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Post by jno on Feb 17, 2015 9:32:17 GMT
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Post by jno on Feb 24, 2015 7:08:59 GMT
Here's an article that featured in The Daily Express on the day this episode was broadcast with a little bit of information on Kika Markham.
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Post by barrythebook on Feb 25, 2015 22:57:22 GMT
That photo doesn't do justice to Miss Markham, a very fine looking woman.
Excellent episode this one.
Some lovely sarcastic one-liners from Arthur and his jealousy at Terry going racing is funny.
Nigel Davenport puts in a good performance as Ray, the aggrieved punter, just the right blend of being an upmarket, nasty piece of work.
For some reason I have always loved the look of Barry the Books apartment. A fashionable (for the era) Bachelor pad that he has built through ill-gotten gains.
Very little violence for an earlier episode, I think it's just the one punch when Terry chins Barry.
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Post by VAT on Mar 18, 2015 19:55:02 GMT
Yes, great episode I like this one a lot...and a great cameo by Roger Brierly as Cyril the Antiques expert  Even though Arthur was 'done' by Ray and Cyril he still makes a few hundred sovs off the fireplace deal |
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Post by daz on Aug 18, 2015 15:15:25 GMT
Another episode I watched today and haven't seen in a very long time.
Great episode, some cracking lines, as usual, and a good performace by Michael Medwin as Barry the Book, a bit different from Don Satchley in Shoestring.
Would anyone know if the nurse that appeared when Terry was getting treated for ths shoulder injury, was Janet Ellis, former Blue Peter presenter and mother to Sophie Ellis Baxter? Thought there was a resemblence, but cannot see any listing in IMDB.
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Post by barrythebook on Aug 20, 2015 19:57:29 GMT
Would anyone know if the nurse that appeared when Terry was getting treated for ths shoulder injury, was Janet Ellis
I don't know if it is Janet Ellis but she was appearing in small roles at this time. She had a small role in a Sweeney episode.
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Post by jno on Jan 28, 2016 14:47:46 GMT
Another little article from the TV TIMES telling us how Kika Markham did a little research for her part. Thanks to dsc for this one.   |
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Post by pr1 on Apr 11, 2016 0:30:42 GMT
Series Three continues to impress and entertain!  Nigel Davenport's Ray is a fine menace despite that hideous suit! Arthur dealing in old fireplaces reminded me of Lovejoy. I enjoyed all his double talk and alleged expertise on the subject. You know Arthur actually believes the nonsense he spouts which is an example of how brilliant George Cole is in the role. Kika Markham is.very attractive and at first she reminded me of the late Elisabeth Sladen. Dolly and Terry's scenes are well done. A highlight for me is Arthur's line, " If we can't trust ourselves who can we trust?" If it were possible Arthur Daley would scam Arthur Daley out of every penny he could! |
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Post by jno on Apr 11, 2016 1:22:25 GMT
Good points there pr1 and I agree, Ray is a very nasty villain. Michael Medwin is on top form in this and let's not forget George Cole & him also appeared together in the film 'The Intruder', discussed on the forum here: minder.proboards.com/thread/1808/george-cole-intruder-1953I love the scene where their eating chips, you can almost taste 'em. |
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Post by barrythebook on Apr 12, 2016 19:43:14 GMT
Brilliant episode!
Ray is a very suave, cool customer but ruthlessly nasty when required.
Arthurs' dealings with Pat, "I'll call you Dermot!" are hilarious and typical Daley business practice - excellent work from Leon Griffiths.
I always like to see a background storyline fit into the main plot which is exactly what happens when Arthur tries flogging the Adam fireplace to Ray.
The scene of barrys flat being valued bit by bit and then stripped bare is very good too, I often wonder whether someones flat was actually emptied out on to the pavement whilst the scenes were filmed and then re-furnished?
Would NickP know about this?
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Post by NickP on Apr 13, 2016 9:52:26 GMT
Brilliant episode! Ray is a very suave, cool customer but ruthlessly nasty when required. Arthurs' dealings with Pat, "I'll call you Dermot!" are hilarious and typical Daley business practice - excellent work from Leon Griffiths. I always like to see a background storyline fit into the main plot which is exactly what happens when Arthur tries flogging the Adam fireplace to Ray. The scene of barrys flat being valued bit by bit and then stripped bare is very good too, I often wonder whether someones flat was actually emptied out on to the pavement whilst the scenes were filmed and then re-furnished? Would NickP know about this? I can't honestly remember, and I've just looked at YouTube and can't find the episode to jog the brain cells. So in reality what would happen; is the Art department would be responsible to dress or indeed "undress" the set. Filming would probably start with the set fully dressed and all scenes with that set up would be shot. If the first scenario was a full day or most of a day when the shooting crew pulled out, the art department would move in and remove what was necessary. Then shooting would restart next time that location was on the schedule. There is a possibility that the scenario I've described could of course be reversed, shoot empty then full it would depend on availability of this and other locations. So the answer to Barry's question is no, not on the pavement, not with England's weather, it would go into trucks and in all probability back to the hire company. Scheduling is part of what the Production Manager would be responsible for, I must say Minder's Production Managers were first class; as they had to be with a ten day turnaround and tight schedules. |
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Post by barrythebook on Apr 13, 2016 21:01:35 GMT
Thanks Nick.
I know what you mean about the weather,trucks would be a far safer bet!
It looks like the flat used was an outside location and actually someones home rather than a studio set, so I presumed the furniture was removed and then replaced once the scenes were filmed.
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Post by NickP on Apr 14, 2016 19:10:27 GMT
Thanks Nick. I know what you mean about the weather,trucks would be a far safer bet! It looks like the flat used was an outside location and actually someones home rather than a studio set, so I presumed the furniture was removed and then replaced once the scenes were filmed. Yes Barry most productions; except the cheap ones, would prefer to remove peoples personal furniture and possessions before the shooting crew got there. Also it was better for the crew because as careful as we would be, heavy equipment, and lights moving around; accidents could happen. I once had a hydraulic hose give out on a Camera Dolly, fluid everywhere, wouldn't be a good look on someones Axminster. For the shooting crew the worst case scenario was for the people who owned the flat or house to still be there while shooting took place, and their furniture etc. was still in the rooms. "Do you have to move that or be careful" Nightmare. Of course hired prop furniture was insured, but if something did happen the hire company knew the industry and coped with it, where as Mr & Mrs Smith would have sentimental values and thoughts which would make valuations difficult. "My gran bought that before the Boar war, it's the last one in the world etc". |
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Post by barrythebook on Apr 14, 2016 21:21:42 GMT
Excellent to have some information from someone that was there.....good stuff |
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Post by gra966 on Dec 1, 2016 6:23:39 GMT
A good episode which is definitely one of the later filmed ones for the third season - the trees are in full leaf & it feels more summery - Arthur is back with the silver Merc - Barry s red 3 Series BMW has a registration date of May 1981 - The fireplace sub plot was brilliant , something you could imagine Del Boy or Lovejoy involved in - The Winning Post pub will still be familiar to those in the traffic queue into London & Twickenham - In the first opening scene where Terry crosses the road to the betting shop , a yellow Daf 44 drives past - when did you last see one of those ? almost a rarity in 1981 ! |
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Post by Zimbo on Jan 11, 2017 0:07:59 GMT
Another good, if a little sedate episode. Excellent guest appearance from Nigel Davenport, Michael Medwin and Kika Markham, looking very lovely. Brief appearance from Ronny Cush, who played PC Lyttleton in series 2 of The Bill and seems to have quit acting after that. Edit. This is what he did later... ronnycush.wixsite.com/ronnycush/about |
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Post by pr1 on Sept 24, 2017 20:07:20 GMT
A definite highlight of Series Three and just as good the second time. Molly is highly likable, Ray is suitably menacing and Barry is a total slug. Arthur is in good form throughout with his dealings in antique fireplaces. I like the way Terry defends Arthur to Molly. He knows what Arthur is but he's a mate and deserving of his loyalty. It's too bad things don't work out better for Terry in this episode.
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 20, 2018 19:08:53 GMT
I agree pr1, Arthur is on top form in this.
As for the valuation of the flat, and then stripped was a great storyline.
Wasn’t aware of the Janet Ellis appearance, but will stick it on soon and see her for myself..lol
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Post by felixdeburgh on Mar 1, 2018 13:57:37 GMT
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Post by gustav on Jul 12, 2018 19:17:18 GMT
This is an excellent episode, funny and well written. Some great dialogue. Just voted for it as excellent. I noticed a blooper I had not seen before, apologies if it is well known. But when Barry goes round to Dolly's place a member of the crew can be seen through one of the window panels by the front door before he jumps out of shot.
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Post by chopper on Sept 12, 2018 15:51:42 GMT
I can’t believe I haven’t voted & commented on this excellent episode before! Just been on ITV4
I give it 5/5. It makes a change for Arthur to be ripped off & Terry gets the cold shoulder from his attractive potential partner, a lesson learned for both of them.
Great story, locations & cast.
Hard to believe I was still in my later years at primary school when series 3 was originally being aired. Can remember it always being on in the background at both my house, and next door (Barry the book) can still remember the theme tune “piping out” through Barry the books parents back door, which would have been easily heard as we amused ourselves out in the back gardens, pushing out our time before being summoned to indoors!!😆
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Post by barrythebook on Sept 12, 2018 17:37:39 GMT
I think the sub plot of Arthur dealing in second hand fire places being linked with the main subject of Barry being in debt to Ray (through Cyril) is excellent.
A clever episode imo.
I'd like to have seen Terry and Ram have a set to.
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Post by ace5150 on Sept 12, 2018 18:22:21 GMT
Watched today. I wanted Terry and Ram to "have it"
Good episode, glad the "simple Irishman" line hasn't been cut out. Loved Barry and Arthur laughing over Terry "in love" with Dolly.
Nigel Davenport as Ray was great, but I couldn't work out which eye was real.
Terry was better off without Dolly, bit of a snooty cow.
Always wondered why there's no ? after the title.
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Post by jno on Sept 13, 2018 1:57:24 GMT
Always wondered why there's no ? after the title. Me too.  |
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Post by ace5150 on Sept 13, 2018 8:02:41 GMT
Another thing I noticed, and probably the reason he couldn't close the deal with Dolly was Terry seemed to brag about sorting out a couple of thugs at the Chinese, hence he's well known there.
Terry never used to impress the women with his bravado stories.
He was punching above his weight trying to impress Dolly.
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Post by chopper on Feb 22, 2019 12:42:44 GMT
Always wondered why there's no ? after the title. Me too. Probably due to being a statement, rather than a quaestion - if my ‘O level’ English serves me correctly!..... |
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Post by chopper on Feb 22, 2019 12:45:48 GMT
Watched this again the other day, really is a great episode and story line. You really want Terry to hit off with Dolly, but he just doesn’t seem to be in her expectations, and his distractions don’t help.
Barry is a really conniving character and gives the episode so much, Dolly has - what was then a brand new Audi Coupe on her drive, a pricey car back in 1981.
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Post by I used to think I was a parrot on Mar 7, 2019 20:25:22 GMT
Watched this again the other day, really is a great episode and story line. You really want Terry to hit off with Dolly, but he just doesn’t seem to be in her expectations, and his distractions don’t help. Barry is a really conniving character and gives the episode so much, Dolly has - what was then a brand new Audi Coupe on her drive, a pricey car back in 1981. Lots of Terry's (and Ray's) lady friends always ask why he is going round with Arthur and why doesn't he get a proper job. |
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Post by jno on Mar 11, 2019 8:07:35 GMT
Watched this again the other day, really is a great episode and story line. You really want Terry to hit off with Dolly, but he just doesn’t seem to be in her expectations, and his distractions don’t help. Barry is a really conniving character and gives the episode so much, Dolly has - what was then a brand new Audi Coupe on her drive, a pricey car back in 1981. Lots of Terry's (and Ray's) lady friends always ask why he is going round with Arthur and why doesn't he get a proper job. It's an interesting one - Terry seems motivated to (sort of) keep fit but then sinks a few pints down the Winchester. How motivated is he to get a proper job though? Not really. Terry really is a drifter with no prospects - it's never stated explicitly but sometimes I get the feeling Terry helps Arthur because Arthur owns his drum - nothing more. |
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Post by thewoodster on Mar 11, 2019 23:28:32 GMT
Lots of Terry's (and Ray's) lady friends always ask why he is going round with Arthur and why doesn't he get a proper job. It's an interesting one - Terry seems motivated to (sort of) keep fit but then sinks a few pints down the Winchester. How motivated is he to get a proper job though? Not really. Terry really is a drifter with no prospects - it's never stated explicitly but sometimes I get the feeling Terry helps Arthur because Arthur owns his drum - nothing more. Well said jno,totally agree. |
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