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Post by barrythebook on Oct 9, 2019 8:22:49 GMT
I’ve always known “gone case” as someone/something that is out of control. I might be wrong though. It doesn't seem to be used in that context here swainy. It appears to refer to two people living/being together as a couple.
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Post by Wynn Chester on Oct 10, 2019 18:24:21 GMT
There are some BB (not me, cos I'm not so young but free and single) who might say that living together is out of their control but I agree that it must have another meaning with regards its use in Minder...
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Post by Twin2 on Oct 28, 2019 16:01:57 GMT
Watched this again today and loved it. I'd forgotten how extremely funny it was.
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Post by mybodyguard on Nov 16, 2019 3:11:50 GMT
"Revealed? What has she revealed?"
Best Arthur line in the episode, and there were a lot of good ones.
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Post by Incapable on Nov 28, 2019 5:29:42 GMT
I’ve always known “gone case” as someone/something that is out of control. I might be wrong though. I could have sworn DelBoy says the line 'going caso with some tart' in an episode of OFAH
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Post by barrythebook on Nov 28, 2019 9:25:02 GMT
I’ve always known “gone case” as someone/something that is out of control. I might be wrong though. I could have sworn DelBoy says the line 'going caso with some tart' in an episode of OFAH
Quite possibly, I'm sure I've heard in programmes other than Minder and I sort of get what the phrase means and refers to but we just can't seem to find the source. It doesn't seem to crop up in any rhyming slang dictionaries.
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Post by Twin2 on Nov 28, 2019 9:55:58 GMT
I’ve always known “gone case” as someone/something that is out of control. I might be wrong though. I could have sworn DelBoy says the line 'going caso with some tart' in an episode of OFAH
Well spotted, yes he does. I can't remember off the top of my head which episode it is but it will soon come to me.
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Post by pr1 on Jan 6, 2020 0:59:13 GMT
Great episode packed with laugh out loud moments.
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Post by jno on Mar 9, 2020 16:10:41 GMT
A little blooper in this one. At the start Dave says to Arthur he has a call from 'Hammersmith Hospital' then when Arthur goes to visit Alex there's a shot of the outside with 'West London Hospital'. 'Hammersmith Hospital' is next door to the Wormwood Scrubs on Du Cane Road. 'Hammersmith Hospital' ain't anywhere near the old 'West London Hospital' which was on Hammersmith Road (it closed in 1993) - as mentioned on minder.org site here: ezitis.myzen.co.uk/westlondon.html
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Post by heredia1 on Apr 21, 2020 18:43:44 GMT
The very first episode my 9 year old watched with me today, have to say I found it the funniest episode to date as I make my way through the whole series. I explained the whole PC situation as best I could but gosh are those "awkward" scenes funny
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Post by barrythebook on Apr 22, 2020 0:14:07 GMT
The very first episode my 9 year old watched with me today, have to say I found it the funniest episode to date as I make my way through the whole series. I explained the whole PC situation as best I could but gosh are those "awkward" scenes funny Great to see you're introducing some young blood to the treats Minder has to offer . The 'awkward' scenes are as funny now as they've always been - great stuff.
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Post by harryshand on Jun 9, 2020 13:09:36 GMT
Just snorted with laughter at this episode. GC's facial expressions are off the scale funny.
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Post by jno on Jul 15, 2020 7:29:09 GMT
Terry McCann Bird Bandit, press photo from this one:
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Post by logie on Jul 15, 2020 12:25:15 GMT
Terry McCann Bird Bandit, press photo from this one: Random bit of Trivia; my parents had that exact same duvet cover in the 80s. I think they may still have it...knowing them, it wouldn't surprise me!
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Post by c79 on Nov 11, 2020 12:17:22 GMT
I’ve always known “gone case” as someone/something that is out of control. I might be wrong though. I could have sworn DelBoy says the line 'going caso with some tart' in an episode of OFAH Yes, I remember that - could have been from "No Greater Love" where Rodney has a fling with villain's wife Irene Mackay. This is from the Quora website:
The term ‘gone case’ originated from an Indian card game called “29”. If a person or team lost a hand or the game, they had ‘gone case.’
Now, ‘gone case’ describes a person or situation that is hopeless, beyond help or gone out of control.
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Post by nationalpelmet on Dec 2, 2020 22:21:34 GMT
Standout episode. Great bit of conversation in the antique shop between Arthur and Terry. And ain’t Arthur at his Rolls Royce best patter firstly with Sister and then Terry’s Nan. Hilarious when Terry wrestles one of the stooges on the roof who declares that he’s just had a hair transplant 🤣
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Post by kelotoph on May 15, 2021 12:59:40 GMT
Saw this for the first time today and loved it. Yes, it was of its age and using dialogue that would not have been uncommon then, but what some might find offensive now is well balanced in the episode by Terry's acceptance of the situation. However, the uneasiness of Terry and Arthur is excellently portrayed and there are several laugh-out-loud moments, most notably the scene where Arthur happens on Jim sitting on the end of Terry's bed, capped with the duvet throw-back moment.
I thought that the hospital Sister was a bit too heavily made-up, although she was a nice addition to the sub-plot about the watches. I also picked up on another Arthur Daley malapropism when he referred to "consulting adults" (as opposed to "consenting").
A really good episode.
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Post by barrythebook on Aug 21, 2021 8:58:26 GMT
Incidentally, do we know the origin of the phrase "case"? Off the top of my head, Terry and Arthur use this to describe Alex and Jim living together, but Terry also uses it when being asked to horse sit several hundred weight of unprocessed dog meat in National Pelmet Watched an episode of 'Public Eye' last night, 'Hard Times' (1975). There's a scene of Marker and a client discussing the whereabouts a woman and Marker asks, "Is she on the game?", to which his client replies, "She'll go case for fifty." At first I assumed he meant that she'd have sex/go case for fifty quid but then reading WC's post above regarding Terry going case with a horse, I can't imagine it'd mean that! So I reckon it's being used in the context of sharing a bed - however we're still no closer to finding the origins of the term.
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Post by artyboy1973 on Sept 13, 2021 15:40:22 GMT
This is a great episode but I don’t know why ITV4 miss this episode out every time on the Minder reruns. I am guessing it’s to do with gay issues. It would be great to see this episode back on the ITV4 reruns.
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Post by barrythebook on Sept 13, 2021 19:23:27 GMT
This is a great episode but I don’t know why ITV4 miss this episode out every time on the Minder reruns. I am guessing it’s to do with gay issues. It would be great to see this episode back on the ITV4 reruns. It's been shown on ITV4 in the past albeit an edited version. Episodes aren't always shown in series order so it ay turn up quite randomly at some point.
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Post by azza200 on Sept 13, 2021 21:12:23 GMT
I have got to the point now where only have Minder on in the background on ITV4 now. The random order they show eps and the editing is annoying now. I have recently just finished a re watch of all the Terry year's so in real rush to watch them again and in sh*tty fake full screen and not 4.3 ratio.
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Post by barrythebook on Sept 13, 2021 21:30:34 GMT
I have got to the point now where only have Minder on in the background on ITV4 now I know what you mean. Some of the material that's been cut leaves me baffled too as it's not offensive in any way, it must be purely to make the episode fit an allotted timeslot. I'd strongly recommend anyone that's only seen the ITV4 edited versions of Minder and Sweeney to buy the uncut dvd sets.
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Post by Albert Wendell on Sept 15, 2021 14:54:44 GMT
I could have sworn DelBoy says the line 'going caso with some tart' in an episode of OFAH Yes, I remember that - could have been from "No Greater Love" where Rodney has a fling with villain's wife Irene Mackay. This is from the Quora website:
The term ‘gone case’ originated from an Indian card game called “29”. If a person or team lost a hand or the game, they had ‘gone case.’
Now, ‘gone case’ describes a person or situation that is hopeless, beyond help or gone out of control.
Perhaps in the days of frowning upon unmarried couples living together/sharing a bed it was seen that they were out of control not to wait until married. I'm sure Arthur uses this phrase in 'A Number Of Old Wives Tales' when trying to make excuses for Clive to Chisholm Arthur says something like "no Clive phoned me and explained, that is whats known as his common law wife he was just living caseo with the bird" to which Chisholm replies "wrong! we checked they married in Chiswick registry office in 1972". This is just from memory so I may be wrong and the lines I quoted are just words to that effect, can anyone clarify?
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Post by Wynn Chester on Sept 15, 2021 15:38:05 GMT
He does mention case in that episode Albert, but its when Arthur and Terry are in the lockup having a cuppa, after they and Arnie had been tugged by Chisholm..
"I told you, he phoned me and explained it all. He's been living case with a bird for a short while, she's what they call a common law wife."
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Post by Albert Wendell on Sept 15, 2021 20:29:07 GMT
He does mention case in that episode Albert, but its when Arthur and Terry are in the lockup having a cuppa, after they and Arnie had been tugged by Chisholm.. "I told you, he phoned me and explained it all. He's been living case with a bird for a short while, she's what they call a common law wife."Thanks for clarification on that, I haven't seen the episode since August 2015 (although I've seen it many times) so was just going on memory , but glad my quote was near correct and that I hadn't imagined it. Also all this talk about the phrase 'case' has made me decide to add it to my vocabulary, I look forward for a situation to arise where I can use it, that'll probably be down the pub.
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Post by geoffc on Mar 28, 2023 12:03:23 GMT
Certain Minder episodes have aged extremely badly - I don’t mean technically in terms of picture or sound quality , or visually in terms of fashions , motors and now demolished urban landscapes . But culturally in terms of attitudes the various characters display. This episode now seems like ancient history to the modern viewer. Its premise is really just one long joke – that straight men feel uncomfortable alone in the presence of a gay man – presumably from fear being chatted-up, seduced, propositioned or otherwise enticed away to join the “all boys team”. Plenty of double entendres and one-liners – “safe in your hands “ , “The spare room must be Alex’s I suppose”. And Sight gags – Arthur mopping his brow. Arthur sidling off to hide behind the door frame . Boys Own “close escapes” black humour back at the Winchester. The old cliché oft repeated – I’ve got nothing against them but ……. “
I like the idea of Terry resolutely not interested in one of Arthur’s watches , refusing to be taken in as Dave is beguiled into buying one – but later asks his gran “Did you like the watch ? “ . Brilliant – Terry falling for Arthur’s sales pitch yet again.
How did this episode come across at the time – I didn’t have TV in my rented flat ( no aerial provided ! ) until the mid 80’s so can’t comment . I note that the Thatcher Government came to power just as this episode was written – with a swing to right socially as well as economically . Family values and all that. Section 28 came later in 1988.
Of its time or just not that funny – hard to say but 3/5
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Post by metro1962 on Mar 28, 2023 13:02:27 GMT
Certain Minder episodes have aged extremely badly - I don’t mean technically in terms of picture or sound quality , or visually in terms of fashions , motors and now demolished urban landscapes . But culturally in terms of attitudes the various characters display. This episode now seems like ancient history to the modern viewer. Its premise is really just one long joke – that straight men feel uncomfortable alone in the presence of a gay man – presumably from fear being chatted-up, seduced, propositioned or otherwise enticed away to join the “all boys team”. Plenty of double entendres and one-liners – “safe in your hands “ , “The spare room must be Alex’s I suppose”. And Sight gags – Arthur mopping his brow. Arthur sidling off to hide behind the door frame . Boys Own “close escapes” black humour back at the Winchester. The old cliché oft repeated – I’ve got nothing against them but ……. “ I like the idea of Terry resolutely not interested in one of Arthur’s watches , refusing to be taken in as Dave is beguiled into buying one – but later asks his gran “Did you like the watch ? “ . Brilliant – Terry falling for Arthur’s sales pitch yet again. How did this episode come across at the time – I didn’t have TV in my rented flat ( no aerial provided ! ) until the mid 80’s so can’t comment . When it was originally aired it was the 'norm' to see this type of thing on tv as no one really batted an eyelid (if you had a time machine and you went back to that decade and the one before that) you would have known exactly what went on then) you need to put on 1970's/1980's eyes sometimes to view stuff now,if you look at stuff like Are you being served or the Alf Garnett spin off/sequel In Sickness and in Health both had central 'Gay' characters) series a gay person (in the 70's early 80's the word 'Gay' was never ever used until later on before then Gay meant 'Happy') it was always seen as a ridicule of fun or a threat to the 'straight man' Apologies if I went on a bit.
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Post by mlynn on Apr 2, 2023 0:04:29 GMT
Hang on a mo... I was convinced that the actor that played Jim is Christopher Neil of Adventures Of... Films fame but it is credited Alun Lewis. He looks a lot like Christopher Neil. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_NeilInterestingly he produced a number of records including: 1980 Sheena Easton "Modern Girl"[8][9] 8 18 "9 to 5" / "Morning Train"[8][9] 3 1 Dennis Waterman "I could Be So Good for You"[10] 3 — What a coincidence.
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Post by pr1 on May 8, 2023 1:38:03 GMT
Watched this again tonight. The parts with Terry’s Gran were even more amusing than I remembered.
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Post by barrythebook on May 8, 2023 9:41:21 GMT
Watched this again tonight. The parts with Terry’s Gran were even more amusing than I remembered. Terrys Gran is a very good addition to the episode and allowed some funny dialogue between Arthur and Terry. Her extremely sparse house which hadn't seen any modernising for many years was way out of date for the era and to have her watching Open University was a nice touch. My own Gran would sit for hours watching snooker on TV and would openly admit that she didn't have a clue of the rules, the scoring or the object of the game, she just enjoyed watching the shots and the balls going into the pockets.
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