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Post by jno on Jul 3, 2015 13:39:26 GMT
Link to episode on minder.org: www.minder.org/episodeguide/S03E04_LookingForMicky.htm
This is an absolute cracker of an episode from start to finish in my opinion. The jackets, Freddie Baker, Bill Nighy, Debbie, Arthur getting roughed up, Terry facing it out and Chisholm & Jones in hot pursuit - love it! 9/10.
Slight clue on the film date as May 4 1981 appears at the top of the newspaper that is seen in the episode.
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Post by Wynn Chester on Jul 3, 2015 16:27:21 GMT
Now that there Freddie Baker, he was one nasty looking villain! Shame he wasn't used more often, especially as he and Terry obviously had some previous...
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Post by VAT on Aug 13, 2015 14:24:17 GMT
Now that there Freddie Baker, he was one nasty looking villain! Shame he wasn't used more often, especially as he and Terry obviously had some previous... Yep, Freddie was a great villain...but Tell wasn't scared
"I'm going to claim that Baker..."
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Post by daz on Oct 21, 2015 9:48:17 GMT
Have to agree with the opening post, a great episode, but doesn't seem to last too long, the ending was a little flat for me also, the rivalry between Terry and Freddie should have been exploited in a follow up episode, don't believe someone as allegedly evil as Freddie Baker would have left the end situation as it was.
I thought Chisholm stole this episode in his search for Micky. The Sports Jackets were also a great theme running throughout the episode.
I couldn't quite place the journalist who grassed up Micky to Baker and was surprised to see he was played by Bill Nighy and an appearance by Debbie wouldn't be the same if she wasn't showing off her assets.
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Post by pr1 on Apr 3, 2016 15:30:05 GMT
Is there anything Arthur won't try to make money off of? I know. It's a rhetorical question. The running gag of the jackets was a nice touch. 'I didnt't say it was exclusive. I said it was exclusive cut.' Freddie Baker is a fine villain and I'm sorry to read he never appeared again.
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Post by barrythebook on Apr 3, 2016 18:10:03 GMT
The jacket gag fitted into the episode very well. Cant agree with you about Baker though, I never found him very convincing. Maybe it would have been better if we heard more about his past and what he was known for in the underworld.
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Post by daz on Apr 3, 2016 19:08:41 GMT
Cant agree with you about Baker though, I never found him very convincing. Maybe it would have been better if we heard more about his past and what he was known for in the underworld. I just thought there was something very sinister about the guy Baker, even though it didn't delve too much into his past. The fact they had him as a bit of a Mummy's boy suggests they didn't look too far for inspiration. A great shame he never did pop up again, but I can honestly say that about plenty more Minder characters.
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Post by pr1 on Apr 3, 2016 19:48:43 GMT
It might have been interesting if Terry had the chance to bring Freddie Baker down. That may have required an atypical episode.
I agree that Minder seems to have planty of characters that would have been fun to see again. Unfortunately we can't see everyone again.
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Post by jno on Apr 6, 2016 3:38:32 GMT
Freddie Baker - is he arguably Minder's worst villainous?
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Post by pr1 on Apr 6, 2016 14:18:34 GMT
Freddie Baker - is he arguably Minder's worst villainous? I like his low key slimy manner. It contrasts nicely with Arthur's big personality and Terry's more laid back nature. I'll admit that Freddie Baker is not a perfect villain in the episode but the character had the potential to appear again and be developed into a better villain. One of the wonderful strengths of Minder is that there are so many characters that would have been fun to see again.
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Post by barrythebook on Apr 6, 2016 20:13:56 GMT
Freddie Baker - is he arguably Minder's worst villainous?
Arthur points to Baker being involved in boxing management in the past but a little more information on his activities would have been good. The way Arthur, Debbie and Dave try to warn Terry off Baker, makes it sound like he's a real nasty, violent piece of work but I didn't find him very convincing. Also very strange that he looked somewhat older than his own Mother!
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Post by jno on Apr 7, 2016 2:19:26 GMT
I have a different opinion on this one baz, I think John Moffatt's portrayal of the character really makes him come across as very sinister. Also, lobbing Arthur out of the car - Arthur is threatened in quite a few episodes but as far as actions that 'do him a mischief' are concerned, this is up there as one of the worst for me. I agree though that John Moffatt does look quite old as Baker, born in 1922 he would have been about 59/60 when this was being made. I must confess of all the TV and film I've seen over the years I've (till now) not seen John Moffatt in much else, other than 'Britannia Hospital' (1982) and 'Still Crazy Like A Fox' (1987). According to his Wikipedia page, later on in his career he did readings on stage with Judi Dench and her then husband, Michael Williams in something called 'Fond & Favour' ( www.djdchronology.com/efghijk/FONDANDFAMILIAR.htm ). His IMDB record also shows he was in 'Sir Francis Drake' which also starred our very own Glynn Edwards.
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Post by barrythebook on Apr 12, 2016 20:34:32 GMT
I must confess of all the TV and film I've seen over the years I've (till now) not seen John Moffatt in much else, other than 'Britannia Hospital' (1982)
Coincidentally, I watched some of this a few days ago on TalkingPictures and recognised JM right away. Playing a softly spoken, prim and properĀ Hospital official/civil servant, he was a million miles away from Freddie Baker.
I found the film pretty surreal by the way and couldn't get into it at all. Leonard Rossiter was in the lead role but even he couldn't make it enjoyable.
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Post by gra966 on Nov 23, 2016 6:26:15 GMT
Another episode featuring a stripper !! ITV 4 would have the hacksaw out again - I think some scenes in this one were filmed slightly later than others - when we see Micky running through the woods at the beginning the trees are in full leaf - a little later in a couple of other scenes there are no leaves on the trees - Arthur is back with the dark green Jag , although he tells Freddie he also has a grey one - Freddie was a good menacing villain - especially being driven around in a brand new S-Class Merc - The shot of the Merc pulling up to dump Arthur out onto the road looked as though it had been "speeded up" - they had probably been instructed by Mercedes that it couldn't be used for any stunt driving !! - The piece with the jackets was a good comedy element - especially Chisholm spotting Mickey wearing one & putting two and two together
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Post by Zimbo on Dec 20, 2016 23:35:01 GMT
I did think this was very good, especially after "Rembrandt..." which I wasn't too keen on. I was reassured seeing that it was a Tony Hoare script. Got to agree with the majority about John Moffat being menacing as Freddie. Patrick Malahide is credited on the opening titles for the first time in his sixth appearance and shows what an asset to the series he was. On the other hand, it's sad to see Diana Malin making her final appearance. At least we get to see her bum again. Great line from Chisholm to Arthur "You've got more rabbit than Watership Down". Then his face when he sees all those jackets at The Winchester. Outstanding.
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Post by jno on Dec 21, 2016 7:05:03 GMT
Great line from Chisholm to Arthur "You've got more rabbit than Watership Down". This is a superb line, and one that I try to adopt in everyday conversation, not that anyone but me gets it. Chas'n'Dave of course used the alternative 'Sainsburys' in their tune, also in 1981 but later in November.
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Post by yoyopickles on Jan 30, 2017 7:56:48 GMT
I noticed that when Arthur goes into the newspaper offices, he is a sheepskin jacket, which is really more del boy then arthur!
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Post by rjc77 on Apr 20, 2017 7:22:52 GMT
Link to episode on minder.org: www.minder.org/episodeguide/S03E04_LookingForMicky.htm
This is an absolute cracker of an episode from start to finish in my opinion. The jackets, Freddie Baker, Bill Nighy, Debbie, Arthur getting roughed up, Terry facing it out and Chisholm & Jones in hot pursuit - love it! 9/10.
Slight clue on the film date as May 4 1981 appears at the top of the newspaper that is seen in the episode.
Was/is there an actual newspaper in the London area by the name of 'The Echo', or is it a fictional publication specially created for Minder? I know there are papers of that name elsewhere (e.g. The Liverpool Echo, The Southern Echo, etc), just curious? BTW, I live in the Midlands. RJC.
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Post by swainy on Apr 20, 2017 18:32:43 GMT
There was, but the last issue was published in 1905.
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Post by rjc77 on Apr 25, 2017 19:57:03 GMT
There was, but the last issue was published in 1905. Doesn't really qualify then for the time this episode was filmed (1981). RJC.
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Post by chopper on May 25, 2017 10:45:20 GMT
I nearly gave this 4 - but decided on 3/5,has some fine moments,the jacket selling etc. I just found it a little far-fetched.....
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Post by chopper on May 25, 2017 10:50:29 GMT
Another episode featuring a stripper !! ITV 4 would have the hacksaw out again - I think some scenes in this one were filmed slightly later than others - when we see Micky running through the woods at the beginning the trees are in full leaf - a little later in a couple of other scenes there are no leaves on the trees - Arthur is back with the dark green Jag , although he tells Freddie he also has a grey one - Freddie was a good menacing villain - especially being driven around in a brand new S-Class Merc - The shot of the Merc pulling up to dump Arthur out onto the road looked as though it had been "speeded up" - they had probably been instructed by Mercedes that it couldn't be used for any stunt driving !! - The piece with the jackets was a good comedy element - especially Chisholm spotting Mickey wearing one & putting two and two together Yes,that Merc S Class,especially if it was a 560 was serious money back then,closer to a Rolls in money than a Jag!......
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Post by rjc77 on May 27, 2017 20:04:10 GMT
Great line from Chisholm to Arthur "You've got more rabbit than Watership Down". This is a superb line, and one that I try to adopt in everyday conversation, not that anyone but me gets it. Chas'n'Dave of course used the alternative 'Sainsburys' in their tune, also in 1981 but later in November. Sorry to be pedantic, but I thought the single 'Rabbit' by Chas 'n' Dave featuring said line was actually released in very early 1981 (or possibly even in very late 1980). RJC.
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Post by jno on May 28, 2017 2:48:27 GMT
Yep, you're right, November 1980. Interesting point that gra966 makes about the trees above. Not spotted that.
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Post by chopper on May 29, 2017 8:02:54 GMT
Yes,I thought they were very early 80's - before they started singing Spurs Cup Final songs........š·
"ain't no pleasing you" remains easily their best track.
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Post by felixdeburgh on Jun 8, 2017 5:32:51 GMT
I like this one - some great lines for Arthur such as the way he says, "Do you think there could be an earner in it?" to Terry after he's spent a while trying to persuade him to have nothing to do with it.
"This is a matter that needs to be treated with the utmost circumcision" to Oates
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"Grands I could've got. For Micky of course".
Great stuff.
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Post by pr1 on Sept 3, 2017 17:33:27 GMT
Another strong Series Three episode. Watching this for the second time I won't repeat my previous comments but they haven't changed. The scenes with Chisholm and Jones are fun.
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Post by Celvin on Sept 4, 2017 7:24:40 GMT
Terry meets Debbie whilst mini cabbing in Series One but in this he knows Micky of old and Debbie is Micky's ex. Just watched again and they do explain that they both knew Micky at different times. Mind you Arthur and Terry seem to know everyone
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Post by thewoodster on Feb 20, 2018 19:16:32 GMT
Terry knowing Debbie as well as Mickey knowing Debbie. Also Terry and Mickey knowing each other.sounds like it was set for disaster from the off.
I enjoyed this and could watch every day..more rabbit than water ship down..comedy writing excellence.
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Post by westldner on Apr 21, 2018 7:41:17 GMT
I thought Micky's escape was funny. I was like "What was going on there?" until I realized what was going on. I agree that the entire episode was funny. A bit let down towards the end but with the jackets taking the rest of the show. I thought that was great.
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