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Post by barrythebook on May 1, 2020 18:33:54 GMT
Some rhyming slang mysteries.. When Arthur quotes Solly a price for the safe job he asks for ''cash, no kites'' Also Terry calls the safe a ''Pete'' , anyone any ideas on ''kites'' and ''Pete'' ? Obviously ''kites'' refers to cheques but there must be a rhyming slang for it.. I've heard the term 'kite' used to describe a cheque before but I don't know the derivation of it. Rhyming slang for cheque is 'Gregory' (Peck) I think and this has been used in Minder as well. Again, I don't know the derivation of 'Pete(r)' but the term is used to describe a safe or prison cell several times through the series. In, 'Back in Good Old England', Terry is talking to Arthur about Jack Ragg and says, "He looked after me in the scrubs. If I hadn't shared a Peter with him I would have been in all sorts of trouble,"
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Post by Toecutter on May 1, 2020 21:20:48 GMT
Love the line from Arthur where 'Bomber' first falls off the ladder... 'done your cartridge'
Isn't 'Gregory' for your neck? Heard it in an OFAH episode where Uncle Albert falls on Mike,landlord of the Nags Head
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Post by jjmolloy on May 1, 2020 21:48:40 GMT
Some rhyming slang mysteries.. When Arthur quotes Solly a price for the safe job he asks for ''cash, no kites'' Also Terry calls the safe a ''Pete'' , anyone any ideas on ''kites'' and ''Pete'' ? Obviously ''kites'' refers to cheques but there must be a rhyming slang for it.. I've heard the term 'kite' used to describe a cheque before but I don't know the derivation of it. Rhyming slang for cheque is 'Gregory' (Peck) I think and this has been used in Minder as well. Again, I don't know the derivation of 'Pete(r)' but the term is used to describe a safe or prison cell several times through the series. In, 'Back in Good Old England', Terry is talking to Arthur about Jack Ragg and says, "He looked after me in the scrubs. If I hadn't shared a Peter with him I would have been in all sorts of trouble," Cheers!
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Post by McCann on May 2, 2020 23:15:26 GMT
I always had it down as Peter Pan (can)
Kite must refer to cheque kiting. A scam around bouncing cheques that Jack Regan slipped into the conversation in series 1 episode 'The Placer'
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Post by barrythebook on May 5, 2020 20:55:10 GMT
I always had it down as Peter Pan (can) Possibly
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Post by nationalpelmet on May 27, 2020 9:25:20 GMT
I know I keep on saying it, but what another top episode. Love that bit when Terry says, referring to Arthur, he’s definitely not a worker, a grafter maybe. And Mr Chisholm completely Brahms in the Winchester and having to borrow a fiver off Arthur. I reckon Arthur and Terry would have dined out for months on that one. And bumbling Scotch Harry, doing the bizzo !! Leave it out. 😂
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Post by daz on Dec 28, 2020 16:20:21 GMT
Another Best Of episode on Britbox which I wouldn't argue with, with the returning Scotch Harry star of the show.
Nice to see Arthur doing a good turn for once by giving Harry the £500.
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Post by joshmel on Jan 25, 2021 16:03:57 GMT
Watched this at 2 am this morning on ITV. One of the more comedy episodes it was a good laugh. Chisholm was on top form, Solly was a great addition.
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Post by bigaitch on Feb 19, 2021 23:26:03 GMT
Just watched this episode again for the first time in ages . It hits the spot in every sense....a great episode.
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Post by kettle on Apr 21, 2021 10:17:34 GMT
Did anyone manage to spot the large silver saloon parked behind Arthur s Daimler , in the scene with "Bomber" & the ladder , it looked like an Australian Leyland P76 , which was a very rare sight in Britain Perhaps Colin & Ray were back ! It doesn't look like a Leyland P76; it looks more American?
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Post by kettle on Apr 21, 2021 10:17:57 GMT
The bandaging job on Scotch Harry is hilarious, made even better by the doctor offering his professional opinion for its justification.
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Post by McCann on Apr 21, 2021 18:48:58 GMT
I could see why you'd have it down as a Leyland P76. It's a rare job whatever it is
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Post by 615 on Jun 26, 2021 10:09:43 GMT
Ok thanks.Michael Sarne was in the film The world's end last night as a barman Bit of a late reply, but of course he had a number one hit with Come Outside with Wendy Richard
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Post by BMW on Jun 27, 2021 9:03:58 GMT
I thought the Beasley brothers were a bit early Chas and Dave ! 🤣
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Post by baz171075 on Jun 27, 2021 9:57:49 GMT
I watched this episode twice the other day when it was on tv, such a brilliant episode, I loved every minute of it, especially at the end when the 2 boys are hiding behind the white van at the lock-up and the driver gets in and drives the van away, leaving the boy's totally exposed, and then Jones points out to Chisholm that no crime has been committed,that the only person getting up set by the whole thing is Chisholm and his obsession with nicking Arthur...
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Post by 615 on Jun 27, 2021 11:41:42 GMT
I always liked Jones. I was pleased he didn't just fade away like Mellish, but was actually seen to get promoted. I get that the character changed, but I think that makes it more realistic. People do change when they move up the ladder. By the way when the BBC's snooty radio 4 obits programme 'Last Word' featured Meic Povey they managed to talk all about his Welsh work, writing, acting, producing etc for five minutes without mentioning Minder. I'm sure Meic would have been the first to say that D C Jones was a significant part of his career. Obviously the BBC's vendetta against Minder dating back to the days when I could Be So Good For You wasn't played on radio apart from chart shows was alive and well
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Post by barrythebook on Jun 27, 2021 13:54:32 GMT
Obviously the BBC's vendetta against Minder dating back to the days when I could Be So Good For You wasn't played on radio apart from chart shows was alive and well I wasn't aware of this 615, what was the story behind it?
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Post by 615 on Jun 27, 2021 17:46:13 GMT
They didn't 'ban' records as such. There was a decision made not to play them. It seemed to apply to any ITV theme tune, whereas any BBC programme that had a memorable theme, the closing credits had a mantra that 'this theme is available (usually)on BBC Records available at all good record shops'. It meant that most ITV Themes got little or no airplay until word of mouth translated to sales (Van Der Valk, Auf Weidersehen Pet, Prisoner Cell Block H etc). Minder fell foul of this unofficial policy
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Post by Barrel on Jan 22, 2022 23:50:36 GMT
Magic episode definetely goes in my top 2 of the Terry Years so far ( I have the rest of series 6 to go and probably a quarter of series 1 to 5) Scotch Harry and Chisholm are brilliant in some First Division comedic scenes.The nurses face tryin hard to stifle a smile when Scotch Harry is all bandaged up in the hospital bed and Chisholm is sniffing around, says it all.I probably laughed out loud more for this episode than any other one so far.First at the Beesley Brothers talking about their old ma than Harry blowing himself up,and Scotch and his wife's reunion was the bizzo. Nice of Arthur to sort out Scotch with that wedge at the end.
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Post by martidibergi on Sept 10, 2022 13:10:07 GMT
Always like to see Auf Wiedersehen,pet actors. Are Tim Spall, Kevin Whately and the others going to turn up? We could definitely do with Arfur and Ali Fraser crossing swords in a mash up. Didn't actually rate the episode though, Terry not doing much at all and Arfur not so much as skirting on the edge of the law but blasting through it organising a sort of 'payroll'job.
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Post by steve99 on Sept 10, 2022 17:56:39 GMT
They didn't get the full house unfortunately with AWP actors. Pat Roach, Jimmy Nail, Tim Healy and Gary Holton guested but not the other three. Re Terry not doing much, as time went on this is why Dennis left the series, as he felt he was just contributing a "Yes Arthur" and not having a substantial role in storylines.
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Post by 615 on Sept 10, 2022 22:43:31 GMT
I can understand Kev Whateley not appearing, because Morse wouldn't be far away, and certainly would be running at the same time as the Ray episodes, but I've always been surprised that jobbing actors (not a put down-more an appreciation that they were so universal that they could be expected anywhere) like Tim Spall and Chris Fairbank didn't turn up. Chris did make it to a Professionals episode, but otherwise the AWP team are remarkably light in appearances in the trinity.
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Post by Portland Road on Sept 17, 2022 3:43:59 GMT
The AWP actors generally weren't known prior to AWP - Sweeney/Pros/Minder was slightly earlier than them.
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Post by geoffc on Mar 1, 2024 12:46:45 GMT
I feel Leon Griffiths stood his ground here on the character of Arthur in that he was not as tight fisted with money (as seen in earlier episodes) as he would later be portrayed. Mainly with him giving Scotch Harry the £500 when he didn't have to, but also the Beesley brothers stated they were being paid three grand what Arthur told Solly they'd get, normally Arthur would cream some off the top for himself. Neither of these two gestures would have happened in an Andrew Payne or Tony Hoare script. ---------------- I watched this episode last night . Didn't Arthur say to Solly the 3 grand was just for the "operatives" and he would be charging a "management fee" on top. I can't remember the exact words he used. Either way Arthur was seriously out of pocket - so £500 was generous. Clearly I wasn't paying attention as I missed "kite" as slang until reading this forum ! Google seems to have it as an old Stock Exchange piece of slang . "Flying a kite" is/was a reasonably well known expression for publicising a putative investment scheme or some other dubious plan to judge if there is any interest. With the implication its all a bit risky. In return for your "investment" you would get a promissory note ( an IOU or share certificate perhaps ) . This often turned out to be worthless and could be torn up and thrown to the wind as you might treat a losing betting slip . It would flutter about in the wind as a kite . Hence "kite" as a dud or dodgy cheque. I am not sure I am convinced by this - all sounds a bit tenuous - from kite to dud cheque. Apparently "kite" is also American prison slang for illicit notes passed between prisoners or to and from corrupt guards. I like the Mrs Stuart character - alternately repudiating then allying with husband Scotch Harry dependant where the money is to be had . "He only went out for a drink and didn't come back for 9 years".
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Post by kelotoph on Mar 19, 2024 14:13:07 GMT
Watched this today, possibly for the first time (can't remember seeing it before, anyway) and thought it was really good. Some laugh out loud lines, especially Jones's line about the coyote eyes. Quite apart from the brilliant drunk acting (including the brief shot of the back of the taxi), Chisholm was well made up to look hung over the following morning. As others have said, there wasn't much for Terry to do (apart from remind Chisholm of his alibi). I was trying to guess the ending where Chiholm and Jones were speculating as to the market in body parts, and I thought that someone would bring out a wrapped tailor's dummy from Solly's workshop, but sadly this was not the case!
One interesting thing I have found, looking at the Minder locations on minder.org is that the car wash where Arthur meets the Beesley brothers is now a housing complex called Dorothy Hodgkin House. On looking that place up on Street View, I see that part of the same complex a bit further west is called Daley House!
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Post by jjmolloy on Mar 19, 2024 16:47:17 GMT
Watched this today, possibly for the first time (can't remember seeing it before, anyway) and thought it was really good. Some laugh out loud lines, especially Jones's line about the coyote eyes. Quite apart from the brilliant drunk acting (including the brief shot of the back of the taxi), Chisholm was well made up to look hung over the following morning. As others have said, there wasn't much for Terry to do (apart from remind Chisholm of his alibi). I was trying to guess the ending where Chiholm and Jones were speculating as to the market in body parts, and I thought that someone would bring out a wrapped tailor's dummy from Solly's workshop, but sadly this was not the case! One interesting thing I have found, looking at the Minder locations on minder.org is that the car wash where Arthur meets the Beesley brothers is now a housing complex called Dorothy Hodgkin House. On looking that place up on Street View, I see that part of the same complex a bit further west is called Daley House! Probably in my top 3 favorite episodes, if not the top 1. One where if it's on I'll happily sit again.
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