry as being somewhat thick (not massively but he doesn’t display as much faith in his ability as he does Rays). Arthur soon realises Ray will need help so he gets Logie on the firm, the character of Logie brings a lot to the enjoyment factor of this episode and without him I don’t think it would fair as well. He’s not all that different from Pete Postlethwaite’s character Jack ‘Oily’ Wragg in ‘Back In Good Old England’. I love how Logie keeps chipping in with uninteresting stories of yesteryear. The delivery of the lines make me smile even though they are not necessarily funny “you point it west for stuff from the states and east for everything else“. Fingers Rossetti is a fairly nasty character even when he is being nice, Ray helping his two old school friends Isabella & Steve by acting as a go-between with them and Rossetti shows a similarity between Ray and Terry (I’m thinking of the Series 4 episode ‘Windows’ especially). Looking at the locations pictures on minder.org it’s amazing how much the houses have changed since filming in 1992?. In the episode the close up of the dish on the wrong house shows an 'I' shape that the dish is bolted to I thought this must have been added so as not to damage the brick work but on the ‘now’ location shot you can see the 'I' is present and must be part of the brickwork. 3/5 In "life in the fast food lane", Arthur expected Terry to be able to install the car telephones, so I don't quite think Arthur was that less impressed with Terry's skills I think the difference being that by the early 90s computer were really beginning to take off in a big way with the affordability factor meaning more and more people were getting them in their homes. My sister is only three years older than me, but 'computer studies' were not on the curriculum when she completed her schooling but by the time I started secondary school they were. Arthur being 'old school' would have naturally been a little wary of such things, while perhaps being conscious of how beneficial they could be to running (the legitimate side of) a business - so to have a young pup like Ray around, who would have been far more au fait with the computerised world would have been a boon. Things like satellite dishes and mobile phones would have come under that umbrella too, whereas Terry (though significantly younger than Ray) would still have been from the 'old world' when it came to such matters. But, at the end of the day, Ray was more intelligent than Terry, surely? Terry would probably have dropped out of school around the age of 14 (before doing his exams, and therefore gaining no qualifications) and gone straight into some sort of manual work to bring the pennies in, before scratching a living on the small-hall boxing circuit, while Ray would have been legally bound to attend school until at least the age of 16 and sit his O Levels at least. I imagine he'd have done well enough to get Maths and English and his French was reasonable too.
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Post by McCann on Jul 3, 2020 15:31:15 GMT
Good episode, again Arthur on the ball, showing Italian football on tv in England a couple of years before Channel 4 picked up Italian Football. I'm sure they got the idea in this episode from the start of Channel 4 showing Football Italia in September 1992. With live matches every Sunday. Remember watching the first game. Lazio vs Sampdoria 2-2. Lazio featuring a lot in the first few years because Gascoigne was there. Around about the time this script was written and filmed.
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Post by bigaitch on May 8, 2021 21:36:54 GMT
I thought this one was okay but no more than that. The character of Logie and his continuing haplessness with him saying about various things that had gone wrong over the years is very funny and he was brilliantly played y the late Pete Postlethwaite. The only other bit I found funny was Arthur and the sawn off.... Otherwise I felt this one was a little flat ....
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Post by jno on May 9, 2021 6:41:44 GMT
I thought this one was okay but no more than that. The character of Logie and his continuing haplessness with him saying about various things that had gone wrong over the years is very funny and he was brilliantly played y the late Pete Postlethwaite. The only other bit I found funny was Arthur and the sawn off.... Otherwise I felt this one was a little flat .... The small cast in this one makes me think it was done on the cheap. I gave this one a good but for me, it's one notch above average.
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Post by pr1 on Jul 12, 2021 2:30:58 GMT
Watched this for the second time and liked it even less. The fifty minutes felt much longer. Not really a bad episode, it just seems to be missing something.
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Post by manta on Aug 9, 2023 19:19:49 GMT
I liked this and it just makes it to Excellent. It's a bit rough around the edges and plain bonkers at times but no matter, I was laughing out loud. The love story intertwined provides some nice glue but of course, it's mainly those dishes, of which others have already spoken. How can we forget Arthur being both gutted he's going to lose one but also fobbing a punter off in that he entered a cornflakes competition? But I think what really makes it is Fingers Rosetti being both deadly in Arthur's eyes but cutting Ray and Arthur (most of the time) an awful lot of slack, with that sawn-off being a master stroke. And of course Pete Postlethwaite turning in a masterful performance - very convincing. And it stayed to the end - I really didn't know where the last frame was going to go and to have Pete stuck on the roof for the duration of the Italian game to come was outstanding.
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Post by simon316 on Oct 12, 2023 17:41:02 GMT
One of the best episodes from the Ray Daley years. Pete Postlewaite was brilliant, playing his part of Logie perfectly. The end story of the Italian football went a tiny bit over my head but this was indeed a defining episode for the Ray Daley years
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