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Post by daz on Dec 12, 2017 20:43:57 GMT
Maybe I'm in a minority but I liked De'Ath and loved his line describing the car as being "Black as the bible and silent as an angel's fart" I liked it too Root. Most reviewers found it cheap, but being a jock I like cheap.
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Post by felixdeburgh on Dec 12, 2017 21:46:51 GMT
“I need a favour”
“Oh”
“Actually, a double favour”
“Oh, Oh”.
Brilliant!
Christopher Benjamin, who plays the aggrieved customer with the grass growing out of the front wing of his car and who starred in many an ITC and Avengers episode, not to mention Doctor Who, is still with us.
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 7, 2018 8:59:05 GMT
Fine episode. Jimmy Nail was spot on. Also the image that council officials are dodgy and on the make.
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Post by westldner on May 2, 2018 9:52:50 GMT
Great episode... heading to a run down part of town to sort out that bloke who starts fires. The fight scene towards the end was interesting also.
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Deus est regit qui omnia.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2018 12:09:13 GMT
Anyone notice Chisholm's car in this episode? It's a blue Talbot Solara, not the usual Sierra or later Montego. The 1980 launch of the Solara was heavily promoted on TV. I don't think we see this particular car again.
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Post by gra966 on Jun 11, 2018 17:58:48 GMT
I think we saw him with the Talbot , in a few season 4 episodes , very briefly . Looking back on my review of High Drains Pilferer . , I have mentioned it there They must have had to edit out the engine sound , otherwise it would have obliterated the dialogue !!
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Post by daytona355 on Jun 13, 2018 7:25:40 GMT
Council officials on the take...... that’s just a fact of life around here.
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Post by ralph on Sept 30, 2018 14:11:39 GMT
I watched this episode again recently - one of my favourites.
I went onto the Internet Movie Database site to find out more about the actor who played Wally West - the owner of the car lot which gets torched. His name was Antony Scott and his biography says he was born in December 1933 and died in June 1983, age 49. This made me look further as I recalled that the episode was first transmitted in early 1984, not long after he passed on.
Now, this Minder site says that the episode was filmed between August and October 1983. At this time Antony Scott was dead, according to IMDb!
Perhaps he should have received an award for "Best Posthumous Performance"!
Clearly there's an error (or a mons-up as Jack Last would say) somewhere and I apologise if the matter's covered somewhere on the site and I've missed it. Otherwise, does anyone have an answer?
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Post by jno on Oct 1, 2018 7:46:55 GMT
I watched this episode again recently - one of my favourites. I went onto the Internet Movie Database site to find out more about the actor who played Wally West - the owner of the car lot which gets torched. His name was Antony Scott and his biography says he was born in December 1933 and died in June 1983, age 49. This made me look further as I recalled that the episode was first transmitted in early 1984, not long after he passed on. Now, this Minder site says that the episode was filmed between August and October 1983. At this time Antony Scott was dead, according to IMDb! Perhaps he should have received an award for "Best Posthumous Performance"! Clearly there's an error (or a mons-up as Jack Last would say) somewhere and I apologise if the matter's covered somewhere on the site and I've missed it. Otherwise, does anyone have an answer? The answer is already on this thread, go back and read from the beginning or see here: minder.proboards.com/post/34524/threadIMDb has the wrong Antony Scott listed for the episode.
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Post by ralph on Oct 1, 2018 10:40:33 GMT
Thanks jno.
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Post by jno on Oct 1, 2018 19:14:25 GMT
Exclusive to this forum - filming for this started Monday 10th October 1983 with the opening scenes at the car lot (with John Altman cabbying dropping Terry off) filmed first. This episode was originally titled 'Hotchi Witchi'. These opening scenes were filmed on the morning of that date with John Altman in make up at 0745 and on set for 0815. Interesting as you hardly see his face in the opening sequence! Having rewatched the first part and matched it with the script there seems to be several lines left out about Terry's night out minding - he seems to have looked after an Asian gentleman and the lines left out are about a mosque and what is allowed/not allowed about Asians drinking. Also in the caravan at the start, Terry asks Arthur "Ever heard about a Zombie?" to which Arthur replies "Arnie, he's been dead from the neck up for years". Jimmy Nail's first day on set was the day after. A few uncredited boat races in this too... the policeman who finds Terry at the burning car lot is Owen Brenman, who later went on to be Victor Meldrew's neighbour. IMDb here: www.imdb.com/name/nm0003859/ also Billy Tasker as 'Old Man', just right now I am struggling to think where he appears in this one - IMDb here: www.imdb.com/name/nm1205164/ at time of writing this information is not on IMDb though, so if it ends up there we will all know it came from this forum. I was recently asked to investigate the number plates on the funeral cars. The fact one of them says 'BYE 203T' might have been intentional. I see nothing on the paperwork to suggest that is the case. There are notes next to the FORD: BYE 203T to suggest this cost 15,000 GBP and that the other two cars YCU 401L and AWP 633L cost 4500 GBP each. Notes suggest the two Datsun bluebirds cost in total 5080 GBP.
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Post by pr1 on Oct 1, 2018 19:18:05 GMT
What is the meaning or inspiration for the original title 'Hotchi Witchi'?
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Post by jno on Oct 1, 2018 19:23:18 GMT
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Post by barrythebook on Oct 1, 2018 20:28:44 GMT
Good stuff jno . The line about a drink called a Zombie and then Arnie etc. does feature in the episode doesn't it? I'm sure Terry describes what's in it to Arthur.
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Post by jno on Oct 2, 2018 2:50:38 GMT
Good stuff jno . The line about a drink called a Zombie and then Arnie etc. does feature in the episode doesn't it? I'm sure Terry describes what's in it to Arthur. You're right ... in order to get the info out quickly I made the fatal mistake of comparing it to an ITV4 broadcast barrythebook, another reason why folks out there (and on this forum) should NEVER watch Minder on ITV4. I hate to sound like a purist but surely passing comment on this forum about a cut-down/expurgated version which was never intended to be the final version means viewers are missing out on little gems like this. ITV4 viewers need to remember they are not seeing what was intended. Watching edited Minder is like listening to three quarters of your favourite song i.e. daft.
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Post by ralph on Oct 2, 2018 7:31:26 GMT
"The line about a drink called a Zombie and then Arnie etc. does feature in the episode doesn't it? I'm sure Terry describes what's in it to Arthur."
Yes he does, barrythebook. Brandy, dark rum and papaya juice. Terry says the guy downed 16 of them. I've often thought of trying a couple myself, but have never got round to it.
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Post by barrythebook on Oct 2, 2018 19:06:47 GMT
Good stuff jno . The line about a drink called a Zombie and then Arnie etc. does feature in the episode doesn't it? I'm sure Terry describes what's in it to Arthur. You're right ... in order to get the info out quickly I made the fatal mistake of comparing it to an ITV4 broadcast barrythebook, another reason why folks out there (and on this forum) should NEVER watch Minder on ITV4. I hate to sound like a purist but surely passing comment on this forum about a cut-down/expurgated version which was never intended to be the final version means viewers are missing out on little gems like this. ITV4 viewers need to remember they are not seeing what was intended. Watching edited Minder is like listening to three quarters of your favourite song i.e. daft. I agree wholeheartedly jno. Some of the snippets and scenes that are left out may seem unimportant, on their own, to the editors but as part of understanding the whole episode, they can be very important. A first time viewer could easily be left not fully understanding the outcome of an episode because an integral scene has been cut.
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Post by pete on Jan 29, 2019 21:19:54 GMT
I used to think Jimmy Nail was brought in as a big guy because he had already rose to fame in 'Auf Wiedersein, Pet' but when I checked recently the episode was recorded before AWP was 1st shown.
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Post by barrythebook on Jan 29, 2019 21:55:10 GMT
I used to think Jimmy Nail was brought in as a big guy because he had already rose to fame in 'Auf Wiedersein, Pet' but when I checked recently the episode was recorded before AWP was 1st shown. My thoughts too pete. At the time, I didn't realise JN had appeared in anything else. This goes against an article I read in the early 90s though which said that Nails' girlfriend had arranged an audition for the role of Oz purely on the description of the character required suiting JN, not because he could act it out. Nail hadn't had any previous acting roles/experience, he'd worked on building sites which she thought would help. IIrc, he also used to front a rock band whilst wearing a skirt and sporting girls school uniform etc.
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Post by jno on Jan 30, 2019 3:09:27 GMT
I used to think Jimmy Nail was brought in as a big guy because he had already rose to fame in 'Auf Wiedersein, Pet' but when I checked recently the episode was recorded before AWP was 1st shown. I think that is indeed a common misconception pete. You're right, the first Auf Wiedersehen Pet episode 'If I Were a Carpenter' was first broadcast in November 1983 with this Minder episode under the title 'Hoiti Witchi' being filmed as part of the block during September/October 1983. I think it is fair to say by the time this Minder episide was filmed, the first series of 'Auf Wiedersehen Pet' was most likely completed in terms of filming.
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Post by eightiesclassic on Feb 21, 2019 12:08:23 GMT
The Car Lot Baggers. Question - could someone please tell me car Jimmy Nail drives in the above episode, as it's driving me mad. Is it a Jenson C-V8 because it looked similar from the front. That car at the time would've been going through it's 'banger' status, along with dog-eared and unloved Jag Mk2s, Citroen DSs and the like quietly rusting away on street corners or becoming the battered biffabout of junkyard owners and assorted undesirables. Fast-forward a few years, eh..?
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Post by felixdeburgh on Feb 21, 2019 12:47:30 GMT
Very rare cars now for the reasons you state. John Mannering drove a 1965 one in the ITC series The Baron but I don’t remember even seeing that many in the 70’s. You see the odd one parked up at the side of the road in things like The Sweeney but not that many at all.
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Post by eightiesclassic on Feb 21, 2019 14:44:36 GMT
It wasn't built in very large numbers, even by Jensen's standards - about 500 in 4 years. Rare beast then and even rarer now. Indeed, tried a quick Google just now to get an idea of the prices they'd fetch now but couldn't find one for sale!
Apparently there was a 2015 BBC mini-series called London Spy (no, me neither), in which one of the characters drove a CV-8. any pictures or screen grabs, anyone?
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Post by felixdeburgh on Feb 21, 2019 19:34:29 GMT
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Post by yoyopickles on Feb 21, 2019 19:53:20 GMT
It wasn't built in very large numbers, even by Jensen's standards - about 500 in 4 years. Rare beast then and even rarer now. Indeed, tried a quick Google just now to get an idea of the prices they'd fetch now but couldn't find one for sale! Apparently there was a 2015 BBC mini-series called London Spy (no, me neither), in which one of the characters drove a CV-8. any pictures or screen grabs, anyone? I watched this series, but could not remember the title!
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Post by thewoodster on Mar 3, 2019 14:59:08 GMT
They was a nice looking motor in the day,shame they didn’t make more,as there would be more still around.
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Post by chopper on Mar 3, 2019 20:02:49 GMT
Personally, I’m not a fan - I find a lot of old “sports cars” very over rated."..
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Post by ltd on Mar 3, 2019 22:18:07 GMT
The traveller character played by Jimmy Nail accent covered a fair few miles. It's not Irish, It's not English, it's just, well, you know, It's just, pikey. Nail's character is called Nathan Loveridge - the surname is fairly common amongst travelling folk around these parts (the three counties). I have no information as to whether they like "dags" but would think it's a fairly safe bet.
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Post by eightiesclassic on Mar 13, 2019 12:24:54 GMT
Personally, I’m not a fan - I find a lot of old “sports cars” very over rated.".. Not everyone's cup of tea, granted. Mechanically, they are of course not a patch on modern cars - some were downright primitive even for their time. But they have a style and presence about them that cars now just lack. I'm no purist, though. Sympathetic upgrades to brakes, electrics, etc and you have the dream ticket.
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Post by McCann on May 18, 2019 22:01:41 GMT
5/5, a top episode. The dialogue in the caravan/office at the start, and during Wally's scenes are top notch. Some of the best in the entire run of Minder. 'we haven't seen that sort of thing since Hitler gave up house painting' What a line
Jimmy Nail's accent seems to move between Belfast and Geordie. I guess Jimmy felt he could carry off a Northern Ireland accent, but the Geordie slips in there and he can't help it.
Wally describes the De'Ath business as being out in the sticks. Depends what out in the sticks would mean to a Fulham wheeler dealer, but I would have taken it to mean the countryside proper. But then I see on the locations page for this one that the De'Ath business is operating next to the District line. So Wally probably thinks London finished at Hammersmith.
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