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Post by Zimbo on Jan 3, 2017 11:13:16 GMT
The idea is plausible, it's just that nothing much develops, just Richard Griffiths going bonkers. The freeze frame finish does work ever so well at the end.
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Post by chopper on May 29, 2017 7:50:09 GMT
I agree - this is one of my least watched episodes & is worthy of no more than 3/5. It just doesn't get me going - and I find the plot a little far fetched at times.....
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Post by pr1 on Sept 11, 2017 0:05:11 GMT
I just watched this for the second time and while still enjoyable I don't think it's quite as good as I did the first time. This time I saw some of the criticisms others have mentioned. It does feel a bit unconnected. Arthur and Beryl, Terry and the Dreamhouse and Arthur and the flying pigs kind of feel like three separate ideas that no one could get to work as the basis for an entire episode or at least the secondary storyline in an episode. All three ideas are good so rather than not use them they were all stuck together in one episode. It is still surprising to see Arthur so blinded by greed over the deal with the flying pig rides. His instincts are usually much sharper. The ending, while amusing, seems extremely rushed as if they simply ran out of time.The way Kenny operates he is just begging to be made an example of by somebody, probley his boss, and soon after the events in this episode received a proper spanking.
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Post by barrythebook on Sept 11, 2017 11:38:07 GMT
The way Kenny operates he is just begging to be made an example of by somebody, probley his boss, and soon after the events in this episode received a proper spanking. I'm not so sure that Kenny actually had a boss. I reckon he was pulling this scam himself with just the one 'flying pig', going from manor to manor looking for potential targets and spinning them his made up story. Thinking about it, Kenny probably used this scam for a while and then moved onto something else but I'm sure someone, somewhere would recognise him at some point and sort him out.
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 19, 2018 23:05:27 GMT
Not one of the best sadly. The Arthur & Beryl storyline was ok, Kenny ripping off Arthur with the flying pig thing made Arthur look a novice in business, when from his stock, properties, motor, car lot etc., he wouldn’t have been even for Arthur, that gullible.
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Post by westldner on Apr 21, 2018 7:46:03 GMT
I thought it was interesting and made sense. With Terry just relaxing in the house to maybe play pool to pass the time. It felt like the kind of building I wanted to be in and feels a bit cheeky that I'm accessed the luxury around (since Dream House) is a bit of a cheek to think that I have until that someone around the house really needs some babysitting. I thought it made sense.
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Post by plasticpenguin on Jul 6, 2018 9:02:42 GMT
This episode is a hoot. Yes, it is borderline farcical, but the wonderful Richard Griffith playing the eccentric brother of a has-been star is riot. Beryl trying to seduce Arthur... the greasy stems of asparagus eaten seductively, and Arthur's face -- a brilliant piece of acting from George Cole. As soon as I saw it I thought about The Professionals episode 'Wild Justice', when Bodie, replying to Doyle about his chat-up lines to Kate Ross: "It's like a piece cheese trying to seduce a mouse."
Dreamhouse is the kind of episode you don't take too seriously: Just sit back and chuckle.
7/10
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Post by felixdeburgh on Jul 6, 2018 9:34:05 GMT
I watched it yesterday on ITV4 and it really is rubbish IMO. Just not Minder at all with people falling into swimming pools in comedy fashion. It passes the time but I don’t know what they were thinking when the script was given the seal of approval.
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Post by thewoodster on Jul 6, 2018 12:10:50 GMT
I watched it yesterday on ITV4 and it really is rubbish IMO. Just not Minder at all with people falling into swimming pools in comedy fashion. It passes the time but I don’t know what they were thinking when the script was given the seal of approval. I agree totally felix.
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Post by busli on Aug 16, 2018 9:32:57 GMT
When Derek pushes the piano in the pool, a couple of inches short and he could have lost his fingers.
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Post by johnnybear on Sept 27, 2018 17:53:53 GMT
I have no doubt MIAS is correct. The Beatles clip used in the Doctor Who story The Chase was removed when it was released on Region 1 DVD but it did appear in the VHS version. I remember that scene on The Chase pr1 and watched it on YouTube! It looks weird not to have that moment in the show and who cares anyway but the Beatles have always been a sticky point money wise! And you'd think that Paul McCartney might have enough money in his bank while he 'earns' a million every four minutes! JB
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Post by mayday on Mar 18, 2019 22:24:10 GMT
I think this is a great episode but I can see why some Minder fans wouldn't. Had this been part of series 7 when Dennis Waterman was getting fed up of the role, I think the result would've been not only awful but painful to watch. But it's Waterman as Terry when he's still enjoying himself, and he and George Cole are just having fun. I like Waterman and Richard Griffith's scenes together, Arthur with the seductive widow, and it's good to see Terry enjoying some freedom and luxury for a change. Pure farce and silliness but a lot of fun in my opinion.
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Post by jno on Mar 25, 2019 17:50:28 GMT
I think this is a great episode but I can see why some Minder fans wouldn't. Had this been part of series 7 when Dennis Waterman was getting fed up of the role, ... Do you have any hard factual evidence to support the fact that Dennis was getting fed up with role while filming series 7? Without wanting to go off topic, I think the word role would be best replaced with scripts, edits and political correctness.
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Post by mayday on Mar 26, 2019 19:13:04 GMT
I think this is a great episode but I can see why some Minder fans wouldn't. Had this been part of series 7 when Dennis Waterman was getting fed up of the role, ... Do you have any hard factual evidence to support the fact that Dennis was getting fed up with role while filming series 7? Without wanting to go off topic, I think the word role would be best replaced with scripts, edits and political correctness. I don't know if I can post long video clips but there's an interview of him on Youtube on The Wogan show in 1990 where he says how dissatisfied he had become with it. He goes on to say he was lucky to have other projects to do but even if he hadn't he still would've left Minder because it became the Arthur Daley show while Terry was increasingly in the background.
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Post by jno on Mar 27, 2019 4:20:01 GMT
I know that clip very well as it was me that posted it on YouTube years ago I am not sure that Dennis is stating he his fed up with his role as Terry there - more that the scripts don't do Terry any favours in terms of what he has to do i.e. I think he enjoys playing Terry just when it was like he 'used to' when Terry was given more to do and he wasn't on second fiddle to the Arthur plot. I think Dennis probably didn't totally get the fact that Arthur remained more or less the same aged character but Terry himself was a bit older now so birding it up and punch ups like before weren't on the script writers minds especially as times had changed regarding what was considered more acceptable to the viewer. Also let's not forget Dennis went out on 'An Officer & A Car Salesman' which even some on here is down the Carry On Minder route so his frustration is understandable. More here: minder.proboards.com/thread/24/why-Dennis-leave-minder I know series 7 scripts were heavily edited including that episode, but all this is way off the topic of the 'Dreamhouse' episode.
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Post by yoyopickles on Apr 7, 2019 9:37:03 GMT
Something that I've always wondered about this episode is what happened next regarding the flying pigs? Arthur seemed to know where to find Kenny so surely he would have sent Terry to get his money back.
Although I realise London is a big place , surely pulling a scam like this on people like Arthur was a risky business. Through the network of dodgy characters which Arthur was part of, Kenny would soon be tracked down and dealt with accordingly. Something must have happened, as Arthur is talking to Kenny, quite nicely in a later episode
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Post by thewoodster on Apr 8, 2019 16:38:33 GMT
I agree with yo-yos above comment.kenny was a small time chancer and could have easily been found.and Arthur having anything to do with him in later episodes is unexplained in the storyline.
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Post by yoyopickles on Apr 8, 2019 21:39:54 GMT
The thing is, they didn't have to have kenny used again, any actor could have played the grass character, but it was the fact that we had seen this bloke before, made the programme more realistic, as opposed to using the standard "Winchester club regular, we've never seen before, or will again" , such as confident, tick tack, scooter, self inflicted and so on
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Post by barrythebook on Apr 8, 2019 22:21:50 GMT
Which episode did Kenny re-appear in?
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Post by swainy on Apr 9, 2019 12:06:59 GMT
Which episode did Kenny re-appear in? Actor Dave Atkins who played Kenny appeared in ‘I'll Never Forget Whats'ername’ which is the first episode from series 9 but he was credited as ‘punter’ not as Kenny. He walk’s into Arthur’s car lot office and asks Arthur about the Scirocco to which arthur replies “Hot wind or something isn’t it?”
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Post by ace5150 on Aug 17, 2019 21:06:45 GMT
Watched today on an ITV4 recording. One thing that's ALWAYS overlooked is the excellent Richard Griffiths ranting whilst holding a bottle of brandy, suddenly, the cork shoots out after his speech. He proceeds to take a swig from the bottle. THAT'S improvisation at its best. I've watched it several times and can't fathom out how it's done! Brilliant, and for once, George Cole is second best after Richards portrayal in this episode.
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Post by barrythebook on Aug 17, 2019 21:54:55 GMT
One thing that's ALWAYS overlooked is the excellent Richard Griffiths ranting whilst holding a bottle of brandy, suddenly, the cork shoots out after his speech. He proceeds to take a swig from the bottle. THAT'S improvisation at its best. I've watched it several times and can't fathom out how it's done! I agree, Griffiths is excellent all the way through the episode. The scene you mention is priceless ace, I've always assumed that there was a piece of clear fishing line or similar attached to the cork, threaded through a needle maybe which was pulled by a crew member at the right time? It may have worked better with a bottle of Champagne as the cork popping would have been more appropriate/natural/expected but, whatever, the scene is an absolute gem.
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Post by ace5150 on Aug 18, 2019 8:50:59 GMT
It's the only way it could be done Barry. Utterly brilliant.
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Post by logie on Jan 27, 2020 7:18:21 GMT
Sorry to say, I found this episode a complete shambles, and the less said about it the better.
1 star for the Wanda Ventham scenes and thats it...
Next!
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Post by barrythebook on Jan 27, 2020 22:59:35 GMT
Sorry to say, I found this episode a complete shambles, and the less said about it the better. Each to their own logie but I wouldn't call it a shambles. It's slapstick and not what we're used to from Minder but there's still some lovely scenes. Arthur coaxing money out of Beryl and then his awkwardness around her sons is GC on good form. Terry investigating the house and eventually finding Farrow junior is well done which then leads onto the excellent scene as mentioned above by ace. The two groupies turning up to get some autographs turns into a bit of a drudge and the two 'heavies' sent down from oop north to collect could have been done a lot better but as I say, there are some good bits.
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Post by jjmolloy on Jan 28, 2020 1:27:53 GMT
Sorry to say, I found this episode a complete shambles, and the less said about it the better. Each to their own logie but I wouldn't call it a shambles. It's slapstick and not what we're used to from Minder but there's still some lovely scenes. Arthur coaxing money out of Beryl and then his awkwardness around her sons is GC on good form. Terry investigating the house and eventually finding Farrow junior is well done which then leads onto the excellent scene as mentioned above by ace. The two groupies turning up to get some autographs turns into a bit of a drudge and the two 'heavies' sent down from oop north to collect could have been done a lot better but as I say, there are some good bits. Even in what I would term my least preferred episodes there are always some excellent bits, so agree 100% with you there barry.
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Post by logie on Jan 28, 2020 7:04:32 GMT
Fair points, lads, and I take it on board. Of course, GC is always worth watching and lightens even the poorest episodes (including this one); I just feel that Minder in general set very high standards and, in this episode, fell well short of them.
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Post by jno on Jan 28, 2020 7:50:41 GMT
Fair points, lads, and I take it on board. Of course, GC is always worth watching and lightens even the poorest episodes (including this one); I just feel that Minder in general set very high standards and, in this episode, fell well short of them. I have to agree this is a weak one . I only scored this one an average at best - it starts off well but the ending is a bit of a carry on. It stands out because season 3 is so good otherwise.
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Post by felixdeburgh on Jan 28, 2020 22:50:42 GMT
The flying pig sub-plot is OK but as mentioned above, it seems a bit implausible that Arthur would be taken in so easily and that Kenny would not expect any comebacks from him, similar to Tasty in Around The Corner.
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Post by barrythebook on Mar 18, 2020 17:50:46 GMT
Watching this one now. The scenes around the indoor pool show a very luxurious home and lifestyle for someone. I just wonder what type of profession would have financed a home like this?
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