Been repeating on C4 for weeks. Never liked it, the dad and his daft dog are ok but Frasier and Niles are too smug and condescending to appeal as characters. The English au pair is annoying as well. Probably aimed at a more appreciative American audience who loved Friends is lost on me I'm afraid. All those awards it won is a mystery to me. I "get" the intelligent script, but it does not work at all for me. Kelsey Grammer was ok as Sideshow Bob's voice in Simpson's and as Beast in X-Men, but I'd forgotten him in Cheers he was that unremarkable.
Post by dscarter1975 on Sept 22, 2017 10:39:09 GMT
I'm with you here, ace. I once went to my cousins' house and watched an episode there and just didn't find it funny at all but my cousin sister liked it.
"What was I thinking of, hitting him? Nothing. No, I know. I hate him! I hate his guts, I hate everything he stands for with his PACE and his plus and his statements of purpose and his smiling at the punters and his have a nice day! I mean when was the last time he ever nicked anybody, eh? A real villain! When was the last time he ever put himself on the line?"
This was one of those shows where I felt you had to be in the mood to tolerate Kelsey Grammar's comedic style. Some days I could tolerate it and thought there were some good episodes, but if I'm in a different mood, it's one of the last shows I ever wanted to see. The Frasier character was an annoying one on the classic show, Cheers, so it was an odd turn to see him get a show as the main role, but it did have great success.
Its best moments were the absurd situations Frasier and his brother found themselves in with women.
I am going to get slated here but I have never seen it.
No slating here, you deserve a handshake for dodging this smug bilge. Wifey watches it all the time, I have NO idea of the appeal. The canned laughter is more annoying than usual, like its louder and on more often.
I enjoyed 'Taxi', hated 'M*A*S*H' (I don't think the canned laughter track helped) and I thought 'Cheers' was reasonable. TBH, I have never really been a fan of US sitcoms.
With you there mias, not many U.S. sitcoms do it for me. I did like Taxi, Soap and a minor classic WKRP Cincinnati which was very good. My Name Is Earl was fantastic first few series, and Larry Sanders was genius. Seinfeld was not! There's a few more, but not many.
I never watched 'Frasier' when it was first on, I knew it was a spin-off from 'Cheers' which I did not get at all. In fact I watch very little American comedy, although there are exceptions ('Curb Your Enthusiasm' and 'Portlandia' spring to mind, neither I suspect likely to be popular here). However, the fact that it has been perpetually repeated ever since means I have gradually seen probably every episode and I have come to enjoy it. It is, as is said above, very smug although that is really part of the joke. Although I suspect that, in reality, Kelsey Grammar is every bit as self obsessed as the character he plays. But it is well written and if you get into it there is a lot to like. I find a lot of American comedy over-written and over-played and you could say the same of this one, but once you accept the main characters it does become very funny. There are annoying characters - Daphne's brother (or the main one who appears a lot) has a ludicrous accent and persona, other brothers include Robbie Coltrane and Richard E. Grant so it is pretty clear that British geography/regional accents are not a strong point of the production. But 'Frasier' is a genuinely funny comedy character and the show a good comic creation in my view, the only US comedy I have enjoyed from beginning to end.
I thought it was just me when many have said it wasn't funny. I liked the production values of the show but I never really understood why it was ever made into a comedy to be honest. I may give it another chance because it may have not been for it for me when I watched it. I was 16 years old. Really not for me but I really should give it another watch at least. I do remember the brothers arguing and the father intervening.
Also could anyone believe that the show was popular enough that the brothers has their own episode for the Simpsons? Because Kelsey Grammer voices Sideshow Bob in the series, so they decided to get David Hyde Pierce to play his brother and they fight about how they got the part to be Krusty The Clown's sidekick, so it was funny but I wonder if it was meant to be a strong reference to what happened in Frasier.
Post by thecraftyleek on Jun 17, 2018 21:56:01 GMT
Mrs Leek is a fan. And like the statement above about repeats, I have grown to like the show over the past few years. I never watched it first time around. It’s quite funny.
I totally get why UK TV viewers don’t like American humour, but Frasier is one of the few US sitcoms that I enjoy. That and Married With Children.
I also saw Kelsey Grammar on the US version of Who Do You Think You Are? He wasn’t like Frasier at all and came across as a pretty sound guy. His ancestors were pioneers that went across America in the 19th century. It was fascinating stuff. I was teaching Westward Expansion in the USA at the time.