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Post by gazpete on Apr 26, 2008 8:54:29 GMT
Two great lines in this show, I think so anyway, when Terry asks Arthur 'When did Harold get hit in the eye', and Arthur says 'I don't know I never saw that fight' and when he is talking about the singer Sharon and he says 'We'll be tax haveining it in the Cayman Islands' and Terry goes 'More like caravanning on canvey island', brilliant writing, was it Leon Griffiths or somebody else, also that but where Terry's fellow bouncer beats up that guy is v realistic.
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Post by steve99 on Apr 26, 2008 19:14:50 GMT
A quick check on us.imdb.com confirms it was indeed Leon Griffiths who scripted Monday Night Fever. As you probably know, Leon got the idea for the Winchester (and the phrase 'er indoors) from dodgy drinking clubs he frequented pre-Minder, and I dare say the characters he mingled with inspired some of Arthur's adventures.
Brian Croucher - who's been in everything from a Lindsay Anderson film to Crossroads - was the bouncer with the attitude problem who beat up the young bloke who wanted to finish his drink. From what I've seen and heard, there are far more bouncers like this than nice guys like Tel...
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Post by casey on Jun 2, 2008 4:43:23 GMT
Brian Croucher plays Big John who ultimately bottles it from Terry and Mad Vic. Also good to see Shiela White keep her clothes on ...almost
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Post by jno on Feb 16, 2015 19:58:00 GMT
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Post by Arch Stanton on Jul 6, 2015 15:57:28 GMT
Monday Night Fever.
During a chance encounter whilst busy flogging some knocked off bottles of vodka, Arthur meets a young singer, Sharon, who's busy auditioning for a chance to shine on the local circuit. Although every one else within ear shot is under no illusions at her extreme lack of talent, Arthur on the other hand is besotted, and believes that she most definitely has the x-factor.. In the meantime Terry is left to his own devices re-labelling stock in one of Arthur's lock ups. In his attempts to expose her 'star qualities', Arthur books a gig for Sharon... with Chris, the owner of 'The Music Room'; a flash little snide, who operates the music venue along with his thuggish head of security 'Big John'. Chris has no qualms about taking a substantial amount of Arthur's money, on the pretence that he will set up a big star studded showcase for Sharon. But when the big night comes, it soon transpires that Arthur has been ripped off, that Sharon sings like a tomcat in a microwave, and that Terry wants nothing to do with Arthur's plans for retribution... Nice to finally see an 'Arthur' episode, and a good one it is too. The bad guys are suitably menacing and boo hiss, while the show itself has some good one liners and funny moments (Any program that starts with a 1970s disco dancing sequence is usually good for a laugh). The cast are good with tons of TV faces including Malahide putting in his second turn as Chisholm, and Brian Croucher providing us with the bully Big John. Sheila White, who played Robin Askwith's sister, 'Rosie', in the 'Confessions' films. . . . and also the rapacious harlot Messalina in I Clavdivs [sic ], expertly hitting every bum note possible as Sharon! Director Mike Vardy putting his hand to much great TV over the years. Fisticuffs wise I cannot have been the only one in the audience that was hoping Terry would fill Big John in... However, sadly he never does. Finally, it is probably also worth noting that this episode sees the introduction of Terry's air hostess girl, Penny (Gennie Nevinson). Although she doesn't get her bum out like Debbie did in the episode previous..
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Post by plasticpenguin on Jul 8, 2015 3:34:28 GMT
It's a very good ep, although Arthur snoggin another - younger - woman? Fully understand Arthur not fully grasping what classifies as a talented person, but the passionate bit? IMO I think the scriptwriter got that wrong.
Moreover, it's a hoot to watch...
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Post by jno on Jul 8, 2015 4:04:23 GMT
It's a very good ep, although Arthur snoggin another - younger - woman? I agree it is out of place to see Arthur with Sharon in the car. This was early on though but clearly Leon Griffiths has Arthur down originally as someone who regularly played away from home as this is very much a feature in his novel. If you have a little read of link: The Minder Novel Review in 'The Minder Vault' it mentions Arthur having an affair with a woman called Pat Maxwell. I have to agree with Arch above - Terry sorting out Big John would really have been nice to see. That said, seeing Vic Piner do it would probably have been more entertaining!
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Post by barrythebook on Jul 8, 2015 20:52:30 GMT
Wasn't in 'The Beer Hunter' that Arthur berates Terrys suggestion of Yorkie finding a woman for the night by saying..."but he's an 'appily married man!" to which Terry replies, "Your an 'appily married man but are you home every night?" Implying that Arthur likes to play away a bit I would assume.
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Post by daz on Sept 19, 2015 8:07:38 GMT
This was watched again yesterday. The first thing upon watching it again is how much the character of Arthur evolves from the first series, did he ever like the ladies much after series one? The line about "having dinner with Jimmy Saville" must have seemed so innocent back then, I wonder if it is now cut out from showings on TV.
I just wish Terry gave Big John a good slapping, never has a character deserved one so much, him and his boss came across very well as a pair of right ******** and would have been good to see them get their just deserts. Vic Piner, played so well by Anthony Headon, came across as a real headcase, but was duly laid out by out Terry, quality. I think Anthony Headon deserves a mention in the "Stars who disappeared" thread in off topic. Peter Blake popped up as the keyboard player and must have filmed an episode of Shoestring not long after where again he played a musician. My eldest was impressed when he saw Patrick Malahide on the screen, he reconised him from Game of Thrones.
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Post by wayne2467 on Nov 20, 2015 22:34:08 GMT
Brian Croucher plays a nasty piece of work in this episode. I would say though not typical, there were more doormen/bouncers like that back then.
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Post by daytona355 on Nov 24, 2015 22:40:44 GMT
Watching this right now. Arthur was still chasing skirt in these episodes! Awesome
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Post by daz on Nov 25, 2015 8:06:48 GMT
Brian Croucher plays a nasty piece of work in this episode. I would say though not typical, there were more doormen/bouncers like that back then. Bouncers like that were still on the go well into this millennium. I think hey generally caused more problems than they solved, but Terry was one of the good guys.
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Post by pr1 on Feb 18, 2016 6:26:23 GMT
I thought I'd try commenting while I'm watching the episode. I love the way Arthur compares his storage area of dodgy goods to Harrods. It's also amusing the way he says 'I'm Arthur Daley' like everyone should know his name!.Talk about delusions of grandeur! Great episode so far and I'm only twenty minutes in.
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Post by pr1 on Feb 18, 2016 7:19:00 GMT
So many great lines in this episode. It's fun to see an episode with Arthur as the main character. All the jokes about Arthur's dodgy goods are fun. I love the way Arhur rationalize his shady dealings or at least thinks he can rationalize them. The Albanian jeans have to good because they were on our side during the war. Priceless.
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Post by jno on Feb 18, 2016 7:23:23 GMT
The Albanian jeans have to good because they were on our side during the war. Priceless.
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Post by barrythebook on Feb 20, 2016 10:03:05 GMT
So many great lines in this episode. It's fun to see an episode with Arthur as the main character. All the jokes about Arthur's dodgy goods are fun. I love the way Arhur rationalize his shady dealings or at least thinks he can rationalize them. The Albanian jeans have to good because they were on our side during the war. Priceless. There's countless little gems like this throughout the series which help make Minder so good. Very clever script writing, excellently delivered by a great actor. The natural connection between GC and DW on screen also contributed to the quality of the programme.
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Post by Toecutter on May 19, 2016 14:36:24 GMT
Just noticed when Chisholm says to Arthur when at the lock up where all the booze is stashed 'not sure if they were on the way in or on the way out' when Arthur needs to open a second padlock to gain access himself. Great episode.
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Post by jno on May 19, 2016 17:11:01 GMT
What time of day does ITV 4 show Minder? ITV4 don't show Minder, they show a very poorly edited version of it. The DVDs are the only way to see this as it was intended, not as the PC brigade intended. ITV4 is an avoid - click 'Like' if you're with me.
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Post by pr1 on May 19, 2016 17:16:25 GMT
What time of day does ITV 4 show Minder? ITV4 don't show Minder, they show a very poorly edited version of it. The DVDs are the only way to see this as it was intended, not as the PC brigade intended. ITV4 is an avoid. What time of day do they run so called episodes of Minder? I can only imagine how badly editing effects a great show like Minder. I'm sure the first thing to go are all the wonderful little bits that make it so memorable and watchable.
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Post by jno on May 19, 2016 17:20:31 GMT
What time of day do they run so called episodes of Minder? I can only imagine how badly editing effects a great show like Minder. I'm sure the first thing to go are all the wonderful little bits that make it so memorable and watchable. Any edits make something sub-standard in my book. Times can vary but they are edited to death as it is pre-watershed i.e. before 9 PM: www.ITV.com/hub/minder/1a8672a0036Meanwhile back on the topic of the episode...
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Post by Wynn Chester on May 19, 2016 19:04:00 GMT
Just watched the ITV4 edit eating my evening meal and the Jimmy Saville line was uncut...
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Post by gustav on May 19, 2016 19:28:24 GMT
I think some of the cuts are sometimes just made to shave off an extra couple of minutes to give more time for adverts. It is often done very clumsily.
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Post by arnie on May 20, 2016 15:00:26 GMT
It's another good watch and storyline but for me is marred by Arthurs philandering..... and calling Sharon, Shearon.
There are many great scenes and quotes from Minder when Arthur shows his disgust at Terrys "birding" - always superbly delivered by GC I might add. Arthurs actions in this one goes against all that, which I find odd and out of place.
In fairness this is an early episode, I suppose none of the characters have quite fully evolved. This is certainly true of a stern and forthright Dave in an early mock of the Winchester Club and of Chisholm lacking the angst and sarcasm (and a Welshman!)that made his character supremely funny.
On a side note - this is one of the few episodes that Arthur mentions his kids. When he crashes at Terrys after being locked out by Er Indoors, he asks Terry to give him a shout at 7.45 so he can drop the kids to school.
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Post by gra966 on Nov 12, 2016 6:20:16 GMT
A great episode for comedy -the scene where Arthur turns up at Terry s flat at 5 in the morning is hilarious Keep your eyes peeled for a member of the band that is a dead ringer for Keith Lemon ! As with Only Fools & Horses many main supporting characters only have small roles in the early episodes The usual feud between Chisholm & Arthur is no where near as strong here Peter Blake had a regular role as medallion man Kirk in late 80s sitcom Dear John Brian Croucher was always playing thuggish characters around this time I can always remember him in The Professionals episode Weekend in the Country as one of the villains holding the hostages in the farmhouse
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Post by glazbury on Nov 28, 2016 17:13:56 GMT
Arthur & Vic Piner outside the Winchester Club after Dave refuses Vic entry: Vic Piner: "He slagged me off?" Arthur: "No, no, take it easy. Just said you were barred! Didn't cast any aspersions on you!"
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Post by Wynn Chester on Mar 6, 2017 14:29:13 GMT
I'm working my way from the start to finish of the Terry McCann years again and am intrigued by Terry's use of the phrase "you've been at the long firm again" in reference to the lock up full of what he thinks is hooky gear. This has bugged me for quite some time so please put me out of my misery, what is the connection between the two?
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Post by swainy on Mar 6, 2017 15:42:47 GMT
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Post by Wynn Chester on Mar 6, 2017 16:36:18 GMT
Cheers Swainy, the answer was right under my nose all along. 😀
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Post by rjc77 on Apr 19, 2017 23:53:00 GMT
Arthur: Phwoarrr! This could do with a visit to Sketchley's!!
LOL!!
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Post by chopper on May 2, 2017 19:07:34 GMT
I felt I was slightly charitable giving this 4/5 - all round it's a fair reflection. There are a few moments that are a bit silly - but there were also some very fine moments,too.
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