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Post by jno on Feb 17, 2015 16:33:54 GMT
Link to episode on minder.org: www.minder.org/episodeguide/S08E02_ABouquetOfBarbedWine.htm The very first Ray Daley episode to be filmed with the majority of the action taking place at The Harrods Depository in Barnes - with thanks to the great Nick Day himself for this info. It's great to see Dmitri Andreas playing the shop keeper. His lines about Arthur Daley are very witty!
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Post by myinspiration on Aug 28, 2015 17:37:08 GMT
The moment that sticks in my mind, always, is where the wine vendor says "Herne Bay" and Arthur nearly chokes on his glass of vino! I think it's a classic Minder idea to have a supposedly quality wine from Kent!
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Post by jno on Oct 31, 2015 8:19:49 GMT
An article from The Guardian on Thursday Sept 12th 1991 the same day that 'A Bouquet Of Barbed Wine' was first broadcast.
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Post by myinspiration on Oct 31, 2015 8:41:38 GMT
Very interesting - a prophetic article indeed! Amazing to read something from the time, rather than views based on hindsight.
It got me thinking about the 'Ray' years....3 years of success and some great episodes, only a few turkeys. Plenty of funny moments that stick in the mind. I think they pulled the plug at the right time though as it was starting to run out of steam.
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Post by daz on Jan 3, 2016 14:36:08 GMT
2nd episode in and I liked this, had a lot of the gritiness in this episode that made the Terry years so brilliant, probably helped with the location of Herbies warehouse. I think we see a lot more of Dave in the Ray episodes, which is a good thing in my opinion.
I loved the line about milk teeth the dentist used when Ray was trying to chat her up and as usual the cap was doffed to GC for his scenes after Arthur left the dentist after some happy juice.
Frightening to think it is 25 years this year since they first aired, where does the time go...
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Post by pr1 on Sept 25, 2016 20:21:29 GMT
I liked it but found the sequence with Arthur and Ray dealing with the elevator tedious. I felt it went on far too long. The rest of the episode is pretty good.
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Post by I used to think I was a parrot on Sept 26, 2016 21:24:04 GMT
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Post by alf on Jul 24, 2017 22:55:47 GMT
Funny episode.Like the bit where the wine taster says the wine is corked to which Arthur says "of course it is otherwise it would all fall out of the bottles!"
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Post by yoyopickles on Aug 6, 2017 8:08:25 GMT
yes, we do have some very nice vinyards here
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Post by billyfarmer on Aug 14, 2017 18:21:26 GMT
Good episode, which I watched on ITV4, this afternoon, good to see the first appearance of Emma Cunningham (Gloria), I always liked her character, she ended up being frustrated with Ray (because of Arthur).
Also good to see Philip McCough (Herbie Collins), whenever I see Philip McGough, on TV, I always think of the word Arnie (the character played by Philip, in a memorable episode of Only Fools and Horses), Collins, turned out to be crooked, just like Arnie, a memorable line from Collins to Arthur - see the geezer in the Terry Thomas outfit.
Like pr1, I also found the scene's, featuring Arthur and Ray, dealing with the lift, a bit of a drag, the rest of the episode, was well worth watching.
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Post by westldner on Oct 1, 2017 21:00:09 GMT
I would say it does set up what looks like a stage for what appears for the following future episodes in the series, if not of Minder. There's a part of me that says 'I should have seen it coming'. It did turn out great during the end with how the situation panned out at the warehouse.
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Post by Zimbo on Jun 20, 2018 10:49:24 GMT
It's a good episode with a decent story. The Arthur Ray partnership isn't bad considering this was the first one filmed. Nick Day proving to be excellent casting, even if we were bemoaning the loss of Chisholm, etc back in 1991.
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Post by thewoodster on Jun 26, 2018 7:46:32 GMT
A good episode.
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Post by pr1 on Oct 1, 2018 3:49:54 GMT
I hated the sequence with the elevator even more this time. It just stops a pretty good episode in its tracks.
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Post by jno on Nov 1, 2018 8:34:51 GMT
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Post by jno on Nov 1, 2018 8:43:07 GMT
I hated the sequence with the elevator even more this time. It just stops a pretty good episode in its tracks. I think that's a fair comment there pr1 and have thought the same myself in the past. There were a probably a couple of possible scenarios for an outcome for this one I'm sure, but the one they went with at least allowed Gary Webster to demonstrate the fact he was young and athletic i.e. the new kid on the block. The scenes where Morley was looking down the lift shaft were of apparently a reshoot and I'd love to know who his predecessor was.
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Post by jno on May 6, 2020 20:27:39 GMT
Press photo:
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Post by madaboutdeltics on May 16, 2020 8:51:20 GMT
Just started watching these now for the first since broadcasted (the Ray Daley years that is )
And to be honest they are not bad at all, I was just suffering from DW bias and that era of Minder did set a very high mark, unmatched by anything else on TV In my opinion.
Anyhow just noticed a very rare appearance of Dave outside the Winchester, that didn’t happen often ?
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Post by swainy on May 16, 2020 9:51:01 GMT
As Park said in the episode... I thought that sunlight brought you out in a rash Dave?
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Post by jjmolloy on May 16, 2020 15:53:35 GMT
Link to episode on minder.org: www.minder.org/episodeguide/S08E02_ABouquetOfBarbedWine.htm The very first Ray Daley episode to be filmed with the majority of the action taking place at The Harrods Depository in Barnes - with thanks to the great Nick Day himself for this info. It's great to see Dmitri Andreas playing the shop keeper. His lines about Arthur Daley are very witty! For anyone who watches the Cambridge v Oxford boat race every year the Harrods Depository is a familiar landmark on the route, think it's luxury flats now though.
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Post by blanco on May 18, 2020 8:42:06 GMT
Just started watching these now for the first since broadcasted (the Ray Daley years that is ) And to be honest they are not bad at all, I was just suffering from DW bias and that era of Minder did set a very high mark, unmatched by anything else on TV In my opinion. Anyhow just noticed a very rare appearance of Dave outside the Winchester, that didn’t happen often ? Can't remember it happening before Also the amount of members in the club now and the increased chatter Link to episode on minder.org: www.minder.org/episodeguide/S08E02_ABouquetOfBarbedWine.htm The very first Ray Daley episode to be filmed with the majority of the action taking place at The Harrods Depository in Barnes - with thanks to the great Nick Day himself for this info. It's great to see Dmitri Andreas playing the shop keeper. His lines about Arthur Daley are very witty! The Minder locations site is fantastic for then and now pictures. Plus you can hardly see what is going on it's all filmed in near darkness
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Post by gareth on May 18, 2020 10:00:38 GMT
Agreed Blanco
I’ve just watched this episode and thought exactly the same..
I dunno if it’s because it’s a sunny day and the daylight was reflecting on the TV but when Arthur’s suspended in the Warehouse I could hardly see any thing for @10mins.
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Post by swainy on May 18, 2020 12:35:43 GMT
Probably the film prints that ITV4 are using.
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Post by McCann on May 20, 2020 10:21:26 GMT
I've always found those scenes in the lift shaft drag on, and are very darkly lit. This is a distinctly average one for me.
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Post by jno on May 20, 2020 10:31:21 GMT
I've always found those scenes in the lift shaft drag on, and are very darkly lit. This is a distinctly average one for me. I confess, I also voted this one average - interesting, as it was the first GW episode to be filmed so I'd expect it to better. I can't help but watch this and see Morley looking down the shaft and thinking 'Who WAS the actor who played Stuart Felix?' minder.proboards.com/post/5729/threadWhoever it was would have filmed parts of the episode already.
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Post by ramone on Sept 4, 2020 9:40:38 GMT
Watched this yesterday and thought it good rather than excellent mainly, as commented by many, because of the lift section which did go on a tad. I did think the episode had some good comedy lines though, many already commented on previously, to which I’ll add Ray asking Arthur while he is in the dentist chair, “Is it safe?”. The line from Marathon Man and something I have always wanted to say when having my check ups! I’d guess dentists often get that though.
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Post by joshmel on Oct 4, 2020 13:38:08 GMT
It turned in to die hard thought I was watching Bruce Willis in an action movie. Spoilt by the elevator scene. Rest of the episode was good the exchanges between the shop keeper and and the wine tasting scene at the Winchester.
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Post by pr1 on Jan 11, 2021 5:06:19 GMT
Watched this episode again tonight and this time I fast forwarded through the elevator/lift scenes. They still seemed tedious.
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Post by Albert Wendell on Jan 16, 2021 22:19:19 GMT
I also felt the lift scenes could have been cut down as it did go on too long and being an ongoing drama the viewer realises they are not going to be killed or seriously injured so it doesn't have the danger element that would be seen on a film or one off drama that puts the viewer on the edge of their seat.
Some similarities between this and the series 2 episode 'A Nice Little Wine' like the seller giving him a box of decent wine as samples. Arthur even mentions the fact he hasn't dealt in wine for some time and may not have the contacts he once had (could it be the writers were familiar with the series 2 episode and that's why they put the line in).
I liked the way that Parnham (who clearly wasn't keen on Arthur) took him to one side to explain that the wine was corked rather than embarrass him infront of everyone I think he felt sorry for Arthur realising he had been had, it's little things like this that give Minder a true to life feeling, in that even if you don't like a person very much you can still feel sorry for them and be decent towards them.
I wonder why Arthur/Ray's Ford Transit used in this episode was a silverish brown one (doesn't sound like a colour but thats what it looked like). We see Dave arriving in it to collect the wine (after Arthur gives him the keys in the Winchester and tells him to use it) and when Ray sees it drive off through the window at night it looks to be the same one and not the usual pale blue one. Did this van appear in any other series 8 episodes? (I'm not as familiar with series 8 as I am with 9 & 10).
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Post by jno on Jan 17, 2021 5:24:58 GMT
I wonder why Arthur/Ray's Ford Transit used in this episode was a silverish brown one (doesn't sound like a colour but thats what it looked like). We see Dave arriving in it to collect the wine (after Arthur gives him the keys in the Winchester and tells him to use it) and when Ray sees it drive off through the window at night it looks to be the same one and not the usual pale blue one. Did this van appear in any other series 8 episodes? (I'm not as familiar with series 8 as I am with 9 & 10). This was the first to be filmed so logic tells me that's probably the reason the van might be slightly different.
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